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Again, welcome! RandomAct^{(talk to me)} 17:48, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is what was so important that it couldn't be removed, and couldn't be templated:

Business

The main sources of employment in the area are tourism & hospitality, construction and agriculture.

The town has thirteen pubs and five hairdresser/barber's shop. Other businesses are, amongst others, five supermarkets, a hostel, a hardware shop, a bank, a post office, a bridal shop, a bookmaker's office, two pizzerias/take-aways, a clothes shop, a surf shop, a salon, and two barber shops. There are two pharmacies and several restaurants in the town.

There are two large hotels in the vicinity, the Armada Hotel and The Bellbridge House Hotel. There are numerous B&Bs in Milltown Malbay and its surrounding area.

An expansive network of articles tended by a few WP:SPAs. [1] 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

plugs new B0b board. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, I'm trying to get a block on another sock of Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs). Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Per the IP talk page [2], is it possible to contact the library? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:42, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Materialscientist just placed the block. I'm chatting online with a librarian. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Do you keep a list of IPs? Drmies (talk) 21:26, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • First, my thanks to you and Materialscientist. I don't but I can go back through edit histories and find some. I believe other IPs came from Baltimore libraries as well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here's one, 169.156.21.123 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • And another 169.156.21.120 (talk · contribs). These are the most recent. There are dozens going back years, as I recall. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • OK, there isn't really anything that they can do, I suppose; I mean they can claim that patron is abusing the system or whatever. I suggested that they let their IT department and others know, so that other patrons can be informed if they're unable to edit, and so that their system administrators don't think there's something wrong on their end.

      I don't think Duane has any actual accounts, at least not that I saw; we don't have an SPI, do we, where we could keep a file of IPs? Drmies (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • 169.156.21.97 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think an SPI was ever opened. Thanks for calling them--I was tempted t leave a note right on the IP talk page, but your call was a better pathway. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • 169.156.21.99 (talk · contribs) 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • 169.156.21.86 (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • 169.156.21.80 (talk · contribs). A mother lode is the edit history for Timeline of Baltimore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I just placed a block on 169.156.0.0/19 . I looked at over a thousand edits; they're all his. Drmies (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • If you don't have a problem with it, I'll go through some of [3] this and revert. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:49, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Go for it. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • Cheezus. To carry on years after a block, having learned nothing from the block, other than to become more intransigent. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:03, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thanks for your vigilance in dealing with that IP vandal and removing their trash from my talk page! Aoi (青い) (talk) 05:44, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Likewise, Aoi. Much appreciated, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes I wish you would get an account so you could have the tools to do things easier but at the same time I respect that you choose not to. Best always S0091 (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, S0091. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for reverting you on Social justice, looks like I was looking at the wrong revision. -- LuK3 (Talk) 14:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Quite alright. Thank you for the note, and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:18, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh. Anyone want to take a crack at that? Melcous or Drmies? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another bio being turned into a sprawling and unsourced press release, a personal scrapbook. I've started a thread at BLP noticeboard. More eyes appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming you don't want to create an account since you're still editing with an IP (correct me if I'm wrong), so I thought you might like to join m:Association_of_Good_Faith_Wikipedians_Who_Remain_Unregistered_on_Principle. Have a good day and keep up the good work! Clovermoss (talk) 23:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• That's funny, Clovermoss. I've told my story multiple times in the past: Have a registered account, contributed greatly in my area of knowledge. Began editing anonymously for an extra degree of separation from my Wiki biography, so as not to be identified. Several admins know who I am. Decided I like being an IP; it bothers vandals and registered accounts who think a name confers legitimacy. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, thank you for all your contributions! I wish I could use the thank button for IPs, but unfortunately that feature no longer works. I think it's the edits that matter (not whether or not they come from a registered or unregistered account). I hope to see you around in the future since you do such good work. :) Clovermoss (talk) 23:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you very much. Glad you're here, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:15, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63,

Thank you very much for the report. This is an interesting case; please let me know on my talk page if the behavior continues after the week.

Best regards,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, ToBeFree. There are so many different accounts that do that, in that genre, that I sometimes wonder if it's just three people using an infinite number of accounts. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:22, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • In this very specific case, it does seem to be one single person doing this since 2018, which would make me consider a month(s)-long block if the week doesn't suffice. But yes, it's a common issue, and it's often hard to deal with, both from editorial and technical standpoints. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FYI my response here. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Oshwah. Much appreciated. As I noted before, they game the system by laying low for a week or so following a report, then return for the same thing. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah they really do. It's crappy, because I obviously want to treat them just like any other user - and by principle, we should absolutely be doing so. Unfortunately, because of the fact that it's a "sensitive IP range" (or one that we should reasonably consider as such), I am forced to keep that in mind when making an administrative decision. I just dislike knowing the fact that they may be using that fact to their advantage intentionally, and any potential hesitation on my part to act in "borderline cases" in terms of staleness and punitive vs preventative may just be letting them get away with exactly what they're doing... :-/ ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi- I just added an entry to the talk page of the William Gazecki article, in an attempt to resolve this apparent Conflict of Interest (which, from reviewing the above, has grown into some sort of strange nightmare of cross-pollinated inter-associations that in fact have NOTHING to do with one another. Any Wiki Editors out there who are interested in this sort of thing, please review. William Gazecki 00:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Requested rev/deletion at BLP noticeboard hours ago, and ANI is locked. Oshwah or Drmies, maybe you can help: [4]. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Another load of puerile BLP violations at Terry Christian, if you're up for locking and rev deleting back a few days, Drmies. And thanks for dealing with this crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:22, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • FYI - I do have an outstanding request at RFPP for semi-protection but it's been there for a couple hours or so. S0091 (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you, S0091. I know that those requests can sit a long time, especially of a Saturday night. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Clearly folks have their priorities all wrong. Ha! :) S0091 (talk) 01:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well, yeah. I'm old enough that I don't have to apologize for not going out at night. And my partner would be quite displeased if I did so without her. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:35, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • • It's protected now. S0091 (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, sorry for the late response, Bob! I'm glad that this issue was handled quickly. Since you're an IP user, you obviously won't have access to the "email this user" function on Wikipedia. For future requests like these that should be given to admins privately, here is my email address: OshwahWikigmail.com - instead of having to post them onto Wikipedia publicly and risk the Streisand effect, please email them to me instead (if possible). I know that you have personal reasons as to why you do not use an account to edit Wikipedia, and you may also have personal reasons as to why you would refuse to use email to communicate matters like these to myself or another admin. If you do have reasons, please respond (ping me) and let me know about it so that I understand. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:00, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, Oshwah. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would appreciate more eyes on this, and the promotional accounts that just sprang up in unison. Looks like it ought to be merged. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi, I am a member of this organization and I am responsible for keeping this website up to date. I am not sure what guidelines I have violated. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudahr0519 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • • Then you haven't read the WP:COI message I sent both accounts you're using for promotional purposes. If this continues I'll ask all accounts be blocked. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, you may be good at this sort of thing. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Ad Orientem has sorted out the promo accounts. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:49, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It looked like a good candidate for a redirect to the college of engineering. But after all that, I won't quibble with deletion. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More eyes on this, please, given the recent handprints of two WP:COI accounts. If it continues I'll take it to BLP or page protection boards. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:13, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi b0b2! I saw you've reverted Richinstead a few times for (among many other issues) copyright violations. Just in case you weren't aware of it, there's a useful template to use in those cases, ((copyvio-revdel)). You put in the first and last revision IDs where the copyvio occurred and the URL where the text was copied from, and the page will get flagged for an admin to delete the offending revisions. ^creffpublic _{a creffett franchise} (talk to the boss) 20:05, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Creffett. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lord knows I tried, Creffett, but couldn't produce a working template at Somatic experiencing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Fair enough, there's a script that can generate it for you, but I forgot that you can't install scripts as an anonymous editor. I'll generate the template for the page you linked, and feel free to ping me/leave a note on my talk page in the future if you need a hand making a copyvio revdel request. creffett (talk) 22:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you very much, Creffett. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:13, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of rev/deletion warranted for content copied from the university's press releases. And lots more cleanup needed. John from Idegon, some of this might be in your wheelhouse.

Hi!

