The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. The discussion addressed whether the topic was important/significant enough, an issue that may be addressed through CSD A7. There was little to no discussion on whether enough reliable source material exists for the topic to meet general notability guidelines and for the article to meet Wikipedia:Verifiability. The delete reasoning was weak such that the consensus could not be delete per policy. -- Jreferee t/c 16:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bonny Jain (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Non-notable academic competitor and high school kid. I found this article on a request for comment; I thought it was so ridiculous that I went ahead and put it here. Well, he did get a NG article for winning a geography bee, but I still don't think he's notable. Sorry if that's poor etiquette. Cap'n Walker 19:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goodness, I seem to have stirred the pot! From my User Page: "You are absolutely ridiculous! The only reason you want Bonny Jain's page deleted is because you've never even had a chance to win a National contest. " Sorry, there are lots of national contests for youngsters every year, and plenty of winners. They don't all merit articles. Cap'n Walker 15:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - the event he won is notable, and its a unique achievement, seeing as though there is only 1 national winner per year (and its no cakewalk to win). The article can use a little bit of copy editing to avoid the resume feel. Perhaps this is walking down a dangerous path ending in stub articles for all the winners, most of whom are still in their teens and deserve their privacy, but as far as strict wiki-lawyering goes, this meets the guidelines. CosmicPenguin (Talk) 22:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Cosmic Penguin notes that this event is notable. I agree, and the event should have an article. Cosmic Penguin notes that "winning the event is a unique achievement, seeing as though there is only one national winner per year" I think this statement is a contradiction. Unique implies a singular achievement, yet there are many people who can claim winning this event. Does every middle schooler/high schooler who wins a national debate, cheerleading, chess, tennis, golf, poetry slam, martial arts, etc, etc, etc title deserve to be the subject of an article? I think the dangerous slope here is starting to decide which event of this nature qualifies the winner for an article .... Does the National Geographic Bee or National Spelling Bee somehow confer special notability over a national martial arts champion (for example)? LonelyBeacon 22:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This article does not have any long-term notability. The person is already listed in the article on the contest. That is sufficient. Silverchemist 15:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep National Geography Bee Champion is a notable achievement. National spelling bee champ qualifying for permanent notability is a precedent for this. Horrorshowj 06:08, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Non-notable, the main article mentions him, that is enough, but if this article is deleted so must Susannah Batko-Yovino and Andrew Wojtanik. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.162.158 (talk) 16:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Delete This person is known for one and only one accomplishment: that of being an academic competitor at the elementary school level. This is non-notable for the exact same reason a high school quarterback setting a national passing record is non-notable. Further, the article has essentially been edited only by its creator (subject?), vandals, and those reverting vandalism. I believe that Wikipedia policy speaks to this. If this means that other articles in a similar vein must be deleted, then so be it. LonelyBeacon 22:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Delete He's a great kid, but not worthy of an article in any encyclopedia, even Wikipedia. The fact is, his NGB championship happened as a 13-year-old. To whomever agrees with the post on Cap'n Walker's talk page, all I have to say is : Yes, I have won a national championship. And I don't deserve an article either. // 15 years from now, when Bonny invents a new type of cheese or discovers the ninth planet in our solar system, this article should be reinstated, mentioning the NGB championship. But until then, I just don't think he's "notable" by Wiki standards. // And the same goes for Andrew and Susannah, though I would be interested to find out the story behind this Calvin McCarter kid who won it as a 5th-grader.... Cornfused00 07:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above, but also it violates WP:NEWS and WP:BLP. Bearian 15:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.