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Question answered. Please continue follow-up discussions elsewhere. Sandstein 16:12, 2 January 2020 (UTC) |
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Does the following scenario presents a T-ban violation?
Your opinion? François Robere (talk) 15:56, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
@Sandstein, I was the one recently greeting a few new users to Wikipedia. François Robere is indicating my welcome messages in his inquiry. GizzyCatBella🍁 16:04, 2 January 2020 (UTC) |
Sandstein, As per our previous discussion in Nov 2019, I have recreated the page with updated details. Please take a look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groww Ashok Bhat 21:40, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein, A quick question regarding your close at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (2nd nomination). The last two sentences, They also allege BLP problems, but these seem to be largely an issue of the title accusing the man concerned of attempted assassination, of which he was not in fact convicted. This can be remedied by renaming the article, and deletion is not required to resolve this problem.
are being interpreted as establishing a consensus that the article should be moved or renamed. Is this an accurate reflection of your close? Or should a consensus on this point be established through normal means (WP:RM, etc)? Thanks in advance for any reply. - Ryk72 talk 23:33, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
You banned me 9 months ago from creating WP:AE appeals or commenting at them.[9]
I have to admit, that I am still not happy with that decision, as it ignored the hounding as well as the violation of my user talkpage, even if those were only indirectly related to WP:ARBPIA, and in addition in my opinion was made without proper discussion.
However that may be, nine months have passed, and maybe it is time to review that decision.
As you wrote in the ban notification, one of the options of appeal is to write you on your talkpage, and it is my custom to indeed contact the sanctioning admin in first instance, as a matter of courtesy, rather than go to the other venues mentioned at Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Discretionary_sanctions#Appeals_and_modifications.
I would like to ask you to consider at this time to either rescind the sanction completely, or change it to creating WP:AE appeals only but allowing me to comment at them.
Thank you for your consideration. Debresser (talk) 15:21, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
New to Wiki so please bear with me. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Alex_Tsimerman was just deleted and I'm confused as to why since nobody was talking about how notability was not reached. My history around the subject was stated on the page along with my understanding of how notability was established. Could you please let me know how the general guidelines were not met? I feel like SounderBruce was abusing his powers to attack Alex with no clear objection to why the news articles, government links and independent thoughts of others did not meet the wiki rules? Thanks for looking at this again! 70.181.151.175 (talk) 04:02, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
It is kinda funny that when you revert an editor adding unsourced content (with citations that don't verify the content) you can issue them with a warning about edit-warring when they revert back and no one bats an eyelid, but when I do the same I get threatened with a block for edit-warring if I don't self-revert and subject myself to two months (and counting) of talk page abuse.[10] More admins willing to look at sources and soberly assess who is engaged in bad-faith edit-warring and who is going well beyond the bounds of reason in attempting to engage in talk-page discussion (rather than what happened there, which AFAICT was an involved admin with a bone to pick not looking at the context so much as the usernames of the editors involved) is what this project really needs. Your work on the Otokonoko (cross-dressing) article and at RSN is most appreciated. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:16, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I just became aware that the close was challenged. You overturned it saying Andrew’s close was inappropriate - what did I miss? What was inappropriate when the article clearly meets N:GEOLAND?? Atsme Talk 📧 16:14, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I hadn't seen you close the latest AfD debate on the articles for the initialed cricketers I created. It still frustrates me that there are some of these remaining. Bobo. 17:24, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I'm disappointed by the result, but I agree with your close as the proper summary of what little community input there was. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello admin, you deleted the article K. Narayanan (film editor) created by me without mention any reason here. Kindly explain, why the article doesn't meet criteria for WP:Notability (people) and if you can do this, it will be very helpful to me for further biographical articles.Kaitha Poo Manam (talk) 08:49, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
One thing also, I think, how many participants stand for 'delete' or 'keep' is not a criteria to take a decision in a deletion discussion. Wikipedia has its own policies. In the case of a deletion discussion, after the discussion, an admin should be take decision with Wikipedia's policies and, not with majority of participants. The reasons which are given here by the participated editors in the discussion mainly point out in 2 things that about the award merit and merit of sources.
Then, my humbly doubts are:
I expect your valuable information with thanks.Kaitha Poo Manam (talk) 11:05, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
Incomplete policy subjects, the participant's views are no more relevant; the written policies are only relevant in Wikipedia. the participants should be convinced themselves with written Wikipedia policies. If take a decision only depended with participant's views in an AfD, it is caused to the frailer of Wikipedia policies. For example: suppose, if major participants, except one, supported and wanted to keep the article (K. Narayanan (film editor)) and one participant not supported and wanted to delete it, what decision will you take? Can I expect, according to your statement, 'the other one who argued for deletion has failed to convince everybody else of his view, and I'm not going to overrule all other AfD participants, who concluded that the sources are sufficient. So, the result is kept.'?
And, further matter is, as you stated above, if I won to convince everybody else with my view, the result may changed? If the answer is yes, you depend or believe in 'majority opinion' of the participants in AfD. But, I believe in Wikipedia policies. In my best knowledge, An admin can say in an AfD deletion discussion that, what is relevant or not followed with Wikipedia policies. In an AfD deletion discussion, the participants are not judges and they are just helpers like lawyers to find out or to remind the proper guidelines of Wikipedia to the admins. Here, the admin who closed the discussion is the responsible person like a judge and all responsibility about the decision of AfD to the admin, not to the participants.Kaitha Poo Manam (talk) 01:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Is the new article Jass Manak (singer) substantially different from Jass Manak, which was re-deleted (G4) and salted in March? Thanks. Freezer Bernie (talk) 17:33, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein,
I've seen you've created some BLP on Andrea Štaka a Swiss Film Director.