With the increased emphasis on college affordability, I think being named as the school with the best financial aid merits a place in the first few paragraphs of the Duke University article. Respectfully curious as to why you disagree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.217.221 (talk) 00:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Firstly, it's from 2015, so it's no longer terribly relevant. Secondly, similar content was already moved to the admissions section by another editor. Thirdly, it looks like you're edit warring for promotional purposes, possibly in coordination with several other accounts. So, fourthly, it behooves you--and the other accounts--to divulge your conflict of interest. Also, you may not use multiple accounts to evade sanctions for disruptive editing, nor to give the appearance of building a consensus. I've begun a discussion at WP:ANI. Please feel free to continue there, rather than here, so that other editors and administrators can engage. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have never used an account other than this one so I don't know where you're getting that from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.217.221 (talk) 02:52, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've never been sanctioned and I'm not pretending to build consensus or do anything of the sort. I edit from wherever I happen to be located at the time. I'm pretty sure that isn't prohibited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.237.226 (talk) 07:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• There are a number of problems here, not the least of which is that 137.132.217.221 (talk · contribs) wrote above that they've never used another account. Is 119.74.237.226 (talk · contribs) the same person? I suggest that the discussion be limited to the article talk page and the ANI report. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You twice removed comment from the list of Works on the Robert Lawson (Author) page. They were place there to explain why two items on the list were not valid Robert Lawson Works. I could have just removed the two works, but because they were sited many years ago in a reference and repeated in many places and over many years they are what you your in you ignorance of the topic would call a "Valid Reference". I am just trying to correct a record that has been wrong for many years. If you had read what I put in place maybe you would have understood what it was that I was saying. Because these items have long been accepted as Robert Lawson Works I thought just removing them would do little good. They would sooner or later be replaced by someone who saw them listed in one of the many faulty references both in print and on the internet. One book mentioned could easily be determined to not be illustrated by Robert Lawson by simply looking at the book. The front of the books dust jacket plainly states it is illustrated by someone else. With the other book mentioned it is a bit harder to prove that it does not exist. I left comment saying that no copyright information was found for the particular edition of the book. I am not sure how to reference such a thing. I could site the Catalog of Copyright entries from the Library of Congress, but how do you reference a entry that is not found? If you have ever tried to look up a copyright entry you would know that the record is a bit of a confused mess. Besides this I have 40 years of book collecting experience and have collected Lawson for most of that time. When you can't find a volume or even mention of a volume besides in a reference book in that time period, I think it is a pretty good indication that the book does not exist. Especially when no valid copyright information can be found for the volume. Just because something has been published in a reference, it does not make it correct. But it seems that you do not believe in correcting "Known" sources from what I have read in several places in your help and instructions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.83.82 (talk) 13:59, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Please read the guidelines I left at the talk page of your registered account. They help to explain how Wikipedia works. We don't accept WP:OR, nor commentary in article space. We do appreciate corrections. If books are wrongly included in the bibliography section, please do remove them, with an explanation in the edit summary and/or in the article's talk page. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't run everything over to a noticeboard, though the Duke University related stuff merits more attention than it's gotten thus far. So, JJMC89, Melcous or Drmies, would you have a look at this puffed bio? How much of the selected writing and speeches belongs here? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Serial Number 54129, thank you! Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:43, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The wifi went out for a few minutes out here in the sticks. So, 2601:188:180:B8E0:9587:6555:466B:361D (talk) 23:21, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More eyes on this, please. Multiple copyright violations and promotional intent. Rev/delete as necessary. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:9587:6555:466B:361D (talk) 17:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks you for your anti-vandalism edits! Bobherry Talk Edits 15:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Bobherry. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:58, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity bio, with back and forth over how much we need to know about his dating life. I want no part of the scrum, and am happy to ask others to have a look. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:57, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Would appreciate some input. Three editors have weighed in, with no luck. Ciao for the evening. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll be blunt: Drmies, Melcous or JJMC89, this has gone on way too long over poor editing. The BLP noticeboard thread is ridiculous. Help requested. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Drmies--your assessment at ANI is correct--and Melcous. What an awful waste of time for numerous editors, all for the insistence to include tabloid crap. Should have been blocked days ago. They know exactly what they're doing; I don't buy that they're new here. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:07, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for countless hours of dealing with what can sometimes be an unbearable mess – the encyclopedia and its maintenance. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you. And per the message left at your page, they don't get it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is tiresome, ToBeFree, as you're well aware. If you want to have a look at the copyvio at that article, feel free. But you may well have had enough of that for tonight. Cheers and thanks again, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:41, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Heh, I'll indeed let someone else have a look at the copyvio problem – I can't access the alleged "reference" from Germany, it seems, and the Internet Archive doesn't help. Feel free to add ((copyvio-revdel)) to the page. Perhaps I'll have a look tomorrow, but I think I'll just skip this specific page/issue. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Of course. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:45, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm – possibly. Or even probably. We'll see. :) (in subjectively 95% of the cases, a final warning doesn't help, but I'll wait to see if they are one of the five percent) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:47, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please take time to review the sources, all boxers use it. Mostly in a friendly manner, being overweight is not always an insult, apologies if the edits insulted in anyway Vestigative (talk) 04:07, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Cheezus, this is my night. As stated in my edit summary, none of these are WP:RELIABLE sources. And in many of those forum comments it is used as an insult, which runs afoul of WP:BLP guidelines. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:09, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[5]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• 1. Anything here that isn't and advertisement, and can't be cut?
• and 2. How deep do the copyright violations run?

Thanks to anyone who can help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I say cut the lot. Probably further back than I can prove due to dead links. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:40, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for weeding out the mare's nest of copyright violations, JJMC89. And thank you, Serial Number 54129, for the cutting. Cheers and best wishes, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not egregiously promotional, though owned for a long time by a likely WP:COI editor who has contributed greatly to other articles. A lot of unsourced details about programs and student life. How much, if any, ought to be clear cut? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I've been nibbling at the edges, mostly removing parenthetical observations, without wading into the meat of the original research. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• And, was this a copyvio [6]? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for your edits, when so much of an article is recently written by one person it often needs a review by a third party (or several). I hope it will be possible to improve the article without deleting two thirds of it, as happened with St Stephen's House, Oxford, in that case due to promotional and copyvio content. Based on the conversation at Talk:Corpus Christi College, Oxford in 2018, being a student at a college may not be a true COI and the same argument could be made for alumni. The ownership seems to be a matter of no other editors wishing to make substantial edits rather than the editor preventing other editors getting involved. TSventon (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point, TSventon; where there's a lack of contributions from others, one editor's long term involvement is thrown into sharper relief. Not having yet looked at the Corpus Christi discussion, COI may be interpreted broadly enough to include alumni and students, especially if the writing has veered into directory or catalogue-type territory. That doesn't mean there's overt WP:BOOSTERISM, but something a bit off neutral point of view nonetheless. Anyway, I didn't think it was blatant enough to put a COI template on the article. The problem at Wycliffe looks to be an abundance of WP:OR. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And...the editor has a very constructive history of creating and editing biographies, complete with sourcing. For the Wycliffe Hall article, that has gone by the wayside. He hasn't responded to the COI message I left. Every and any time COI has been raised with my edits, I've responded immediately. Rarely a good sign when the message is ignored. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COI doesn't specifically mention students, possibly because employees tend to cause more problems. Hopefully the editor will respond shortly, we shall see. TSventon (talk) 02:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have reread the template message you posted and I think it could be read as a request to stop editing if the editor has/ believes they have a COI which does not need a response if they don't. I have posted a specific question today and suggested that a discussion on the issues with the article might be useful. TSventon (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, TSventon. Often the COI template is received in one of three ways: fight, flight or ignore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I now have an answer to my question on my talk page. Do you want to start a discussion on the talk page about issues with the article or shall I (put it onto my to do list)? TSventon (talk) 15:05, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to initiate discussion there, though it may fall into my 'later' list as well. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, the article is on my watchlist. I think it needs some general guidance as well as edit summaries. TSventon (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More specifically, I do plan to get to it sooner, rather than later, maybe even by this evening (east coast time). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're around, Drmies. Thanks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I am! We're watching American Idol, and my daughter is giving me an education on Instagram. Turns out a lot of male human beings love making rape jokes. Anyway. Drmies (talk) 02:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you Drmies, and how awful. Look me up on Instagram. It's the only place I'm famous. And since it's virtual, it's totally meaningless. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:16, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Here's a good thing about editing as an ip, you never need to log in or out, and you'll never forget your password! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 03:35, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • True enough. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Editor's Barnstar
	This is the first time I am giving a barnstar to an anonymous user like you but I salute your contributions to Wikipedia. It is pleasant to acknowledge your efforts and that too on a leap year day February 29th is cherishing. Thank you for your valuable contributions and keep going. Abishe (talk) 15:25, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Abishe. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring to remove sourced content, twice removing subject's last name without explanation. More eyes appreciated. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:40, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies or JJMC89, the edit history of TheRoadDudeMN (talk · contribs) reminds me of that of the blocked Baltimore historian, if far less long term and egregious. Do we accept unsourced and original research content re: trail and road routes? A lot of it looks like WP:OR trivia. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Rather than responding to my message at their talk page, this is what followed [7]. Not terribly encouraging. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:16, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the detail is excessive but I am happy someone is writing up trails. Whether they're notable, that's another matter. The sourcing is poor, but the editor is brand-new, so I'm pleased they found Wikipedia as an outlet. One thing that I've done with such users who are doing things that are in principle good but in practice not yet sufficient is give them some proper secondary sources (there's this and this) and tell them what on Wikipedia we can legitimately do with those sources, what content we can verify with it. I wrote something sort of like it...I'll try to find it. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you, Drmies. I'll share this. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A minor incident, but I'd like some feedback on whether to let this go or restore the cite needed template. [8] Would inform my practice moving forward, too. Thanks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:00, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer removal for BLPs. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work to maintain neutrality at European Fund for the Balkans. JBW (talk) 15:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for your help, JBW. It still needs copyright mop up, but a user block stanches the damage. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Materialscientist for locking this. Requesting someone look at the ocean of unsourced and largely promotional content added in 2014, and weigh in on whether it ought to be removed en masse. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:21, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lower profile bringing this here than posting to ANI; perhaps an admin will lock this bio and rev/delete some of the inane defamatory edits of recent weeks. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's say this article is one of the meeting points for a proliferation of throwaway accounts--I'm guessing they're all socks of someone who's been blocked. See also Gedung Setan, Madanapalle Institute of Technology and Science and 2008–12 legislature of the Romanian Parliament, among others. It's either a disruptive farm or foreign students who don't write very well in English. Don't know how to proceed with this, so I'm asking some review by Drmies, JJMC89 or ToBeFree. I suspect there are a lot more accounts and articles involved than the few I've found thus far. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yeah, I'm putting my money on one or several high school/college students [9]; [10]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for the notification; I have now blocked the disruption-only accounts while keeping the constructive ones unblocked. Feel free to create a sock puppet investigation, but if it's really a group of students, I guess the filtering approach I've now taken might be the best way to deal with the problem. I do strongly recommend using WP:ANI for such messages, to avoid relying on specific administrators and to ensure that all possible measures are taken. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • ToBeFree, thank you. You're right, though I don't want to inundate ANI with reports, and opt to be a pain in the ass here as an alternative. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:14, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While we're at it, maybe someone can rev/delete the defamation/harassment at User talk:GreenMeansGo. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:59, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ToBeFree, thank you and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:12, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Psst. :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. If you're concerned about this BLP, you should know this. The edit you undid,[11] was removed[12] by someone claiming to be the subject[13] (quite credibly IMO). If you want to undo your edit, I won't be complaining. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 19:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I saw that they claimed to be the subject. Were they undoing their own comments? If so, I'll revert my edit, zzuuzz, or feel free to do it for me. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:17, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like my connection may be lagging with Huggle, so the vandalism I meant to revert reverted your edit and sent you a warning. I'm going to stop until I have a fix. Thank you so much! --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 04:34, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Marx01. That's why I opt to revert without the sharper technology, and have a desktop that runs on hamster power. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alas. 2601:188:180:B8E0:21D6:1091:AF1A:B4BB (talk) 09:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More eyes appreciated. Aside from the most recent edits, by an eponymous account (block, anyone, for a username that impersonates a notable individual?) virtually nothing here is sourced. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob, thanks for noticing this one - I think part of the problem is it wasn't categorized as a BLP. I did a little bit there, but I think after seeing this edifying material I'll leave it for now. I also mucked about a bit with Nikhil Chinapa. I guess everybody else is too busy worrying about COVID-19 (and I'm limiting my edits each month to try not to minimize the WMF's use of me as a statistic, so I can't do too much even if I get told not to go in to work). Anyway, thanks for the bell-ringing. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yngvadottir, I didn't catch your comments here until later in the day. Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 2601,

