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As discussed in talk page, the majority of those mentioned here are rumors and unable to be confirmed, particularly with the nature of all information regarding North Korea. Examples include Kim Chol, Jang Song-thaek (whose execution was confirmed, but for which sources dispute whether it could be considered a purge), Jon Yong-jin for whom sources state "allegedly executed," Ri Yong-ho (diplomat) was also "likely executed," etc etc. As well, many of these references link back to anonymous sources from Chojoongdong, sources which have been known to get things wrong in the past and I don't think its helpful to have an article on "List of officials allegedly purged and executed by Kim Jong-un." Pinging @KTo288, Jack Upland, and Nathan868: who have participated before. Freedom4U (talk) 10:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
one accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources. And, the topic of people executed on the order of Kim Jong-un has been discussed as a set by multiple independent reliable sources. These include USA Today, Radio Free Asia, CNN, and this analysis of purges of high-ranking officials in North Korea. If there are issues with content, WP:DEL-CONTENT notes that
If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page, and I think the answer here is to simply improve the page's quality rather than deleting it. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:46, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
A high-ranking army official in North Korea wasreportedly
executed by a firing squad earlier this year for drinking alcohol during the 100-day mourning period following the death of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il,according to South Korean media. and
The Telegraph UK, however, citedan unnamed South Korean media source
as saying that Kim Chol was "forced to stand on a spot that had been zeroed in for a mortar round and 'obliterated.'" North Korea's new leader Kim Jong-un allegedly ordered to leave "no trace of him behind, down to his hair."and Some media outlets have questioned the report of Kim Chol's death.
Commenting on the case, an analyst told Foreign Policy that there have been earlier reports of officers who were rumored to have been killed resurfacing later.The article reflects this information, using the words 'allegedly' and 'unconfirmed if dead'.
Those that have fallen from favour include Ri Yong-ho, the head of the army and Ri Kwang-gon, the governor of the North Korean central bank.While the Ri Kwang-won doesn't have his own article, Ri Yong-hol does, in which the sources all converge on this source [3] which states
The South Korean government is investigatingunconfirmed intelligence reports
that a gun battle, leaving between 20 and 30 soldiers dead, broke out when the North Korean regime removed army chief Ri Yong-ho from office.
The Yomiuricited a source that claimed
Ri Ryong-ha, the first deputy director of the administrative department of North Korea’s ruling Workers’ Party, and Jang Su-gil, a deputy director of the department, were executed because they did not immediately follow an order by Kim to hand over their control of a profitable business to the military.
Among thoseallegedly
executed were Jon Yong-jin, Jang's brother-in-law and the country's ambassador to Cuba, and Jang Yong-chol, Jang's nephew and ambassador to Malaysia,the anonymous sources said.
O Sang-hon, a deputy minister at the Ministry of Public Security was "executed by flame-thrower,"a source told South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper. and [7] which states
O Sang-hon, a deputy minister at the Ministry of Public Security, was "executed by flamethrower,"the source said.
the report carried by Yomiuri Shimbunclaimed
that the list of 16 of Jang’s closest associates included high-ranking cadres Ri Ryong Ha and Jang Su Gil,who are said to have been
executed in November, and Party Central Committee officials Pak Chun Hong and Ryang Chong Song...The report has not been independently verified.
South Korea's government says it ismonitoring reports
that North Korea's vice-premier Choe Yong-gon was killed in May on the orders of Kim Jong-un. Mr Choe was executed after he "expressed discomfort against the young leader's forestation policy", South Korea's Yonhap news agency reports.The link to the Yonhap report is dead, but there is this source in his article [10] which states
Yet the purge and execution of an official like Choe doesn’t strain credulity, either, even if it deserves to be filed under “unconfirmed” for now.
The conservative daily, the JoongAng Ilbo, reported on Tuesday that Hwang Min, a former agriculture minister, and Ri Yong-jin, a senior official at the education ministry, were executed by anti-aircraft gun at a military academy in Pyongyang earlier this month. Hwang wasreportedly
killed for making policy proposals that were seen as a direct threat to Kim’s leadership.However, this is contradicted by this report [12] in The Diplomat which states
In keeping with the usual pattern of unverifiable reports about the regime from South Korean media and intelligence services, the newspaper cited a single anonymous source for its claim...On Thursday, the JoongAng Ilbo reported that the ministry’s statement, pegging Kim as the only victim of the latest execution, had been made as a correction of its earlier reporting, which was erroneous...The JoongAng report actually misidentifies Hwang Min as being replaced in June at the Supreme People’s Assembly as agriculture minister.
Former North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong-hoappears to have
been executed last year, a Japanese newspaper reported Wednesday. Riseems to have been
executed around between the summer and fall of last year, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported,citing unnamed multiple sources. This information is uncertainty is reflected in his article.
they are not considered generally reliable on topics concerning North Korea: they are considered to be WP:GREL WP:NEWSORGs. I don't see why North Korea is special here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:04, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
There is a consensus that this source, as well as all other sources reporting on North Korea, is generally unreliable. However, due to a paucity of readily accessible information on North Korea, as well as a perception that Daily NK is not more unreliable than other sources on the topic, it can be used as a source, albeit with great caution.:3 F4U (they/it) 10:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)