Australia's defence expenditure

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$34.6 billion in 2017–18. https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-releases/budget-2017-18-defence-budget-overview The Government will provide Defence with $31.9 billion in 2015–16 and $132.6 billion over the Forward Estimates. http://www.defence.gov.au/Budget/15-16/

References

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Nonsensical data from worldpopulationreview.com

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The current revision of this list relies heavily on a source called worldpopulationreview.com. I have no idea why this website is considered reliable enough to pass WP:RS, but some of the data is clearly nonsense. Tajikistan does not have a military budget of $1.60 billion - the CIA Fact Book suggests a much more sensible figure of $360 million for 2019. Neither does Uruguay spend a whopping $5 billion on defense, which again is just ludicrous given the size of the economy. eh bien mon prince (talk) 23:11, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The IISS and SIPRI datasets that source the two tables are far and away the most widely trusted sources on this subject. I agree that WPR is a poor substitute. Drjjoyner (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Underlying lk Over a month has passed since your original post with no objections, so I am going to remove the table entirely due to the source failing WP:RS. The inclusion of GDP from another source in the same table can be also construed as WP:SYNTHESIS due to clear reinterpetation of data. Moreover, resulting percentages are redundant given specific GDP share data tables already provided further on in the article. To summarize, there is no reason to keep unreliable and confusing data in the article. Should an editor feel strongly about this edit, please provide rationale before reverting and please open an appropriate thread at RSN to discuss the source. Ppt91talk 00:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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New data released in April 2023

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There was new data released by SIPRI on 24 April 2023, which could be added to the main page: Trends in World Military Expenditure, 2022. Kookiethebird (talk) 05:15, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bias

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Neither War on the Rocks nor Defense News is unbiased. They are appendages of the military industrial complex. So why are their opinions acceptable in this context? Of course opposing views could be included. Nicmart (talk) 23:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement of table IISS by Global Firepower.(GF)

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The table IISS was replaced by GF on August 2, 2024 with the justification quote: (published a better list with a more comprehensive source for 2024 military budgets. the previous source makes mistakes about several countries who announced a certain budget but could not follow through like Germany, other countries increased the budget with events in 2024 like Israel and Iran and others). This justification is definitely wrong. Because Germany increased its military budget from 63.86 billion dollars to 78.33 billion dollars. Germany set up a special fund in 2022 in the amount of 109 USD. This special fund runs until 2027 and a certain amount is drawn from it every year and added to the military budget. In 2023 this was 9.17 billion dollars and in 2024 it will be 21.62 billion dollars. These values ​​have been approved by the federal parliament and are law. GF does not take this special fund into account. GF states that its data is valid for 2024.

In addition, the table from Glabal Firepower is riddled with errors

For example: 1 USA GF reports 831.73 billion USD but it is actually 886 billion USD https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-886-billion-us-defense-policy-bill-into-law-2023-12-22/ 2 United Kingdom GF reports 62.81 billion USD but in 2023/24 it is actually 70.05 in 2024/25 it will be 72.86 USD https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8175/#:~:text=How%20much%20does%20the%20UK,expenditure%20that%20meets%20NATO%27s%20definition. 3 Australia GF reports 52.55 billion USD, actually it is 36.8 billion USD in 2024/25 https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2024/05/15/australia-unveils-record-37-billion-defense-budget/ 4 Germany GF reports 55.94 billion USD, actually it is 78.33 billion USD https://www.bmvg.de/de/themen/verteidigungshaushalt

These would be four serious errors in the top 10 alone. In Germany, the special fund was not taken into account. In Australia, Australian dollars were confused with US dollars. I cannot explain the errors in the United Kingdom and the United States.

As the GF table is heavily inaccurate and provides incorrect information, I suggest deleting it and re-entering the previous table. Slim Nesbit (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]