I just wanted to thank you for your anti-vandalism work, especially on high-visibility articles on the coronavirus. I'm hoping that with vigilance we can avoid having to semi-protect these articles so that all editors can contribute to them. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:30, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Liz, for your assistance. The sentiment is a fine one, though the algorithms of Wikipedia suggest protection is inevitable. More public recognition = increased vandalism. Although, the kids are home from high school, so that may actually cut down on disruption. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:35, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How can I nominate you if you don't register an account? Seriously - thanks for everything you do. GirthSummit _(blether) 22:40, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ha! Thank you, Girth Summit. Between you and me, when I was still pretty new here and using a registered account only, two administrators asked me for permission to nominate, and I declined both times. Was too busy adding content and creating articles. Now I'm too busy doing whatever it is I do, and I enjoy being an anonymous nuisance to vandals and promoters. And unintentionally annoying admins, too. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I can see some attractions of anonymity. IPs are hard to recognise, but I've learned to pick up on the CD63 bit, and to expect clueful edits from you - keep doing whatever it is you do, let me know if I can ever help. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 23:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But....it seems to me that reports of blatant vandalism are languishing at AIV, sometimes for hours, as I can't recall seeing in years. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:17, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And I always knew that I lacked the temperament to be an admin. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:34, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob! I'm just leaving you a note to let you know that I replied to the discussion you started at ANI just a bit ago. I hope you have a great rest of your weekend and that we keep in touch. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much, Oshwah. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:00, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:13, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I found the other account and I indef'd it as well. Thanks for letting me know! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Oshwah. Looks like the socks keep coming--Victoria School could use a lock. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • (TP stalker) protected for one month. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Stalk on, Ohnoitsjamie. Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:06, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet deal - thank you, Ohnoitsjamie, for taking care of that! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page watchers, a long term puffery post, apparently overseen by COI accounts. I've started to clean, but would appreciate more eyes. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Serial Number 54129, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Yeah See how long it sticks. ——SN54129 19:40, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, yes. There are always other options, if necessary. Though a report at the BLP noticeboard can grow whiskers waiting for a response. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:42, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • First of all, who knew [14]? Damn, another thing I can never unsee. Second, thanks, Serial Number 54129. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One doesn't know where to begin. Bless anyone who wishes to take this on with a discerning eye. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:54, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mass copyright violations from multiple sources. I'm not pinging Diannaa anymore, because she's heard from me enough. Any sequestered admins are invited to have a look. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

`help me~ This is Darlene. I am new to Wikipedia and I need help in determining what the problems are with post. Happy to adjust it, as needed. Dtrewcrist (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC) dtrewcrist[reply]

• Darlene, Dtrewcrist, Hi! I suspect you may have been the original author of some, or much, of the content you were posting. Even so, you can't copy and paste it here, and WP:SELFCITE would be a concern, albeit less pressing than copyright issues. Maybe the best practice would be to be selective in what you extract from your sources, since we're an encyclopedia and not a brochure. That's even more relevant if the sources are WP:PRIMARY, since you don't want to lean too much on that. And of course, everything has to be sourced. It's a bit of an obstacle course, especially if you have any conflict of interest with the subject--WP:COI. All that said, you're a professional, and will be able to navigate this. Give me a holler and I'll help if I can, or one of my colleagues will. Cheers on this crash course, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, once I read through all of this, I'll be back in touch. Most appreciated Dtrewcrist (talk) 21:13, 19 March 2020 (UTC)dtrewcrist[reply]

Regarding the Pearl Thompson update, this information is correct and cited by the years stated by the artist representative. Is there any way of having approval or confirmation? Sayhellotoc3po (talk · contribs)

• Hi, Sayhellotoc3po. All content must be supported by published WP:RELIABLE sources; (it's unbelievable that nobody made you aware of this in five years). We can't publish material, especially in a WP:BLP article, unless it's properly referenced, and the say-so of the artist or their associates isn't acceptable. Further, there's a WP:COI issue--a subject's paid agent is rarely a reliable source for neutral information. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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...I'm letting you know that I replied to your message on my user talk page. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:36, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Antandrus, I submit 46.98.84.49 (talk · contribs). Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:52, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - missed that one. Blocked now. Antandrus (talk) 04:48, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. In addition to sequestration, WiFi is down here. It’s like we’re camping in the woods. Except for the Burger King drive through we just went through. 2600:387:0:803:0:0:0:B0 (talk) 19:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CD63, if you would like to have older conversations archived, just say the word and I will be happy to do it for you. S0091 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(watching) @S0091: an equally useful target for your archiving talents would be here... :) ——SN54129 20:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! That one is a bit intimidating. Perhaps I oversold my archiving talents. :) S0091 (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, S0091. Maybe soon. When it really gets annoying for others. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:75BB:4BD0:D3CD:79D (talk) 22:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So it goes....2601:188:180:B8E0:75BB:4BD0:D3CD:79D (talk) 22:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy as a non notable group? A sect with thirty members and no WP:RELIABLE sources. The article was posted thirteen years ago..... 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89 or Oshwah, could you rev/delete the defamatory content? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob! Sorry for the late response. Glad to see that this was taken care of. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:15, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my decline at WP:RFPP permalink. Johnuniq (talk) 02:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Much appreciated, Johnuniq. It's sporadic, but we can count on a recurrence. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Johnuniq, I think it's time for the page lock. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 23:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I asked at User talk:Antandrus#LTA and am watching Talk:Katyń (film). Johnuniq (talk) 00:09, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Great, Johnuniq, and thanks to Antandrus, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leaving breadcrumbs. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 20:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken two bios to noticeboards, both suffering from promotional or, in the case of Upshur, persistent unsourced and copyright violations. Thanks to talk page stalkers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 21:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Elizabeth Tan (English actress)
• Ross Upshur

I've handed out blocks and removed some more copyvio. — JJMC89 (T·C) 22:46, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, thank you. And wherever you are, stay safe and be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:DC8C:D31D:1DDB:9A1A (talk) 23:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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• Thank you, Cryptic Canadian! Not the first time I've been mistakenly trolled by the bot at AIV, won't be the last. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blue linked murder being changed, I would love to know why. Not disruptive at all, but DE -Sensationalizing. Unless your goal in Sensationalism? Why not make every word blue. Especially annoying as I doubt you have ANY familiarity with the page in question. As for citations for other edits, yes and I will add them. Freelonius (talk) 01:19, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Probably not my favorite wikilink of all time, but there was nothing wrong with it, and it doesn't sensationalize the matter. As for annoying, your first few edits didn't bode really well, and charging moi with lack of familiarity isn't a good fit. Please do find WP:RELIABLE sources, and refrain from adding trivia to the introduction of an article, or to ANY article in general. Good luck, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • More to the point, Freelonius, almost none of James Gurley is sourced. What an article in that condition needs is reliable published sources for what's already there. Since the subject was a notable musician, sources exist. But one of the problematic areas, for instance, is the detail about his personal relationship with Joplin--it all really needs references. Where did the details here come from? The point is, all the unsourced content may be removed at any time. I haven't done that, yet. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two good starting points that may be used for citations: [15]; [16]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stay six feet away, maybe.

Drmies (talk) 02:00, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Drmies. You stay safe, too, as we're inclined to say these days. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Advert, COI and copyright infringement. Talk page stalkers, perhaps we can begin by rev/deleting plagiarized content, which goes back at least to mid September of last year. Hey, maybe a lot further. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some copyvio cleanup. It wouldn't surprise me if there is still some left. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:10, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, JJMC89. I may go back into it to remove some of the unsourced and promotional stuff, and check a few random passages for copyright issues. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• 173.61.56.158 (talk · contribs)

These drafts seem really unlikely, and call into question their unsourced edits at existing articles. The standard children's animation obsession. Talk page stalkers welcome to have a look. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page watchers--Melcous, Serial Number and JJMC, I'm not going to ping you, but you know the drill--if you've got time, this is an accretion of unsourced history strung together by a WP:COI. I hate to go in and undo it, but there's so much cruft of non essential unsourced content and photos. It's a scrapbook. Suggestions welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:49, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• And for the admins, the possibility that multiple passages were copied from the town FD's website. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • JJMC89, thank you for dealing with the copyright issues. This is an ownership problem, an enthusiast who's not sourcing anything. It needs a scalpel in a dozen ways, but as is often the case, I'm hesitant, as I've already spent too much time there. If Melcous or Serial Number 54129 have any suggestions, I'm all ears. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:55, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've done an initial cull of what seemed clearly non-encyclopaedic. Might come back later. Hope you are doing well. Melcous (talk) 03:36, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Melcous, thank you. Well enough, though a series of health issues--including the virus--has been a concern for close family. And the novelty of isolation is wearing off with the realization that this isn't ending any time soon.....otherwise, peachy. Hope you're well and staying safe. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:IAR. ((SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In))^{PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply}(Talk) 03:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh yeah, and Happy April Fool's Day to you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for bureaucratship ((SUBST:replyto|Can I Log In))^{PLEASE copy and paste the code to reply}(Talk) 03:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just popping in to say hi and to thank you for your tireless work!

— Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 03:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much, Javert2113. Be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:57, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered when they'd pop back in to dump their mess again. Thanks for reverting. 121.44.38.245 (talk) 12:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC) (another who likes being an IP address!)[reply]

• Of course. It was not an article I'd been watching, but came across while reviewing recent edits. It was easy enough to check the content, edit history and associated discussions. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would appreciate some more eyes on this WP:BLP, and whether the personal life content I've twice restored is worth keeping. There appears to be a COI account trying to clean things up. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Back from when I amassed a lot of edits with dozens of 99 IPs; I think 99.178.163.130 (talk · contribs) was one. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps rev/deletion of a recent edit; JJMC89 or ToBeFree, what do you think? Borderline? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks, ToBeFree. It was pretty nasty, at that. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It wasn't borderline, it was oversighted when I forwarded the request. No worries, though, and thanks for the report. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree, we may have some rev/deletion content; defamatory business. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who I am today. 2601:188:180:B8E0:F0DC:1123:FA3D:179C (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree, do you think the scandal business I reverted is defamatory enough to be erased? Thanks, and sorry my IP is hopping of its own volition tonight. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 03:12, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Being an IP hopper is a sign that you need to register an account ASAP! But annonymously so we don't connect your account to your IP. Just do it! If your IP is not 1234567890% static, then you must register an account. ((replyto)) Can I Log In's (talk) page 05:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, there's no imperative to register an account. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Without replying to any of the above sections specifically, I'd like to thank you for all the work you do. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• The sentiment is mutual, ToBeFree. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  That's wonderful to hear. You're welcome and thanks again ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question to talk page stalkers with a literary bent--and that would, I hope, be all of you--how much of this borderline promo is relevant to the publisher, and how much of it is piggybacking on the success of his authors? I suspect even Maxwell Perkins didn't take this much credit. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quick take; I wouldn't count the the notable books/authors he's published/represented much toward notability, but rather if he himself has been written about with any kind of depth in reliable sources. There are a few reliable sources that talk about his 1969 book, but the article definitely feels like it's reaching for notability, and I suspect a COI by the creator/main contributor. I could see it going either way in an AfD. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't even questioning notability yet, Ohnoitsjamie, but you have a point. And there's little doubt that a COI editor is involved, using multiple 'Rocket88' accounts. Edits to other articles substantiate that conclusion. A lot of the namedropping and review blurbs can go. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 16:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A bio with long term COI involvement--I think I came across this one evening while following Drmies's recent edits. Can probably use more cleaning up, and more eyes in general. Thanks, talk page stalkers. Hope all are healthy. Until next time, be well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:03, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't do very much--at some point you can only clean so many toilets before you have to vomit. I hope you and yours are well. We're doing lots of cooking and online teaching/learning. And we're lucky, with a big house and a yard; my heart goes out to all the people who don't have that luxury. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • At some point I may return to it and trim more unsourced. Ditto on the new lifestyle. Revving up to teach online this month, and feeling blessed to have left the city years ago for rural digs. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

50.253.51.81 (talk · contribs) looks like Duane E. Tressler (talk · contribs). Drmies, do you want to roll back everything? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• And I've already received two erroneous warnings for trying to clean up his crap. So some assistance would be great, or we can do another waste of time at ANI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:54, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I noted your rather valiant anti vandalism efforts and was wondering if you'd ever consider making an account? See, by making an account you can have access to tools like Twinkle which can quickly and easily report Sockpuppeting without the whole mess of having to manually go round all the manually writing up everything. It just makes life easier. A suggestion, you're doing brill btw, keep it up! (also, having twinkle or another tool really helps us as you won't get as many Cluebot reverts or (mainly me) getting confused due to the "rapid reverting edits" tags) Ed6767 (talk) 02:14, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Side note: I would help to clear this up but with over 400 edits, there's too much to roll back and not all of it looks nonconstructive. I can file a sockpuppeting report for you if you'd like? Ed6767 (talk) 02:18, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• 2601, you deserve a medal for all those reverts. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This has been going on at least since 2015, when Mr. Tressler was blocked. He has since made a hobby of editing from Baltimore libraries; it's all block evasion, mostly unsourced and largely violates WP:MOS in multiple ways. All this was explained when his account was indefinitely blocked by Drmies. We've since discussed his socks on multiple occasions, including [17] above. Ed6767, feel free to open an SPI. Once you start down that rabbit hole, it will go a long way. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh gosh lol, this guy just won't give up. Rather silly. Thank you so much for making all those reverts! Ed6767 (talk) 02:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, thanks. I really don't intend to unretire, but then I pick up one of the Baltimore threads and marvel at its longevity without anyone noticing or blocking. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:28, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Power apparently went off, and here we are. 2601:188:180:B8E0:79AD:9587:3F30:15D7 (talk) 20:14, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would appreciate more eyes on this--I've removed unsourced content with copyright/paraphrase issues twice. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:25, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• [18], page 153. I'm at the verge of edit warring to remove unacceptable content. Admin help welcome. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tag. What happens when I reboot. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8582:E7C7:C0B6:2FB7 (talk) 03:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing since my initial report last month [19]. More eyes and administrative action appreciated. Articles may need to be salted. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8582:E7C7:C0B6:2FB7 (talk) 06:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of unsourced, original research and Disney hagiography. More eyes requested. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, this article is a mess. We need more expertise. I'm new and doing what I can. Appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 20:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tikiroom, it needs sources, period. I'm generally not copy editing the vast tracts of unreferenced content, because it's a waste of time unless there's some reliable published corroboration. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. I will try to reach out to some other people for some collaboration on this. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 23:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC) Please note that I have a PhD and been published by Routledge. I do not think Walt Disney was a God and plan to present both the pros and cons of the concept. There is a lot of high school level material in the article and will require time and patience. You said it needs sources, period. You are wrong. It needs much better material AND sources. I know a lot about the subject and Wikipedia would be lucky to have my help fixing this utter mess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tikiroom (talk • contribs) 05:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Terrific. Wikipedia looks forward to benefiting from your contributions. We are lucky to accept well sourced, objective research from tens of thousands of contributors. Good luck, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd appreciate some input from JJMC89 and Drmies, having twice hit a wall with administrators over speedy deletion of the article. See the talk page [20]. It was laden with unacceptable sources, which I've pruned, and pretty likely written by a WP:COI. I don't see anything there supporting notability, and would nominate via AFD if I could. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yeah, I probably wouldn't have supported speedy deletion either, but I put it up at AfD, cause that seems like the right choice. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thanks for all your hard work! Thanoscar21talk, contribs 22:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Thanoscar21. I assure you I'm quite tiresome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For passing administrators, a nice bouquet of rev/delete awaits. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wake up, sit down to the desktop, and find myself thus gifted with a temporary IP. 2601:188:180:B8E0:75D4:48D4:757F:B45F (talk) 21:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Long term resume/hagiography, with few sources. I can go in and cut most of it, but the edits will likely be treated as vandalism, or just reverted by the accounts that have long overseen it. Drmies or Melcous, any interest? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 12:45, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey B0B, it's been a while, hope you are keeping ok in this most unusual year. I've had a go at cleanup, will see what happens next. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good to hear from you, Melcous. Staying well and hoping you are, too. Looking forward to next year....then I can enjoy 2020 hindsight. Terrific work, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:16, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I noticed you went and deleted a number of images I posted to pages. I am wondering why. Some of the pages did not have any image at all associated with them. Wikipedia often uses works of art as the image for a given article and there are not rules against that. How does the addition of the image take away from the article?

--Benjamincookart (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I did delete them, and now you've restored them. The images do nothing to improve the articles, are often related to the titles in tangential ways, and function mainly as promotion of your work. Some thoughts and assistance from Drmies, Melcous or JJMC89 will be appreciated. I don't want to edit war, or make it look like I'm being sneaky by using multiple IPs. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 21:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that they add nothing. There are rare cases where user artwork may be appropriate in the absent of photographs, but none of your images were useful. There are plenty of other places on the Internet to show off your art; Wikipedia isn't free webhosting. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:05, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. I didn't realize you'd already reverted back and left them a message. Cheers, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am still wondering where this "rule" comes from? Could you point me to the location where it is stated that photographs are preferred over other forms of images? Is this an unspoken protocol? If there are no specific rules against it, I do not think that you should be taking it down. Also, the image is 350dpi, and not poor quality as far as resolution goes. If you are speaking to the style or content of the image, then okay, you can have that opinion.

As stated on Wikipedia's guidelines for posting images. It explicitely states that the use of paintings are okay.

"Images should look like what they are meant to illustrate, whether or not they are provably authentic. For example, a photograph of a trompe-l'œil painting of a cupcake may be an acceptable image for Cupcake, but a real cupcake that has been decorated to look like something else entirely is less appropriate. Similarly, an image of a generic-looking cell under a light microscope might be useful on multiple articles, as long as there are no visible differences between the cell in the image and the typical appearance of the cell being illustrated."

Additionally, the creation and use of my own content for an article is permitted:

"Making images yourself [edit] For further information, see: Commons:How to take pictures and Graphics tutorials You may upload photographs, drawings, or other graphics created with a camera, scanner, graphics software, and so on. When photographing or scanning potentially copyrighted works, or creating depictions of persons other than yourself, be sure to respect copyright and privacy restrictions.[further explanation needed] In order to maximize images' usefulness in all languages, avoid including text within them. Instead, add text, links, references, etc., to images using Template:Annotated image or Template:Annotated image 4, which can also be used to expand the area around an image or crop and enlarge part of an image—all without the need for uploading a new, modified image."

