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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 07:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't appear to pass WP:NCORP, only local coverage or related to Rockstar. Maybe redirect to List of video games published by Rockstar Games? IgelRM (talk) 15:08, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Lots of repackaged press releases and passing mentions, but I don't see any significant coverage. Donald Albury 17:32, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition § Development The issues with the remasters when it released in November 2021 made them known as people wanted to know who was in charge of the kerfuffle. [1] Their name change in 2020 had to be in anticipation of the remasters because Grove Street is a reference to GTA: San Andreas. – The Grid (talk) 14:27, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Per WP:XY, this is not a good redirect target as the company is known for several games, including multiple Ark: Survival Evolved games. Grove Street is a reference to GTA: San Andreas is false; the name is explained in the article. IceWelder [✉] 15:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the info, I thought for sure it was because of GTA but surprised it's a Gainesville (and most likely University of Florida) moniker. I rescind my vote. – The Grid (talk) 16:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. If a game developer has its output assessed and judged by independent in-depth reviewers, then it constitutes significant coverage of what the company does, i.e. of the company. And I believe that has happened in the case of Grove Street Games. Geschichte (talk) 14:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- See WP:NOTINHERITED. Note that the article currently doesn't mention reception of the ported game versions. IgelRM (talk) 15:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete None of the available sources meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing the notability of the company itself. Ideally, a good redirect candidate should be identified but in the absence of an agreement, deletion is the only remaining option. HighKing++ 14:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I'd agree with Geschichte here except it seems that almost all of their games are ports, so the list of games they've developed is a bit misleading for notability purposes. (ie, the game itself is notable, but is the port of the game notable?). -- asilvering (talk) 00:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see why not, especially if the company is known for porting video games. From doing a search, three examples: Nixxes Software, Bluepoint Games, and HexaDrive. – The Grid (talk) 19:22, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- If the company is known for porting video games, such that there is extensive secondary coverage of its ports of those video games, yes, I would agree that we should have an article on it. -- asilvering (talk) 19:49, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Just to be technical, Bluepoint also developed the Shadow of the Colossus remake. But see WP:WHATABOUT. HexaDrive doesn't appear notable, someone could nominate it. IgelRM (talk) 01:41, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Also, consider the appropriateness of a Redirect to List of video games published by Rockstar Games (where the subject is mentioned) as suggested by the nominator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding the redirect: I don't think that's terribly helpful. That article will show up in a search, if someone looks for "Gove Street Games". But I think someone who gets directly linked to that article, having expected an article on Gove Street Games, will be very confused. I'd !vote for deletion of it if it were at RFD on WP:ASTONISH grounds. -- asilvering (talk) 03:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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