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This is a direct split from RIAA at the moment. It really needs a rewrite. Ideas for the article and it's name welcome. --h2g2bob 02:08, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I think both of those titles are too vague. "File sharing" is at least slightly more specific. How about "RIAA efforts against MP3 downloads"?
Steve Lowther 08:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
"RIAA efforts against file sharing". Shouldn't it be "RIAA efforts against file-sharing", because "file sharing" is a noun and a hyphen should be used in this instance. Right?
Actually, consider this to be my notifying of my moving of this page to that page.
As for the article itself, I agree; even though it's it needs a rewrite. Qwerty (talk) 06:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I am cleaning up this page since it is a mess, and I have also edited the RIAA pages file sharing section, and will try to make them at least consistent with each other so that they may be merged in the future. Mrsteveman1 19:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I merged information between the 2 articles so that they are at least consistent, in most cases this was just updating events that had yet to occur when one article was written etc. I have made sure that all information is still present, if necessary the section on file sharing in the main RIAA page can be removed soon with a simple link to this page. Mrsteveman1 19:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
There's a tag on the article disputing neutrality, but no discussion of why here. Maintaining a neutral point of view doesn't mean presenting equal evidence for two sides in a conflict unless such evidence actually exists. The article badly needs better organization and a re-write, but is well-sourced and doesn't editorialize - it simply states the history of the RIAA's litigation against file-sharing (with emphasis on cases that have received the most media attention, and therefore, the most peer review), their stated reasons for suing, and the results. So, unless someone wants to say what the article is leaving out, I propose the neutrality tag be removed. 129.61.46.60 (talk) 15:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I couldn't see that this new info was in the Tanya Andersen section: [2] Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 22:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed "downloading" from the article. Every case that I have read about, technically the individual was sued for uploading/sharing. Often news stories mistakenly say "downloading", but when you read the details of the case, the suit was really for uploading.
If someone can actually reference a case where the suit was for downloading (and not just misstated by some news story) feel free to add "downloading" back in. But until it can be verified according to WP:V, it should not be included in the article.
Cheers, Samuel144 (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
This may be of use in improving/citing the article. I'll see if I get a chance to look through:
In particular it addresses some issues not currently discussed in the article, such as the controversy over improper joinder. --Delirium (talk) 00:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
There are too many primary sources (and blogs) in this article. We should be describing Trade group efforts against file sharing through the coverage received in reliable third-party sources. Dynablaster (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
From an RIAA press release scant on details:
While the most common way to address unauthorized music files on the Internet is through the cease and desist program, important legal precedents were set for online enforcement. In January 1998, the RIAA settled lawsuits against three Internet music pirates that violated Federal copyright laws by reproducing and distributing copyrighted sound recordings without authorization. The association received injunctions to stop their illegal activity, but decided not to collect monetary damages so long as the defendants never resumed their illegal activity. In May 1998, the association sued two more music sites that were illegally distributing full-length songs for download. This time, in addition to permanent injunctions, the RIAA received some monetary damages from the defendants who were also required to perform community service.
The same release also mentions the Soundbyting Campaign of cease-and-desist letters which began in April 1997 1998.
From a May 1998 cease-and-desist letter to a website operator:
In June 1997, many of RIAA's member record companies filed lawsuits in three federal courts against three web sites. These sites, like the site listed above, reproduced full-length sound recordings to a server and then allowed users to download these recordings. In each of these cases, the courts issued decisions and consent judgments in favor of the RIAA's position and approved stipulated damages awards of over $1 million against each defendant.
This info should be further researched for citable details and incorporated into the article. —mjb (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I have done this, finally. —mjb (talk) 08:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I proposing selective merging Impact of illegal downloading on the film industry to Trade_group_efforts_against_file_sharing#Effects_of_file_sharing for the following reason: The Impact article as it stands now is a clear essay and POV-fork of this article, this was recognized in the AFD, but seen as fixable. I considered rewriting the Impact article, but realized that in doing so the entire "Forms of.." and "Reasons for.." sections would be removed as offtopic and of the "Effects of..." approximately 80% of the content would be removed/replaced due to POV concerns. What remains is not a sufficient article in its own right, but a mere one section stub. This article already has a section on the effects of file sharing, which such an article would be redundant to. It is also important that the impact article restricts itself on the film industry, while this article has all trade groups in its scope. As we don't have a proper mother article (Impact of filesharing) having a single subarticle at this point makes little sense. I believe this topic is important and wikipedia should eventually have an article covering it, but what we have now is a travesty and it should be merged to at least present NPOV information to our readers. Yoenit (talk) 09:17, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
I just reverted a recent edit that removed some torrentfreak sources - I believe they meet WP:RS in this context. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Power - there's nothing with using a non-neutral source in an article. If we were required to use entirely neutral sources, we pretty much couldn't write an encyclopedia - the vast majority of sources have biases of one sort or another. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 18:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
The 2006 raid was detailed in the documentary Steal This Film.[3]
The Police investigation is also described in numerous written works, some far less sympathetic to the founders of The Pirate Bay than this film, none of which are promoted in this article. Consequently, I am wondering what purpose this text serves. We can amend the text to read "The 2006 raid was detailed in the documentary Steal This Film and the book Free Ride" but I would prefer simply to remove it. — ThePowerofX 12:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
A quick precursor - I am a new wikipedia editor and thus might be approaching this incorrectly; please let me know if there is a better way to propose/enact changes
I would like to propose re-writing the Determination of Damages section, as it offers no information on how the RIAA fundamentally determines the damages sought in its lawsuits. Specifically, the section currently consists mostly of specific lawsuits from the RIAA and how they were or were not deemed constitutional (information that I consider somewhat irrelevant to this section), and offers very little information as to why the RIAA sought specific amounts from certain individuals. To change this I want to add information from US Copyright Law showing how copyright holders are eligible to seek between $750 and $30,000 per infringement, and then use specific court cases from the RIAA to show what factors might influence their decision to seek more or less damages from an individual for each infringement.
Additionally, the line "The evidence of the effectiveness of the suits is not conclusive. Recent research suggests that the lawsuits have reduced the number of files large file-sharers offer but have had limited effect on those who only offer small number of files (typically less than 1000) and have had negligible effect on general availability of files at any random time." does not seem to pertain to the section, as it alludes to the long term effects of lawsuits and not about the lawsuit damages themselves. At the very least, I believe this should be re-written to relate to the long-term effects that the RIAA hoped to achieve by seeking large damages from individuals. Gloudas (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
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I have just changed "censorship filters" to "filtering technology" as that is what it says in the reference at https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2008/0421/102322-eircom/. Gusfriend (talk) 22:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)