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Regarding the box that notes the order of largest ships: (Does that kind of thing have a name?) I've removed it from this page because I note that it is a prediction. I'm confident that the information is correct should MS Oasis of the Seas be completed on time, however this is not something we can be certain of and it therefore does not belong in Wikipedia. We can dance around it a bit in the article's lead by saying that it is expected to be once construction is completed, but those little boxes don't allow that kind of dancing... — X S G 14:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
This ship is supposed to be unsinkable, if you believe the company brochures. I'm a bit hesitant to swallow that, as it goes only 9 meters deep, but 65 meters tall, therefore everything must be paper-thin in it, unless those finnish engineers invented a way to fool Archimedes' law. Whole battleships totally clad in armour have been sunk with as little as two torpedos and a big cruise ship sunk on an underwater rock in the Santorini crater two years ago, so the article could elaborate on the ways this giant of a ship hopes to avoid destruction at the hand of TNT-laden jihad inflatables or nasty reefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.210.162 (talk) 15:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
The actual order of the three largest liners goes as: (largest to smallest, not counting the allure of the seas) 1 Oasis of the seas 2 Britannic 3 Titanic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canoe352 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
The article has way too much words on GotS' vanity and indulgence facilities and little solid info on the shipyard engineering! 82.131.210.162 (talk) 15:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I've just been reading this, and whilst it reads very well and makes me want to go on a cruise, it appears to have been written by the marketing department of the cruise line.
Comments such as "it is a place that people will enjoy", "beautiful view", "it's easy to make new friends", "takes vacationing to a whole new level".... not only has the ship not even been finished yet, but it's rather an assumption that every tourist is going to hold this opinion. The text has just been lifted from the PR literature.
I'm loathe to tidy the article up without incurring the wrath of the editors, so I'm flagging it for NPOV to see what people think. Cheers, Steve 86.166.47.127 (talk) 13:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Have updated it to remove obvious objective PR content. 86.166.47.127 (talk) 13:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I added an external link to a June 2009 article in The Atlantic to add outside perspective. There should be something about this in the body of the article itself but I didn't go that far. Jwarhol (talk) 16:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Four months later - and I still think there is room to improve the neutrality of the article - especially in the "Neighbourhoods" section. Ronstew (talk) 22:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The information on this ship is not current at all. The ship is being delivered ahead of schedule and is fully funded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.0.3.116 (talk) 20:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Just added funding info. Its been bothering me for a while. --Devin122 (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Is it necessary to include that their annual report said that they might not be able to secure funding? They did secure funding, after all. Putting a blurb in the risk assessment section of their annual report doesn't necessarily mean that it's a big concern. A cruise line might also put, for instance, that there's a risk that the price of fuel will skyrocket and cut into their bottom line, but that wouldn't necessarily be something you'd need to put on RCI's wiki page. I'm going to go ahead and delete the line about the uncertainty related to funding since it's irrelevant now anyway. Feel free to revert if you guys discuss it and feel otherwise. 96.237.120.177 (talk) 22:33, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Oasis of the Seas has departed for her sea trials, and she needs a new photo. If you look on Oasis of the Seas and click on photos, you will find a link that says downloadable images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.231.252 (talk) 17:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Your right. Sorry! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.231.252 (talk) 02:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
More photos! And more information on the engineering of this very interesting vessel. The stuff about the amenities if fine but lets get more on the engineering. Gingermint (talk) 01:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
This brochure says that installed power is "3 Wärtsilä 12V Engines each 13860 kW and 3 Wärtsilä 16V Engines, each 18480 kW", instead of 8 Wärtsilä V12 Engine @ 17,500 hp each, cited by all other websites. True or false? Alpha Centaury (talk) 15:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
That's true.. Oasis has 3 x 12V46 and 3 x 16V46 engines by wärtsilä of cource.. JamppaL —Preceding undated comment added 07:39, 23 October 2009 (UTC).
Does anyone use GRT anymore? For a proper comparison, shouldn't we stick with displacement and gross tonnage? Especially seeing as Oasis of the Seas isn't a cargo vessel, yet they seem to have calculated the GRT for a bulk carrier! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.59.43.240 (talk) 13:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes the only readily-available sources of information on a new vessel are the line's website, or websites catering to cruise enthusiasts (which often rely on press information distributed by the cruise line). Once a ship is rated by a classification society it is a good idea to use its information, as such entities are independent and reliable third party sources.