--Benjamincookart (talk) 00:46, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

From /Wikipedia:Donated_artwork It is an effort to acquire original portrait images for articles where no photograph is currently available. You're not contributing anything that we don't already have plenty of photos of. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 00:50, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're really forcing my hand, as well as that of other editors here: The images aren't very good, they are not specific to the article subjects, and the persistent attempts to include them indicate and underscore a self-promotional intent. Please don't leave any more messages here, and understand that I'll request a block on your account if you continue. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 00:59, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If any admins are bored, there's some edit history rev/deletion on both of these. The bio appears to have been originally constructed by copying the candidate's campaign website. Really [21]. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• And someone please block Benjamincookart (talk · contribs) for wikilawyering all over the landscape. See above section. Otherwise I'll take it to ANI tomorrow. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:17, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've taken it to ANI. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Melcous, you're good with these--created by a promotional/paid account, looked after by family. I've done some pruning, but it still may carry excessive quotes and photos. Your thoughts appreciated. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:18, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies and ToBeFree, 98.208.64.39 (talk · contribs), who you've both blocked in the past, returned this week for more of same. A bit stale to report now, but this user merits a longer time out. Cheers, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 22:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• They were warned--if they do it again I'll be happy to be block for very, very long. Drmies (talk) 01:21, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 02:58, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks you two :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Boro Boro and other articles connected through their 'see alsos'. Thanks, 73.186.215.222 (talk) 20:21, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Have begun a thread at ANI [22]. I'd assumed there are general editorial limits to such sections. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 20:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're welcome; I saw it at AN/I and thought it was prematurely closed, but since they haven't edited since, it may be moot. Anyway I looked at them and did think they all contravened MOS:ALSO. I haven't looked at the draft they were including, since not only am I a notorious softie inclined to accept great swathes of AfC articles and spend altogether too much time fixing them up (especially now I've had to throttle back to 99 edits a month), but I don't know much about popular music anywhere, including Bollywood songs. It's possible they're interested in a set of artists and songs that are underrepresented on Wikipedia, which is why I suggested a list article might be the way to go, but it does rather look from their AN/I statement as if they proceeded from the premise that Google suggesting it meant it was not only connected but notable. So I tried to give clear edit summaries. Anyway, I believe we've "met" a few times before, so you know what a waffler I am, and how little influence I have around here, so if they do come back with similar lists, I suggest AN/I again and possibly pinging a few of the powers that be. (I hope a few of those still watch here and will also keep an eye out, so we can try to explain the guidelines.) And, stay healthy! Yngvadottir (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks so much, Yngvadottir. If I go back through my registered edit history I'll probably find some parallel interests, but will remain cryptic for the moment. Unfortunately, that editor's problems with See Also sections aren't limited to Bollywood music. I haven't turned over every stone, but saw other articles with some strangely inapplicable links. Some rabbit holes are a pain to go down, so I appreciate your willingness to have taken this up at all. You stay well, too....(a salutation with a whole new poignancy these days). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't understand why an upstanding IP editor like yourself can't avail themselves of the CSD process for legitimate spam but...I've gone ahead and nominated the userpage in question myself; as I was patrolling the same thing and noticed you were unable to do so. Cheers! ♥ Melody ♥ 02:50, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

• The mechanisms that be won't allow it. Thank you very much, Melody_Concerto. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• • If I may ask; for what reason(s)? ♥ Melody ♥ 02:55, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

• • • A template pops up stating that an unregistered account can not edit another editor's user page, so I'm blocked from doing so. Drafts and talk pages are open. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:57, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies It wasw the previous edit in my window I intended to revert at the same time as you JW 1961 Talk 16:53, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• That's cool. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:54, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, can you lock this for a good stretch? If not I'll go to the noticeboard. The promotion never ends. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(TPS)  Done OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that was still going on? Man. User:Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. I may have cut a legitimate source in the reversion, but mostly was interested in cauterizing the wound. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:56, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for the rangeblock, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure! All the best to you and yours. I'm drinking beer, and we made tamales. Before you know it school starts again, and we'll all pretend things are normal when nothing is. Drmies (talk) 00:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise, Drmies, I hope you're well. Dinner's in the books, I drank something with gin and I'm watching a strangely empty stadium where the Yankees and Red Sox are playing. I can't imagine schools reopening will be anything but a disaster. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:31, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would love it if some admins and dedicated anti-vandalism editors added this to their watchlists. For more than two years, numerous IPs from Colorado have been hijacking this article about a venerable, defunct establishment, to promote a non notable Aspen store established in 2018. I've requested indefinite page protection, but am not expecting much since it's slow, longterm vandalism and has never been called out as such. Until now. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:04, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Or one of those admins can just indefinitely semi the page :)  Done. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GeneralNotability, thank you very much. When I came across the article last night, I thought this was a minor promotional issue. It took a little while for the dawn to break; the edit history revealed a lengthy, concerted effort by COI IPs to commandeer the article. Much appreciated. (Apologies for the IP changes--we already lost power once, and the storm is just kicking up here now, so it's bound to happen again). 2601:188:180:B8E0:8075:CB9B:8A6D:5221 (talk) 19:26, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I ask with regard to User:Ryancoke2020/sandbox, which is nothing if not promotional through and through. 2601:188:180:B8E0:8075:CB9B:8A6D:5221 (talk) 19:48, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Melcous or Ohnoitsjamie, I could use a hand here. I tried to de-puff the career section but just fouled up the cites. Any help, including an eye on the COI accounts, will be appreciated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:27, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For the moment, anyway. 2601:188:180:B8E0:1D7D:1249:C1A7:F612 (talk) 01:25, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Knocked offline overnight. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An accretion of poorly sourced promotional writing for the small town. Drmies or Melcous, want to have a look? I've started, bit there's a lot of non notable cruft, both written and images. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Ugh. I know where to start, but I don't know where to finish... Drmies (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • My sentiment exactly. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:27, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll return to it from time to time. The culling appears limitless. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 17:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow. Not for me today, but good work already you two :) Melcous (talk) 23:35, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Melcous. Drmies has been a great help. 2601:188:180:B8E0:A834:6250:2E50:37AC (talk) 23:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It took a village to get Wyandanch, New York in shape. And after all that this was necessary, haha. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, there's been disagreement for years about the correct lyrics here. If it's a WW II song, do we publish the lyrics at all? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Lyrics_and_poetry; I can't think of any exemptions that would apply to this. From what I can gather, it was written (and presumably copyrighted) by J.H. Kight in 1943. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 00:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa‎, would you mind weighing in on this? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 00:02, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unless proven otherwise, we have to assume that a song from 1943 still enjoys copyright protection.— Diannaa (talk) 02:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do the honors. I expect a few veterans will restore. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:33, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It only took a minute [23]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to do revision deletion -the lyrics have been in the article since the year dot. I will watch-list for a while though.— Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Diannaa. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:43, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was remiss in not addressing that at ANI. Sometimes the words get stuck on the way to the keyboard. If you ever see a zero tolerance edit like that again, please feel free to ping me or to message me on my talk. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:40, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I appreciate it, Deepfriedokra. In reporting at ANI, I decided not to call out specific admins--I need to play nice with them on a fairly daily basis, and no harm was intended--but there's an occasional blind spot on this that tends to reflect the larger cultural ignorance. And AIV reports more easily fall through the cracks in the middle of the night, eastern time, when so few admins are at the keyboard. Still, I was surprised and disappointed that the report lingered for so long, was commented on by one admin and finally reverted as stale. Very best and thanks again, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:46, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, looks like we tried to revert the vandalism on this page at the same time. Thanks for sorting. Equine-man (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to both of you. DMacks (talk) 14:56, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Quite alright. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:58, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Drmies and Melcous, and with apologies for pinging you...but you're both so good. Astra Papachristodoulou, who now goes by Hobbit1991 (talk · contribs), is here primarily to promote their work. I can edit war, or bring this to COI, but sometimes prefer to summon the masters. Your thoughts welcome. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oh man, Ohnoitsjamie is way too fast. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This may profit from page protection. I also wonder whether the crap that was added overnight has earned consideration for rev/deletion. Persistent reference to her sexual appetites doesn't belong in the article history. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:12, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ...and, Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies, United People's Party Liberal could use some attention. Persistent spamming there, and I've reverted to a bare bones but better sourced version. Perhaps something from what I pared can be rescued, but the COI accounts have to be restrained. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added them to my watch. Franzel is teetering on the edge of needing protection (two editors blocked so far; still manageable by blocks). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:21, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated, Ohnoitsjamie. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:25, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:Timothy19, I appreciate what you were trying to do there, but the net result is that ten edits had to be revdeleted rather than just a couple. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: if the vandal's username had to be revdel'ed in its edits, should the next edit's edit-summaries that mention it also be revdel'ed? DMacks (talk) 01:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DMacks, yes, that should be the case. I gather that didn't happen? I'll look. (I didn't look for that, and I didn't do the revdeletion. I actually didn't do anything here!) Drmies (talk) 01:30, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to everyone involved. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Drmies, I saw you mentioned and thought you had done that admin'ing. Twas Ohnoitsjamie. DMacks (talk) 03:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever cleanned up the revdel of the vandal's username, thank you. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding United People's Party Liberal , partial range-blocked the IP for 2 weeks. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ohnoitsjamie, thank you. To be continued, I suspect. Given press coverage in recent months, notability probably isn't an issue. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:54, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New user on a disruptive tear through multiple high profile political articles...looks like they're drinking a lot of coffee. Shemakesmynosebleed (talk · contribs). Just one small sample, looks like some whitewashing of Yuri Andropov. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:22, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, the ones I looked at were troubling. User:Snooganssnoogans, you ran into them--should this be taken to a higher level? Drmies (talk) 14:46, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I think the user is heading for a sanction. Just a question of when. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I've got no evidence other than behavior, but it often indicates prior experience and multiple accounts when a new editor appears so fully armed and loaded, sweeping through high profile articles and, when confronted, taking no prisoners. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Is the FSB--successor to the KGB--an acceptable neutral source? It's central to the Andropov edits, and perhaps others as well. I'm not aware that we accept CIA publications as reliable sources for content on American presidents. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or Melcous, have a look when you have the time. I suspect it can be cut back to pre-user Radspeed version. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:33, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Hope I spelled the surname right). Anyways, the user in question has posted a message at the talk page. I have gave them a response, and maybe you could help clarifying too, knowing that you knew what you reverted. Anyways, thanks, from GeraldWL ✉ 07:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Replied there, though I wouldn't spend too much more time with explanations for a new WP:COI account. I found an old article on him that had good biographical material. Problem was, he was still denying the infractions to which he pleaded guilty a few years later. That calls into question any content that derives directly from him, and underscores the importance of objective third party sourcing. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For your impressive speed against the vandals on Shrewsbury House School. I have to pay my respects to anyone who can beat me at warning a vandal, then beat me at reporting the same vandal to AIV a few seconds later. Thegreatluigi (talk) 21:43, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thegreatluigi, and with a hand tied behind my back, the Wiki equivalent for editing as an IP. Thank you very much, and thanks for helping out so well. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • And thanks to Ohnoitsjamie for all the blocks. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I reckon we've got a pretty good team here. 🙂 Anyway, I'm going to go and tag the vandal's (blank) user page for deletion. At least, as an IP, you can't possibly beat me to that. 😉 Thegreatluigi (talk) 21:55, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know quite how to untangle this mess, with copyright violations that precede the recent mass of sideways--or backwards--editing. If Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies want to have a shot at it, feel free. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Where's the copyvio? Drmies (talk) 01:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Ohnoitsjamie, maybe you can keep an eye on this too, and if there's more vandalism or promotional edits semi-protect it? If we can figure out where the copyvio is, we'll act on it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Will do, added to my watch. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 02:13, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks! Drmies (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you, both. Your choice, but this may require either a user block or page protection. Drmies, though fragmented, there are phrases nearly identical to some of those here [24]. Problem is, it looks like the content has been on Wikipedia for years, so I can't tell which came first. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah, I don't think it's worth our time to figure that out. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:09, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So you just sent me a message saying you removed an edit I made to French actor Fedor Atkine for not citing sources. Actually, what I did was take the information from the French wikipedia page (which nobody has a problem with), translated it, and added it to the English page. This is actually following the direction at the top of Atkine's page which suggests moving info from French page to the English page. I did cite one source from the French page which was footnote 1 before you removed it. The rest is standard information that is found from the Filmography listed at the bottom of the page. I also added a better introductory description of the actor which doesn't require citations either because it's synthesizing what is already in the bio and filmography. I don't see how it helps an online encyclopedia to remove information that is either cited or linked at the bottom of the page. I'm sorry if you can't read French but most of the sources are in French for this guy so I'm not sure what else to do here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:5980:8FC0:4DC1:89DF:5D9B:44D1 (talk) 05:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• It seems the best solution, and an easy way to avoid misunderstanding, would be to briefly explain your intent in the edit summary before you publish changes. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that i have cited from the correct sources as the wiki pages are referred from the information present in official page and the news articles present on internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thwrsi Bhai (talk • contribs) 19:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about this edit, I believe you need to re-read our WP:NPOV policy if you think "a new dawn of permanent peace and path of sustainable development with justice, dignity and equal opportunity emerged" is a neutral statement. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 19:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My previous warning stands, Thwrsi Bhai. Any further promotional edits and I'll ask that you or any associated accounts be blocked indefinitely. Ohnoitsjamie, it looks like the last edit removed the protection template. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This needs more eyes, if you have a few minutes, Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies. I've removed some content copied from the museum's website, though there may be more. It doesn't take much of a Google search to ascertain the editor's conflict of interest--I'm trying to be discrete and not out the contributor. At any rate, this could use more attention, not only for copyright issues but promotional content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did a few cursory text searches, didn't find any obvious copyvios; have they already been cleaned up? Added to my watchlist.OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)c[reply]

