Issues with article[edit]


  • The past 40 years are not tough to get, you can incorporate all of the references I currently have at AWAK as a starting point. The article you found is very nice. Please see the guidelines set forth at WP:CRYSTAL regarding unreleased products. If, as you claim, the AWAK term is the explicit name of the product, then, currently, it would also fail the criteria set forth in WP:PRODUCT. At this point, the only way I can see this future product included in the wiki is if it were to be merged with a larger context article and given a much briefer discussion as set forth in WP:WEIGHT. Chaldor (talk) 19:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems you completely ignored the second half of what I said in my last reply. I feel that there is an important concept that you are misunderstanding (or willfully choosing to ignore). You are stating that AWAK is the name of the specific device created by the UCLA researchers. If this is the case, then this article is subject to the policy set forth at WP:PRODUCT. According to that policy, you will also see that this article must then be subject to WP:CORP. Based on those policies, it is apparent to me, and hopefully to you as well, that there are problems with this article's inclusion into wikipedia. The first is that both the corporation and the device do not pass the notability criteria. I know you may feel that the device is wonderful and fabulous, but there just hasn't been enough external coverage about this product to warrant its own article. Further, since this device does not exist, it is also subject to the WP:FUTURE policy. This policy basically states that, with a few exceptions, anything that doesn't exist yet should not be included in the wiki.
You can see then, given its limited notability, and the fact that it is an unreleased product, there is no strong arguement for it to have its own article. However, given its potential, I think it does merit at least a mention under a broader, and more encompassing article that does pass the notability criteria. I am working on consolidating AWAK and Wearable kidney into Artificial kidney so that there can be one, well-referenced article that discusses all the past and near-future attempts at creating a next-generation dialysis system. If you are insistent that there needs to be an article dedicated to AWAK, then I might suggest doing it on http://future.wikia.com Discussions of future/speculated products are acceptable there. Chaldor (talk) 05:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]