An example: Although the official tonnage rating for Freedom of the Seas is 154,407 GT,[2] the line itself continues to use the figure of 160,000,[3] which was the estimate given or projected by the line prior to completion of the vessel. The same cruise line projected the tonnage of Oasis to be 220,000, a figure still used in some of its information.[4] But the recent presskit uses the higher, actual measurement by the rating society of 225,282 (and misidentifies the measure as GRT rather than GT).[5] We should rely on reliable third-party sources, if available, not information from, or based on, press releases. Kablammo (talk) 15:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
It's more powerful than the Emma Maersk? which has the largest engine ever built; this has 6 which all add up to about 10,000 more horsepower; strange. I guess this probably goes faster (25). 74.37.237.106 (talk) 09:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Should this article refer to the boat as "she" and "her"? Last I checked boats are inanimate objects without gender. I understand that conventionally ships are called "she", but in an encyclopedia I feel it should always be referred to as "it" or "the ship" or some other neutral term. 72.37.244.28 (talk) 14:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
While exiting the Baltic Sea, the vessel passed underneath the Great Belt Fixed Link in Denmark on 1 November 2009 with less than 2 feet (0.6 m) of clearance.
Is there a reason for its placement here? patsw (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
From the recent additions,[7] there appears to be more of a story here. Possible sources:[8] [9] The second one has more detail on the squat effect. Kablammo (talk) 20:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I got a question about reference to "the pass under bridge clearance ..." I added. It was from a video from onboard by the captain. Due to javascript I can't refer directly but if anyone can do this, here is the script: <script src="http://player.ooyala.com/player.js?height=360&embedCode=4ycTd5Ok70VupO95K9Xos4KrQ-6QmhQ3&width=640&autoplay=1"></script>
the video is displayed at: http://www.oasisoftheseas.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.116.66 (talk) 21:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
The height of the vessel given in the reference 10[1], refers to Keel to top height of 72m and not from the waterline, otherwise it would not have fit under the bridge, which has clearance stated 57m! [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.106.231.147 (talk) 08:43, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
The caption of the picture showing the ship leaving Turku reads "Leaving the Turku shipyard, with flue pipes retracted to allow the ship to clear the Great Belt Bridge later in the day." The distance from Turku to the Great Belt is roughly 900 km (560 miles), which means that even at top speed the trip would have taken some 22 hours -- and it would have been impossible (and illegal) for the ship to sail at top speed through the Turku archipelago, not to mention that she should have set off immediately after midnight and the picture shows a sunny day. The ship actually departed from Turku on the morning of Thursday, October 29th and sailed under the bridge early on Sunday, November 1st, in other words more than two days later. News and other data, including the video of the passage, confirm that the 72 meters refers to height above the waterline. The difference was made up by retracting the funnels, timing the passage to low tide, and the squat effect, which contributed about a foot to the clearance--Death Bredon (talk) 15:57, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Sure "She's a sturdy ship Captian." *in my Scotty voice* but does she have enough lifeboats to get everyone off in an emergency... I hate it that I have seen "Titanic" 4 times. I would HAVE to know this before I took a cruise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.88.188.242 (talk) 22:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
On another Titanic comparision: Given the differences in tonnage measurements over time, we likely cannot claim (at least without a reliable source], that Oasis was n times the size of the older vessel. Gross tonnage is not the same as gross register tonnage (and there were different measurements of the latter), and someone, preferably a reliable, third-party source, who is conversant with the method used for each vessel would have to make the comparision. Kablammo (talk) 13:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Nor should the size of this vessel be compared with warships, at least without reliable sources and an exact measure of what is being compared. To take a recent example (which I have just removed): The statement was made that Oasis is larger than USS Ronald Reagan. It is true that the Reagan is shorter than Oasis, and the carrier's hull is narrower at the waterline. Her flight deck however is wider than the superstructure of Oasis, and the carrier has a much deeper draft. We do not know the exact displacement of Oasis (although there is an approximation), as the relevant measure for passenger ships is gross tons, a measure of volume. Warships are measured only by displacement; they are not rated by gross tonnage and therefore we have no measure of gt. Kablammo (talk) 02:24, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Is there any information available on the ship's fuel usage, such as the number of litres used to travel the average kilometre? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilnyckyj (talk • contribs) 18:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I do not agree with your calculation.