Thanks, Ohnoitsjamie. I suppose I got most of it. Feel free to rev/delete, or not. Violent storms rolling through here now, so I expect the usual disconnect, and will return as another novel 2601:188. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And all I got was this lousy new IP. 2601:188:180:B8E0:51C4:A213:DDE6:49FA (talk) 19:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This reminds me of my childhood, when my brother liked to watch an animated TV program, George of the Jungle. The catchy theme song lyrics featured several repetitions of "watch out for that tree!" Nowadays, it would be "watch out for that tree, I have a new IP!!!" Or, "Don't kill my IP".... Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 07:00, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One last comment at 49FA, per conversation. Thanks so much! Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 21:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Tribe of Tiger, they never give up [25]. I've requested a user block. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I had a look at the last version, before you reverted. The "Weinstein" reference had been removed, but still the promotional problems, that you kindly explained to me, remained. The promotional problems could be cleaned up/out...but to my way of thinking, the major problem is the lack of sources. (I have a better understanding of sourcing/refs, than promotional text.) Three of the 14 refs were to IMDb, not good. This sort of persistence, in the face of WP resistance, is decidedly unwise. It is a pleasure to hear from you again! Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 06:48, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry, you were right. Totally my fault. ☶☲SouthernKangaroo☶☲ (☎) 23:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• That's okay. But man, it's getting harder to weed this promotional crap out all over the site. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All it takes is an overnight family visitor with a traveling laptop, and I'm knocked offline. 2601:188:180:B8E0:C1AF:F86E:CDE9:F069 (talk) 03:18, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Melcous or Drmies, consider me astonished--a featured article that summarizes her personal life in the lede, but doesn't sufficiently indicate her significance. My take is that it can use at least one paragraph, maybe two, covering her literary accomplishment and impact. Hope you're enjoying the holiday weekend, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I mention this because either of you will do a good job adding relevant content, and are less likely to encounter pushback than would I. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:40, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • You added some--thanks. I was bothered by the lede as well (I read the article last week, when I watched the Molly Shannon movie), and I noticed that too, but I was more bothered by the inclusion of the 1998 NYT article in the lede, as if were were doing EXTRA EXTRA. I wonder if that was in the version that got promoted to FA. Drmies (talk) 00:57, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, Drmies, we could lose some of the personal dish and gain more about her work. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:53, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks so much for bringing this problem to light and for working to resolve it. @Drmies:, Emily Dickinson should be the poet laureate of WP.

• • My thanks to CD63, for reminding me of her wonderful poems. Even today, her work resonates..."How dreary to be Somebody, How public, like a frog! To tell one's name the livelong June, to an admiring bog." Western social media culture? Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 07:47, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:Tribe of Tiger, that is the link I make when I teach that poem, or talk about it with my kids. Drmies (talk) 13:04, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question for talk page stalkers: does content about a sexual assault lawsuit merit inclusion? I doubt it, but it's the subject of long term dispute. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Deepfriedokra's removal; in addition to WP:BLP, one could also cite WP:WEIGHT and maybe WP:NOTNEWS. Unless the event is significant enough to receive national coverage, I don't think Wikipedia should include a mention of lawsuits against schools and other institutions. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 13:20, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Ohnoitsjamie. I hesitated to remove the content because my involvement may have been misinterpreted as whitewashing by an anonymous user. Better to have an administrator assist. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:25, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, I was too lazy to include WP:WEIGHT and WP:NOTNEWS --Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not news would have been my first rationale, with BLP and undue close behind. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ohnoitsjamie, per your comment at AIV [26], it's not a content dispute, but a WP:SPA who, by their own admission, is representing the subject in a promotional way. I unpacked what was unacceptable at length in a teahouse thread. Rather than acknowledge the problem, they did this [27], and returned to the article. If AIV isn't the place, and they restore puff content again, I'll try my hand at ANI. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK; I would've taken a closer look had I noticed it was your report. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:05, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated, Ohnoitsjamie, and thank you for the note you left the COI account. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ohnoitsjamie, what's the next move? So long as the account isn't blocked and the page isn't locked, this is a lather, rinse repeat cycle. I'll open a thread at ANI later. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At ANI [28]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:07, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, I hope you forgive me. I willn't copy @ paste anything ever again; and to show this, I have gotten rid of the C @ P text and overwritten it with my own-word text. Thank you

Goh (Pokémon)

TechnoBladeSPX (talk) 19:01, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• What's going on with these Pokemon edits? I'm on the verge of opening a thread at ANI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

? What is that supposed to mean?

