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The result was speedily deleted and protected by Shell Kinney. Non-admin closure. Charlene 22:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrus Robinson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

This was JUST deleted. It still a bio of a non-notable individual, all of the refs are to original work (Test and Evaluations through the government) that hardly meet notability. Also probably COI (new author, same content, possible sock).  superβεεcat  19:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orignal AfD - resulted in speedy

• Speedy Delete - as a repost, and so added. Jauerback 19:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• The Airman featured in this article is, in fact, notable in the field of digital forensics. The "original work" are items that SrA Robinson contributed to the field of digital forensics. Government sources are allowed to be cited as references. The references are not self-published. Further, not all items are Test and Evaluations. There are several study/white papers referenced as well as links to references showing SrA Robinson's selection for enlisted commissioning programs (only 29% selection rate for the year 2007). Also, there are references to outside biographical sources and to condirm SrA Robinson briefing at the Annual DoD Cyber Crime Conference, a conference with over 700 attendees. While SrA Robinson may not be an international superstar, he is certainly a key (and notable) figure in the field of digital forensics and the United States Air Force. Further, the original article that was deleted did, in fact, fail to meet notability requirements. That article, posted by Cyrus Robinson himself, was done so at my request because I did not yet have a wikipedia account, and it was poorly written. After superbeecat's original complaint, I created an article myself and in my own interest. superbeecat is implying that Cyrus has a fake "sock" account set up to create this article. Cyrus' IP address is in the Reston, Va-Washington, DC area. I am posting from an IP address outside of Wichita, KS. superbeecat is making false allegations concerning this article, and seems to have a personal grudge with this article. Following the "good faith" and "edit boldly" policies set forth by Wikipedia, I argue that for the general interest of the digital forensic and United States military communities, this article should remain listed. Please undelete this article.Imnotfamous 19:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All the references (except the last one, the student list) are marked as "available to US governmental agencies and law enforcement request only". Contrary to your assumption, such internal documents are not eligible for citing them as references on Wikipedia - only published sources are. Regards, High on a tree 21:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete as User:Imnotfamous has blanked the page. So tagged. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 20:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• I apologize for the blank page. That was unintentional and has been corrected.Imnotfamous 20:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• speedy delete just accept it and move on.Merkinsmum 20:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Do not delete Merkinsmum did not provide any rebuttal to the arguement listed above or rational for his call for deletion.Afcyrus
• Delete. Despite the tome written above, Cyrus Robinson is simply not notable per WP:NOTE or WP:BIO. --Charlene 21:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note to Admin - page was speedy deleted, then completely re-created before this page could be changed. --Charlene 21:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• As a Computer Science student studying at Louisiana State University, I can attest the article posted should be accepted and reinstated. SrA Robinson is not a "non-notable individual" as the original poster states. Rather, the work he has done in the field of digital forensics, as well as the sources used are indeed Government sources. The individual mentioned by this article is sincere, and the account used to post the article is not just another fake spam or "sock" account. The article should remain posted, as it references valuable and pertinent information in the digial forensics domain.spartas 21:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• *do not delete Please specify what sections of WP:NOTE or WP:BIO were not met. I request that you please tell me where notability requirements have not been met.

WP:BIO and WP:N say that if ANY of the following have been met, the individual is notable. MOST have been met.

The person has been the subject of published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject. (TRUE - http://dc3.mil/dcci/contact.htm)

The person has been the subject of a credible independent biography. (TRUE - http://www.technologyforums.com/7CC/biographies_2.asp#CyrusRobinson source)

The person has received significant recognized awards or honors. (TRUE - http://www.afoats.af.mil/AFROTC/documents/ECP_PostSelectionDatabase.xls)

The person has demonstrable wide name recognition (TRUE - briefed at DoD Conference - http://www.technologyforums.com/7CC/Descriptions.asp#ImagingHardDrivesWithBadSectors)

The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field. (Arguable)

Commercial endorsements of demonstrably notable products (Arguable)Afcyrus 21:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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