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Comment "All" high schools are not notable, the policy is to err on the side of keep with High Schools. With grade schools the assumption is "not notable" without a very good reason. Fee Fi Foe Fum03:22, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Fosnez, and Fee Fi Foe Fum, there have been repeated failed attempts to build consensus on a school notability guideline, but there isn't one. It is best to cite WP:OUTCOMES that high schools are generally accepted as notable. It is probably correct to say that practice is to err on the side of keep, but notability is at best a guideline, not a policy. --Dhartung | Talk08:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - needs a good rewrite. Though a public school isn't a subject of advertising, it still reads like one, in the lines "available programs include". Zchris87v —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 06:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but rewrite to eliminate the schoolcruft (e.g. school song lyrics). Why anyone thinks that's encyclopedic is beyond me. At least it doesn't have a mission statement. --Dhartung | Talk08:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Relegate from wikipedia until homework is done No. Claim. To. Notability. What. So. Ever. (And. A. Comment: What is it with schools and wikipedia? Generally, corporations, websites, people have the burden of proof to establish their notoriety. Not so with schools: here it seems the other way around, a school has to be proven so small and insignificant as not to be included in wikipedia. I think this is the result of Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias, the fact that a disproportionate fraction of wikipedia editors are high school pupils. By not having the same standards for schools as for other things, it leads to an slackening in other areas: "Hey, if Bev High has an article, surely the Peach-Pit should have one too, since we spend even more time there than at school?" As far as I understand, this is not how it should be, at least if we go by the spirit shown in Wikipedia:Schools/March 2007) --Victor falk11:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My understanding as to why schools are different is that if we encourage the students of those schools to expand their articles, we are training up an entire generation of editors. Fosnez12:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As the nominator I apologize for not knowing the appropriate policy as regards to schools, I would withdraw the nom but I don't think thats how it works. I have to say that the policy that all schools are notable is totally asinine in my opinion. While it may encourage the youth to participate, it leads to a lot of sub-par crufty unsourced articles on non-notable topics in the main namespace. Man It's So Loud In Here16:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For what it's worth, I never heard of that reasoning, that it encourages youth to edit, for the reason High Schools are notable. The most common arguement I've heard was more to the fact that a high school is a significant institution within a community effecting large numbers of residents, therefore being notable. That may not be articulated as well as others, but that's the concept that leads me to support keeping.--Cube lurker16:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is another non notable high school that will likely stay and will probably not be improved significantly. More time will be spent on this Afd than will go into the article. --Stormbay20:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is a double standard that makes school articles notable when the equivalent quality of article about a coffee shop that is an institution in a community and affects large numbers of people would never make it past speedy. We need more educators commenting on the high school Afds to give their take on what makes a school notable. In my opinion, it takes more than its existence to reach notability. --Stormbay03:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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