TechnoBladeSPX (talk) 19:07, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	I've edit-conflicted with you quite a few times, or have arrived late at the scene with you having reverted the vandalism. I just would like to thank and appreciate you for your big role in defending Wikipedia from vandals. Thank you for your help! JavaHurricane 03:21, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• JavaHurricane, I appreciate it. The sentiment is mutual. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On my watchlist. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 04:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much, Ohnoitsjamie. I saw that Drmies recently bestowed temporary protection, and remember this crap going on years ago. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:52, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a never ending issue with this article and it can never seem to get any more protection than pending edit protection, no matter how often it happens.NJZombie (talk) 15:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have accidentally reverted one of your edits, it was a mis-judgement. Thanks for your works. --☆★Mamushir (✉✉) 19:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Quite alright. The intent of such accounts is to cause disruption. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this? Like I stated here. Look at the timing. We edited at the same time, but you beat me to the revert. Our edits clashed. I was going to revert myself. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 02:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• It happens. Still, one of the advantages I enjoy in not using rollback tools is that I usually must confirm the edit before dishing out the warning. No harm. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was just poking around looking for something I read here to make a comment, when I noticed this interaction. I just thought you might like know that our colleague Flyer22 Frozen has gone to the 'Great Wiki In The Sky'. Regards, 220 of ^ßorg 07:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. She was far too young. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, this bio could use more eyes, otherwise I'll request page protection. There's warring going on over spin, and I'd appreciate some attention to insure neutrality. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New temporary account. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 03:41, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, Some help with the multiple disruptive accounts will be appreciated. My report at AIV was removed; frankly, I find that noticeboard so poorly overseen lately, it's more effective to post here. thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Fuzheado, I'm perplexed as to why you removed my report and left two reports by the disruptive IP, without taking action. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 14:28, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Making big money suppressing information about tiny settlements in Canada. I won't be editing for the next few hours, I'll be at the Bentley dealer. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:17, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think that's where Kelapstick used to raise bison, before he got into the capybara business. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Much appreciated. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 17:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ohnoitsjamie, as long as you're at the dealership, pick up an extra one for me. Drmies, clearly the only capybara farm in North America. 2601:188:180:B8E0:2078:A48C:9256:C563 (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One of those where I don't know where to start. Promotional brochure content goes back at least a decade. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:53, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Though I'm suspicious it's got something to do with the political opinions I post to social media. 2601:188:180:B8E0:D0BA:8243:1C8D:D9A0 (talk) 02:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for reverting you on Jim Broadbent, I though you had added the text instead of removed it for some reason. I deserve a whacking with a wet trout for that mistake! ElongatedMusketeer (talk) 23:14, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Nah, that's painful stuff. A dry herring will do fine. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's been a lot of COI here, but could someone check to see whether the content here was indeed copied from the school website? Ohnoitsjamie or Diannaa, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did find some copying. Thanks,— Diannaa (talk) 11:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Diannaa. There may be more, as at [29]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:4C1C:FC42:57CD:B2AF (talk) 13:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On Tom kearsey (talk · contribs)'s agenda. I'm close to an ANI report regarding edits on behalf of Abbie Conant across the platform and addition of non notable musicians to several articles. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Example, one of many: [30]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:27, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ohnoitsjamie or Drmies, please have a look. A lot of content reliant on court documents. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65FA:133E:9CFB:A746 (talk) 17:31, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We need some rev/deletion of copyright violations at Northwestern University School of Education and Social Policy. Thank you, mysterious admin. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:52, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

_{Your section header is hilarious. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 02:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)}[reply]

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	I say if you were in a group of IP users, you would be an administrator. You have also almost never stopped contributing. Cupper52 (talk) 12:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much, Cupper52. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit history by KT0509 (talk · contribs) indicates a promotional only intent. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - not trying to be promotional. Is there specific language I used on any of my edits? I'll remove it and won't use language like that in the future. KT0509 (talk) 13:08, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 2601,

Please do not tag user sandboxes for speedy deletion. Editors are allowed to work on articles in their sandbox and improve them with better references. Don't be hasty tagging them if it's clear an editor is working on a potential article. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Liz, it's a promotional draft written by a WP:COI account. But let them dig away. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm JPxG. I noticed that you recently removed content from Cabbage Key without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. jp×g 22:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

• JPxG, I explained the rationale for deletion: the sources are poor (trip advisor and a resort website), the content speculative (no indication that Buffett wrote the song about that restaurant), and much of it was a promotion for a non notable business. I'm going to remove the content in question again, and welcome further discussion at the article talk page that supports reasons for including it. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is part of a problematic history of promotional/news trivia edits by JclarkeFLA (talk · contribs). 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Thank you for your help to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism! 73.90.205.59 (talk) 00:13, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies or Melcous, any thoughts? I think a lot of this COI promo piece can be cut. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:53, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• No, I didn't have many thoughts, except that it's time for action. BTW the lyrics on FullLyrics are terrible and wrong. Drmies (talk) 17:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Terrific. Thanks, Drmies, especially for the edit summary [31]. There are a few places here that serve decent rolls into the cold months, and we just had some last week. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Special Barnstar
	You are a very special IP. I really want you to create an account now and this is the second time I am giving you a barnstar. Cupper52 (talk) 12:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for the barnstar. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ohnoitsjamie, Drmies or JJMC89, I can remove the non notables, but it looks like there may be a lot of copyright violation added by multiple accounts recently. Would someone run a check on this? Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for helping, Ohnoitsjamie. You'll see that blocking the one account was not enough. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, please have a look at edits by MADA245 (talk · contribs). I'm thinking possible copyright violations, but can't substantiate that. A lot of historical content without a source. No hurry. Thanks and have a good weekend, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:43, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I’d revert, but earlier versions are even worse. I’m on my phone and can’t do much more right now, sorry. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC) Drmies (talk) 15:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I always find it a little discouraging when large dumps of unsourced content constitute an improvement. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Would appreciate more eyes on this, and thoughts from uninvolved parties. Long term efforts to remove well sourced content, claiming irrelevance and undue weight. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for the user warning, Ohnoitsjamie. I'm on the fence about the content; it may well be WP:NOTNEWS, and I can't find any more recent coverage that indicates a trial or settlement. On the other hand, I have a problem with WP:SPAs going back to last year removing coverage by the SF papers and NY Times of a racist atmosphere [32]. More feedback will be helpful. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, same; I lean toward WP:NOTNEWS for most "controversey" sections, but the coverage for that incident is more than typical, as are the severity of the claims. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:12, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie, would you help with this? It's been owned by a COI user for months, who's persistently added his name and an ocean of unsourced trivia, first as an IP and now as a registered account. My next stop is ANI, because there's no indication that they're willing to relinquish control of the article. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• ANI report here [33]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I hope someone will promote my final resting place in the same manner. Drmies (talk) 23:38, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • You and me both. Thank you Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie. I'd keep an eye on the IP farm, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:16, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, as I said, please keep an eye on the IP nest. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:40, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hmm there were just two little eggs in it. I upped the block to indefinite and left the editor a note. Thanks, and all the best to you and yours. Would you believe that my boy and I jumped in the pool yesterday? Drmies (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • I think I found four, per my ANI report, but it's possible a couple are inactive. Would you believe it snowed here today, and it's below freezing now? Also, Mrs. 99 and I are grandparents now. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
            • Congratulations! That's very exciting. I'm very pleased for you. Drmies (talk) 02:33, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, while I have your attention, we need a user block and rev/deletion for unsourced defamatory content. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:31, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, I see a long term disruptive intent, or at least "I edit because I can" from 75.136.24.15 (talk · contribs). Do we need each company identified as American in the opening sentence? Aside from that, chronic misuse of templates and just WP:CIR. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies and Ohnoitsjamie, and any other admins who regularly drive by here, I'm increasingly concerned by the lack of volunteer attention to the noticeboards--perhaps everyone is feeling overwhelmed. I've been reporting fairly egregious cases for page protection and heard nothing but crickets for the last twenty-four hours, so I've started threads at ANI in hopes of getting some response. And then there are exchanges with admins that leave me with no faith in their faculties of discernment [34], such is the inability to distinguish between edit warring and racially provocative vandalism. This is a long way to go before saying thank you for being so helpful. Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:27, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I left a note for Nick, whom I know as a solid administrator--but yes, I agree with you. I don't know about the noticeboard; I only visit them if I see an edit to those boards come by. RFPP is a bit tedious, and I'm sure that that laziness of mine is shared by others. BTW I do always follow your pings, even if you don't see it and it was just to check if someone else had looked at it. I do appreciate your efforts, particularly in countering these racist jerks who come by here and think they can mess stuff up. Drmies (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Drmies. My exasperation is in a minor key, not a swan song--I take leave for days, then return to kill some time. Nobody is lazier than I am. And I'm aware and appreciative of your diligence and assistance. There's a sort of informal heirarchy to the offenses, which places defamation and racism at the worst end of the spectrum. I've no patience for it, and realized long ago that you act with special swiftness in such matters. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, thank you. I did drop by RFPP for a while, and took care of a few reports. It's just so much more work, haha--need to check the history, compare with other articles if need be, compile IPs for a range block if that's opportune, write a short note if the answer is no, check for revdeletions... I'm always miffed if someone takes administrative action but does not, for instance, revdelete BLP violations or racist stuff. But feel free to continue to ping me for those things. Take care, Drmies (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I tend to do less editing on weekends, especially when the weather is decent (which is most weekends on SoCal). I'll take a shot at clearing out some of the reports on AIV, though half of the time I have no idea what's going on with the cartoon/tv show/wrestling-related reports. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 01:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Oh, those are Greek to me, Ohnoitsjamie. My theory is that there are fifteen guys--because no woman would waste her time doing this--who are responsible for the perennial vandalism on those genres. Ages 12 to 55, with an army of sockpuppets. More depressingly, it's the province of tens of thousands of boy-men who enjoy disruption. Especially the animated cartoon crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Ohnoitsjamie, for me, my bane is any number changes in a sportsball™ related article. Someone's goal count thingy went from two to twenty? Pfft, probably fine. (Although meanwhile, I'll happily spend 15 minutes fact checking a date or number change in any other article...) Perryprog (talk) 03:00, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Diannaa, same user as in your previous rev/deletion for copyright issues. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:28, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Handled — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, JJMC89. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More eyes on this, please. Wholesale deletions that don't look constructive. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some help, please. Persistent restoration of news stories containing criminal allegations. I've explained why they don't belong, but you know. Wikipedia as cesspool for this crap. Blocks? Page protection? Drmies? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie and GoatLordServant. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 16:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your many edits to keep Wikipedia clean. BJackJS talk 21:07, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, BJackJS. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89, It looks like a WP:COI is using multiple accounts, including a bunch of IPs, here and at associated articles, as in Bishop's University. I'm thinking page protection and possibly blocks, though I don't know if we're there yet. But we will be soon. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And copyvio. I've take some of it out but there may be more. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:19, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am working to fix the copyrights issue relates to the Governor General's Website. Yet, it is the only reliable source online so I am still going to base on it for now. --210.71.198.23 (talk) 14:49, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Are you the same editor, or associated with Fwfwefefwefefewfe (talk · contribs)? Whether or not you're connected, the same WP:COI notice applies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:51, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We are not the same person but connected. I am very willing to improve the quality of the article but can you please give me a few guidelines of what you think needs to be improved? Cuz I am kinda new to wiki and not extremely familiar with the rules. But I do think that I listed some very reliable citations in APA style to the contents I write as I did a lot of research on the school history, including reading the published works about both BCS and KHC history, the radio records,the major newspapers in Canada, and the UK, and in Asia, etc. I do admit that cuz I was a member of the school so my intuition may cause some worries about the neutrality of the school. I am not a first language English speaker so it might make my edits kind of off the scale to be puffed. Sorry again.--210.71.198.23 (talk) 00:43, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why I kept using different IP is that their are blocks for wiki in the country that I am living in. I had to use VPN even for accessing wiki-- PS: If you can, instead of directly take of content, can you paraphrase of a little bit? I am kind of too lost when you suddenly delete too much content. I do have the permission of the school to edit parts of this wiki page210.71.198.23 (talk) 08:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No one needs permission from the school to edit the page; see WP:OWN. As noted earlier in the thread, the issues appear to be WP:COPYRIGHT (copying-pasting content from other sources) and verifiability (all content must have citations from reliable sources and neutrality (Wikipedia is not a PR platform). OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We can add Townshipper95 (talk · contribs) to the list of promotional accounts editing on behalf of the school. Ohnoitsjamie, this is getting close to page protection and/or meat/sockpuppet check. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ping JJMC89 as well, since you've been helpful at the BCS article of late. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked that one for promo. I'll try to keep an eye out. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:19, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