I'm new to Wikipedia and have tried a draft on a Swiss filmmaker with lots of references in German language... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ogcgn/sandbox
Now I'm looking for help with the next steps...
Can I just submit it for review or do I need to ask the help desk first to optimise or correct things?
Is there a way to find a film enthusiast, who may also assess German references?
Thanks a lot in advance! Olaf Ogcgn (talk) 18:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein, you closed the AfD discussion on Peppermint Park today, and nine hours later, it was reopened for a second nomination by User:TenPoundHammer, who wrote that the "last AFD was open for three weeks with zero participation." As one of the people that participated in that discussion, I feel like that's unfair. I'm fairly new to deletion discussions, so this may be something that happens frequently, but I want to ask if you have any thoughts about your close being overturned so quickly. -- Toughpigs (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hello admin, you deleted the article King Cid, Toks Asher Young, Blessing Williams created by me without mention any reason in the deletion discussion. Kindly explain, why the article doesn't meet criteria for WP:Notability (people) and if you can do this, it will be very helpful to me for further biographical articles.(Techwritar (talk) 13:05, 13 January 2020 (UTC))
I think, the reasons which are given in the deletion discussion by the participated editors are not a final thing or not to be the main reason/reasons (Judgement) in a deletion discussion. The participants share only their knowledge/thoughts/arguments in such discussions. The final or a conclusion reason/reasons should be taken by the admin who closed a deletion discussion and if mind, it should be indicated in the discussion result note. One thing also, I think, how many participants stand for 'delete' or 'keep' is not a criteria to take a decision in a deletion discussion. Wikipedia has its own policies. In the case of a deletion discussion, after the discussion, an admin should be take decision with Wikipedia's policies and, not with majority of participants.(Techwritar (talk) 14:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC))
I'm talking Techwritar (talk) 15:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
I'm talking about the articles I created, I only copied his write up because of after I read all the complaints on your talk page, I discovered we both have similar complaint. So can you kindly answer my question Techwritar (talk) 16:00, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
What you're insinuating is that the reason you gave him is what you're also giving me Techwritar (talk) 18:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Techwritar (talk) 19:40, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps best to revoke their talk page access too? Theroadislong (talk) 22:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Toks Asher Young. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Techwritar (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of King Cid. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Techwritar (talk) 17:22, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Blessing Williams. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Techwritar (talk) 17:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Can you please restore the article P. K. Parakkadavu. We have a clear consensus here on AFD to keep the article. Thank you...- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
I believe Jeff Burningham page was deleted in error. He meets the criteria for notability outside of his political candidacy. He was winner of the Ernst and young Entrepreneur of the Year award. He has been featured for his entrepreneurial success in major publications including Deseret News, Forbes, Tech Crunch, and Entrepreneur. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael.carl22 (talk • contribs) 16:54, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Dear admin, I want to submit a deletion review for the article K. Narayanan (film editor) and what can I do for it? Please, tell me its procedure. And, I was too busy in past 4 days; but, the conversation of K. Narayanan (film editor) was shifted from here. Kaitha Poo Manam (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
The paragraph on meat was unsourced, but it is not a speculation. It is a well thought observation. Any one can consider thinking about it. There are many other portions in Wikipedia articles, that are unsourced but are still allowed to remain, so how is that? Thanks. Polytope4D (talk) 12:53, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Three keep !votes, one undecided comment and no support at all for the nomination. Could you please explain why you closed it as delete. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:23, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
It's a bit rude of you to just suggest that editors are "just" making keep votes and not explaining themselves - you should assume that editors are acting in good faith and with Wikipedia policy in mind when they add comments. I added a suggestion for keep because I think it does meet the criteria for Wikipedia lists. Bookscale (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
Are mainstream newspapers ok or not for Poland WWII tppocs? Please see [11] referring to [12]. In light of the fact that I explicitly noted and asked about your AE ruling at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism_in_Poland#Clarification_request:_Antisemitism_in_Poland_(2)_(January_2020).where I even named that newspaper in particular, but I am unsure if that request for clarification addressed the at all as it seems the arbs did not issue any clarification whatsoever. Your relevant ruling was wj[13] |(B.1) Rzeczpospolita (newspaper) is, judging from its article, a leading mainstream Polish newspaper and therefore a "reputable institution" in the sense of the remedy. Using it as a source does not violate the remedy.. Do you still uphold that? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:35, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
With regard to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Methodist Churches in Leicester, I ask that your reconsider your closure on Jan 18, which I believe is premature. Indeed NO Wikipedia:Consensus has been reached and the closing appears focused on a narrow point of the discussion. There have been various suggestions offered as preferred alternatives to deletion, including merging, partially merging, dratifying that are not addressed in the closer's statement, including an extensive one made the day before on Jan 17. Furthermore, it does not take in consideration two very similar AfDs, which are mentioned: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Congregational Churches in Leicester and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Baptist churches in Leicester, which have bearing here. Would you kindly Wikipedia:RELIST? Taking into account the fact WP:LIST that there no present consensus for how to assess the notability of more complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y") or what other criteria may justify the notability of stand-alone lists, the discussion at this particular AfD is not complete. In good faith, it would seem that a AfD of such complexity needs more time for more voices and ideas to be heard as a courtesy for the benefit of Wikipedia. Thank-you.Djflem (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
With regard to Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 January 22: I had fully intended to notify you once it was sorted, as there appears to be some problem with the template.Djflem (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Could you maybe check and give the solution for this new article: "Draft:Danexit", regarding "Citation needed", "who?, "when?", "clarification needed" and "which?"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Danexit Wname1 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2020 (UTC). Thanks for answer.
There was an informal allegation that I am your sock by Bookscale. It was later self-reverted here and then here, so I presume that nothing needs to be done now but you should be aware. — MarkH21talk 21:02, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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