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This page might be worth adding as a reference: Benneworth-Gray, Daniel (2019-05-08). "Interruptions, and the joy of working from home". Creative Review. Retrieved 2019-05-09. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:53, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Telecommuting → Working from home – "Telecommuting" has quickly become a dated term. Google search trends for the last five years are pretty clear that "telecommuting" is not the common name for what's being described here, varying forms of the word "telecommuting" lose out in large to massive margins to "work from home" and even "remote work." The search engine also shows ~4.9 million hits for "telecommuting" vs. ~165 million for "work from home."

For reliable sources, Google News shows ~104,000 results for telecommuting vs. ~33.3 million for "work from home." Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 03:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. BD2412 T 20:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose for now, as I think this move would seek to change the area of focus of the article. People have "worked from home" for centuries, but this topic is largely limited to recent decades by focusing on aspects of working from home accomplished means of modern technology (telephone, internet, personal computers). I don't see much focus within the article at present which indicates coverage of working from home prior to these technologies. For example, an architect that works on drawings in their home study would be "working from home" in 1930 but "telecommuting" today. Google search engine WP:HITS are highly-susceptible to several biases. For example, many of those hits could be about the topic of home-based business rather than telecommuting. Here is a Google ngrams search that might be more reliable. It shows that "work* at home" has a long history of use, but "telecommut*" and "work* from home" are recent, with telecommuting being used more. -- Netoholic @ 13:10, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Netoholic I explored that same ngrams link before proposing this, but as the data ends in 2011 (nine years ago, and there are questionably steep decreases in every term leading up to that year), I took those results with a major grain of salt. Any ambiguity in the title could very easily be resolved with a hatnote (e.g. "this article is about the modern practice of using technology to work for an organization outside an established office" or similar, I'm sure that could be simplified more) or a sentence in the lead. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Every term would show those "steep decreases" because the data set tapers off and then ends in 2012 (for example, cats vs dogs. It doesn't represent a real drop in usage. Instead, just compare the level of the recent peaks for relative usage. -- Netoholic @ 21:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes, I'm aware that it doesn't represent a real drop. ;-) I'm sorry that I didn't make that clearer in my message. What I meant is that I saw and discounted the ngram prior to creating this request because it's at best nine years old—and even that data isn't reliable for our purposes here, which is looking at the common name of a thing in 2020, not 2004-ish. I hope that doesn't come off too strong. I mean no malice! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:23, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. Does anyone actually call it telecommuting? We still invariably just call it "working from home" in the UK. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  In sort of everyday conversation, that could be. But what do you call the people who are working from home? In that case, "telecommuters" is still the most common term as there really is no other word for them. The terminology could be in flux, but "telecommuting" is still valuable as a way to distinguish the very similar phrases "work from home" (telecommuting) and "work at home" (as in the case of home-based business). -- Netoholic @ 14:00, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  "Homeworkers"! I believe that is the formal term in the UK as well as the common one. But is that relevant to the article title anyway? -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:52, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  "Remote work" is another possibility. The fact is that a tiny number of people use the term "telecommuting" to describe this work, and per WP:COMMONNAME we should adapt to modern usage. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  Seems regional, as that term here would be confused with homework (ie student assignments done at home), so "homeworkers" to mean doing jobs at home hasn't caught on. -- Netoholic @ 21:54, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  We use the term in the UK too but we would never refer to students doing homework as homeworkers or as working from home. We'd just say they were doing their homework! -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:04, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose: The topics seem different. As noted by Netaholic, people have been working from home for a lot longer than they have been telecommuting. Telecommuting implies the use of telecommunication as a substitute for commuting to an institutional setting, rather than just any home-based work. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:17, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per WP:PRECISE, as noted people can work from home without telecommuting. In any case, "work from home" is a verb and working from home is a redirect that already targets here. 94.21.219.87 (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  I've tweaked the proposal to "working from home," thank you! Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 17:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose because telecommuting and working from home aren’t necessarily the same thing. Some people work remotely but not from home—they work from a remote office or at a telecommute center or similar. While I work from home, if I were to work out of an office near where I live, I would still be telecommuting because my actual office is located about 250 miles away. (I say "telecommute," but the higher-ups at my workplace say "telework." The latter term is especially preferred by the US government.) At my previous job, I worked in downtown Washington DC but was using electronic means to work on some material located halfway around the world, so you could certainly say I was telecommuting or teleworking even though I definitely wasn’t working from home. 1995hoo (talk) 22:48, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe at Telecommuting#U.S. federal government:

• As remote work rises at U.S. companies, Trump is calling federal employees back to the office Jan 12, 2020 WaPo

X1\ (talk) 04:56, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]