The consumption of all 6 engines is 182 g/kWh at 85% load (185 g/kWh at 100% load, means at already Vmax). See here:
Now take 85% of 13,740kW and 85% of 18,320kW and ad both = 27,250kW. That is already 20MW for the truster and 7,250kW for other electricity needs on the ship. 3 times that all, because we have 6 engines and all that at already normal cruising speed of 85% of Vmax.
The average consumption while normal speed cruising (at 19,2 knots/h) is therefor 27,250kW * 3 * 182 g/kWh = 14.879 t/h (357.6 t/day).
As many people you seem not to understand the concept and meaning of kW and kW/h and that was the mayor mistake in your calculation.
But I admit, that it took me also some time to understand it. I hope you can trust a University Master of Science in Agriculture Engineering of 53 years of age. If my english would be better I would try to explain it to you. 84.118.28.207 (talk) 21:37, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, something went wrong while editing. I think I erased one section. 84.118.28.207 (talk) 21:55, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
As a compromise you could write: "When all 3 trusters deliver the full power of 60kW at maximum speed, around 11 metric tones of fuel are consumed every hour by the diesel engines that also provide this energy, that's 264 metric tones a day. At this speed the ship is able to lay back around 620 miles or 1,000 kilometers every 24 hours in favorable whether conditions. The total consumption is higher due to the need of large amounts of electric power on the ship for other purposes then simple thrust." Something like this, but in better english. 84.118.28.207 (talk) 22:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
This article is still C-class, because its coverage and accuracy isn't good enough. But the question is when? The ship's career is ongoing. Aquitania (talk) 23:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Just read a news report that someone had put a live Burrowing Owl on the ship's golf course, allegedly to "make it look more natural". The owl was eventually removed and released in its natural habitat. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 00:28, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I have noticed that the dates in the article are out of date. "MS Oasis of the Seas is an Oasis-class cruise ship in the fleet of Royal Caribbean International. The first of her class, she is expected to be joined by her sister ship Allure of the Seas in December 2010.[11] Both vessels are expected to cruise the Caribbean from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.[12] She set a new record of carrying over 6,000 passengers.[13]"
Well, the Allure of the Seas arrived in November and they Oasis and the Allure of the Seas did meet at por. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jac0103 (talk • contribs) 22:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
The National Geographic channel has an hour-long [less commercials] program on the ship which has been running since the past week in Mongolia. I don't know the original broadcast details Kdammers (talk) 13:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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Oasis of the Seas -- Royal Caribbean Status: In Miami, Florida
Passengers departed the Oasis of the Seas in Miami two weeks ago, but crew members remain on board. On Sunday, the Miami Herald reported it had obtained a leaked recording of the ship's captain announcing that 14 crewmembers had tested positive for Covid-19. CNN reached out to Royal Caribbean regarding the report, who said: "The health and well-being of our crew is our foremost priority. Crewmembers who exhibited symptoms were evaluated by our medical staff and remain under close supervision. In accordance with our health and safety protocols, our crew have been asked to self-isolate in cabins while we await confirmation of initial results from public health authorities." The ship was anchored off the Bahamas but has since returned to the Miami coast. On March 31, the cruise line confirmed via a statement to CNN that one crew member from Oasis of the Seas and one from nearby Symphony of the Seas were "being medically evacuated for observation and treatment of respiratory issues." "We are grateful to local authorities for their support with the evacuations," added the spokesperson. The ship is currently off the coast of West Palm Beach, Florida. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter K Burian (talk • contribs) 15:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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Sections fpr the ship were built at Shipyard Baltija Shipyard, Klaipeda. https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3292709?navList=gallery&shipName=OASIS+OF+THE+SEAS&shipNameSearchMode=begins&page=2&viewType=normal&sortBy=newest 2003:E7:B706:4914:BC6F:A7A5:2D:87F4 (talk) 06:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)