JJMC89, thank you. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Hey there! Just now noticed your tireless edits to keep Wikipedia vandal-free, and thought you deserved this! Justarandomamerican (talk) 03:18, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Justarandomamerican (talk · contribs), thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:31, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is pretty clear that the section in that article was not copied from CNA but CNA copied it from Wikipedia. It was on Wikipedia 4 months before CNA picked it up. However, Matthew Josef is a serial copyright infringer, and so I don't trust anything he contributes. So it was copied from somewhere else. We don't know where. But always use the Wayback Machine when checking for copyvios. Elizium23 (talk) 05:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you very much, Elizium23. I'm asking an admin--Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie, or Diannaa--to have a look at Matthew Josef (talk · contribs)'s continued promotional and copyright issues at some point in the next few days. I can hardly tear myself away from the tv. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:56, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can hardly tear myself away from this. A Filippo Argenti! Drmies (talk) 16:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see you, but where was it introduced? Drmies (talk) 16:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't know--see Elizium23 above. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:50, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    Drmies, 22 July 2020 Elizium23 (talk) 18:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're still at keyboard, Drmies, I've requested protection and the death predictions/threats should probably be rev/deleted. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:45, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Your discretion as to whether rev/deletion is merited. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of a less vital matter is Christian van Nieuwerburgh, a promotional piece that can use some de-puffing. And is the most recent account a username violation? 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 18:04, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't read it fully. apologies for reverting you. Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks. If you'd like to help, request an admin rev/delete the defamatory crap. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't realize you're an administrator, Dreamy Jazz. Glad I bit my tongue. Thank you very much. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A reminder to ask that new account Meatythighs4bigguys123 (talk · contribs) be blocked. They haven't done anything yet, but my bet is that they will. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:14, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I clicked to revert the vandalism to the page Wikipedia:Books a fraction of a second after you did. I saw it flash on the screen as the page closed. It was that close. I went to the page to undo it but you had already gotten there. I checked here and saw no warning message was delivered. If it had been, I would have immediately struck it. However, I did know what I was doing and did see the problem immediately. On rare occasions, I have seen near simultaneous edits result in such mistakes and that is what happened here. I have been on both ends of them, actually. Nonetheless, sorry for the mistake. Donner60 (talk) 06:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I figured as much after writing my edit summary. There's much to be said for going slower and not using rollback, but aside from myself, the Amish and a few Carmelite nuns, who eschews technology? Thanks and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 06:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• • Well said. Donner60 (talk) 06:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is a fine kettle. I walked into this bio at the beginning of the trouble, when it looked like someone was whitewashing content. After a second look, I thought the controversy re: 'alleged' underworld links looked like a WP:BLP issue, so I brought it to that board. Crickets, as often happens if you don't bring something blatant enough. Subsequently, attempts to fluff the article have been ongoing and reverted, but I still find the alleged business troubling, given the stories are from 2005 and there hasn't been any further resolution. Removing it now will get six editors jumping on me. Please have a look and let me know what you think, Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC89. If nothing else, it may need to be locked for a bit, or a sock puppet nest could be identified and eradicated. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 00:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks. What a mess. I reverted to the least hypothetically problematic version, and protected it fully. I hope this gets cleared up. Drmies (talk) 01:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you very much. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:30, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Once every few months this IP is temporarily resurrected. So here I am until I return to 2601. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 17:57, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So a new avatar. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 23:18, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Giakuan (talk · contribs) appears to take a sentence here and a sentence there from multiple sources, a lot of which looks to have been copied. Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or JJMC98, perhaps one of you could do a copyright check on the most recently edited bios. I suspect they can be reverted en masse, and if I did so it would be a harder sell. Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:39, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Specifically, Jerry Lorenzo--where I've already been reverted once twice--and Telfar Clemens. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 03:50, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • What an awful pain in the ass. All the bullshit about IPs having equal cred is, well, bullshit. ANI is thataway [35]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:202F:67D9:4B39:6338 (talk) 04:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or any competent administrator, I give up--[36]. There's no report I make that doesn't turn into an unmitigated clusterfuck. Best wishes and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:40, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hmm Ohnoitsjamie, there's us and there's the competent ones. I feel like going on strike--that should improve the project! Drmies (talk) 14:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I sympathize; it's painful when you discover something like that and wish you could've nipped it in the bud earlier. Note that I'm out-of-town this week, so I won't be on too much; don't think I'm deliberately ignoring you if I'm slow to respond to something. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:34, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Drmies, I like where you went with that. Thanks for responding, Ohnoitsjamie. I was too quick in thinking that Oshwah had reflexively restored all the unsourced content, when he really took pains to weed through multiple articles and help out. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 15:42, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I just read a great story. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • It is, Drmies. Thanks for sharing. This morning I enjoyed lighter fare, courtesy Mrs. 99, who offered up a few poems about beloved dogs by Mary Oliver. By the way, let us mourn the resignation of yet another single-purpose promotional account who couldn't get their way [37]. Don't let the door hit you, etc. I still think the synopsis they kept adding was plagiarized. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's schoolboy crap, but it is defamatory; see edits by 2A00:23C7:5F84:4301:8032:F21F:BE0F:F115 (talk · contribs). Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

•  Done OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:07, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ohnoitsjamie and Drmies, I reported 174.250.212.69 (talk · contribs) while they were editing. The report was ignored for the requisite hours before being deleted. At this point, there's hardly a reason to issue a block. But how was this not aggressive disruption, not to mention persistent vandalism? The cherry on top [38]. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Sorry, I can't tell time and I missed the bit where you said "hardly a reason...". Sorry for your troubles... Drmies (talk) 23:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hardly a reason, Drmies, in that I anticipated the rationale that a block now would be punitive rather than preventive. Regardless, thank you and cheers. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • While I'm at it, can you protect BLM and rev/delete as much as possible? I'm tired of the endless racist trolling. Thank you, Drmies. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes sir. JzG took care of the protection; I revdeleted a bunch. Little white boys, of the pathetic kind. Thank you for alerting me. In other news, THE HEATER IS REPAIRED! You might not have thought that it mattered in Alabama, but it does. Take care of you and yours, Drmies (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Thank you. Now I see that you protected it earlier this year. There is no end to that crap, which I find discouraging as a reflection of our culture. Glad you've got heat again.....having grown up way south, I know that folks put on six layers when it dips below 70. You take care, too. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On this edit history, with at least one defamatory edit summary at Foucault [39]. Thoughts welcome, Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 17:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• That's pretty ... sad. Drmies (talk) 22:33, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Drmies, thank you. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • They don't seem to get it, Drmies. Also, no good deed unpunished, etc [40]. My edit was apparently just another piece of 'edit warring.' Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Haha, I see that editor undid their warning. As for that other editor, Ohnoitsjamie is a very nice person at heart, or they ran into these edits right after being served a delicious piece of Sachertorte. Drmies (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Yeah, that Jamie person needs to be watched. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, could you have a look at OHAM2020 (talk · contribs)? The COI is obvious, and in these cases I'm torn between seeing the links as constructive and spam. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:59, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Drmies, I'd appreciate some more eyes on this. And happy holiday. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent addition of commentary, statistics not supported by sources, misleading and disruptive edit summaries. Asking for a user block, when Drmies, Ohnoitsjamie or another admin passes by. AIV is loaded and it may require more than thirty seconds to confirm that this is a WP:NOTHERE account. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:08, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you, Ohnoitsjamie. Next up for idle hands, Muslims for Progressive Values. Admirably bloated promotional piece, the only question is how much has been copied. Happy T Day, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:00, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Is the Blink 182 and Gorillaz fan a Mrwallace05 sock? Would you take a look at at this? 115.164.62.33 (talk) 05:18, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm not an administrator. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 05:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to decline to take action because NOTHERE isn't a valid block reason itself for IPs and there hasn't been any further editing since the final warning. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 06:20, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

With some defamatory content that ought to be rev/deleted; 193.28.36.66 (talk · contribs). Asking for a block and cleanup. Drmies or Ohnoitsjamie? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]