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SEFOR should be added to the list, but I'm not sure where to place it. Any suggestions? —Slicing (talk) 20:13, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
The link to the map of locations of US nuclear power plants is in reality a link to such a map on a site selling iodine pills for use in a nuclear emergency. I believe that this link ought to go and that a map as lacking in detail as this one lends little to this article. Does anybody have an objection? BenBurch 02:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Could somebody please translate this footnote? We should have an english translation as this is an english Wiki. --BenBurch 19:23, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Article is too large and should be divided into smaller parts. I think it would be better to split research reactors and nuclear power plants--91.76.108.224 13:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
This has been disastrous. Instead of having one comprehensive list, the article now has bits and pieces. For example, Romania list a CANDU processing facility, but the Cernavoda plant is missing.
--Ng.j 07:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
If there is CONSENSUS about splitting, then the most obvious choice would be to split off the US reactors into another list, which would be named List of nuclear power plants (United States). The subcategory should be left with a warning and a link to the new page.
Personally, I think the list is most useful in its current format as it is comprehensive and enables quick searches.
--Ng.j 09:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I am in the process of reinserting the information removed by a certain somebody.
--Ng.j 08:09, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
I have now completed the reversion and integration project. Basically I reverted to this version [1] and worked everything else back in. Took a couple of hours, but well worth it. At least now I can read the article on the Cernavodă Nuclear Power Plant.
--Ng.j 09:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
My current plan is that I will continue adding links to new articles here and then building them as I have done for the PULSTAR and the MIT reactor. There are a LOT of them, so I think issues are going to come up regarding putting them all in one article versus a separate article for each. But let me express that fact that I already HATE scrolling down this overcomplicated article.
In fact, if I could take the research reactor list and just delete it from here and put it in research reactor or something, I would be happy with that. Right now we HAVE all the reactors listed, but it is beyond me how any of this could possibly help anyone.
Well back to the point. I'm making those articles so keep an eye out for them, and PLEASE peer edit my work.theanphibian 18:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't think mixing external links in the list is a good idea at all. It's not the accepted practice followed in other lists.
Rather, I think we should have red links in the list where the article doesn't exist, and an external links section at the end. Where an external link is relevant to only one item on the list, it should go into a stub or article for that item (a reactor or reactor site in this case). If the item doesn't justify an article, then it doesn't justify a link either. Wikipedia is not a web directory.
Unless someone objects, I'll work towards that format as time permits. Andrewa 05:06, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I agree -- shunt those ICJT links to the bottom and also note that ICJT doesn't list experimental reactors. One other problem is that many wikilinks which are "live" in fact only go to a general geographical place not to a reactor entry eg much of Russia and UK list. --mervyn 10:50, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I was wondering about specifics of a few things, in particular this: The dates of operation I think are the dates from the first criticality to the ceasing of operation. This came up with the last one I was looking at because I was able to find dates that they began construction, and then realized that I needed to change them. Construction and decommision takes years so it makes a HUGE difference. Maybe we should consider putting a note in the article about what exactly the dates of operation and thermal output mean. theanphibian 22:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm working on articles for Jervis Bay Nuclear Power Plant (Australia's proposed power reactor, tenders called twice and some site works completed but no tender accepted) and Bataan Nuclear Power Plant (Philippines, completed and fuel delivered but never loaded). Do these belong on the list? They are both fascinating stories. Andrewa 03:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
I think the information in the separate list of reactors for Europe and CIS should be merged into this one. Without opposition I will do that on the coming rainy week-end. Sengstag 22:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't want to make duplicate collections of information over and over again. If there's a list, I want there to be ONE list and never have to sync two. That said, I'm working on stuff that's all based around the Nuclear power in Japan article. I even created a map for them. Now, let's not even suggest that the map should go in this article. If something exists on Wikipedia, it should exist in one place.
Furthermore, it does seem logical to have the list of power plants in the Nuclear power in Japan article (keep in mind these articles exist for all the countries). But there's no way I'm coping the information here to there unless I can just put in a stub in this article that says "all the information is stored in Nuclear power in Japan, go there".
Granted, this works against the goals of having a comprehensive list here. Whatever. Does anyone think it would be okay to move things around like that? -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 20:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay look, if no one responds to this in a few days, I'm moving the Japan list to Nuclear power in Japan, deleting what's here, and putting a pointer saying "the list is in this article". -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 21:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
If I can get that list merged out of the article, there are a few things I would change. Firstly, if the table format is kept, I would make it sortable, so comparisons of power production and that sort of thing can be seen better. Secondly, I would make 2 lists, one of power stations and one of reactors. A list of power stations would just be a repeat of the template, but with numbers for them, it would go well with the linked map we have. More work on the research reactors would also be helpful. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 04:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to try this first with South Korea, I think it will look a LOT better after moved to the separate article, and given the size of the current one, adding images and improving it is probably just out of the question. We'll see how it goes. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 00:38, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I could start migrating the list to the respective country's article, but there are still too many things up in the air. Firstly, what about just reactors? Should research reactors be moved? They're not really nuclear energy, but then would it be better to generalize something like Nuclear power in Japan to just Nuclear technology in Japan? This would probably just confuse the issue further.
Then the other languages; many of them have lists separated by country basically. I think the current course could give good resolution to such a thing because, say the German Wikipedia has a list of reactors for every country, then we have a strong Nuclear power in Germany article. We move the reactor list there, and they translate some more prose style elaboration (or that translation could go the other way around). -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 20:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Have a look at these Category:Maps of nuclear power plants by country and please help me out if you have time. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 17:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
The issue of keeping another list by nuclear power plant has come up with the creation of List of nuclear power plants. Honestly, by the simple fact that that article is incomplete, it should be deleted. However, I thought I would take this opportunity to call for comments on organization of the articles. We have several proposals on the table, and just read the rest of this talk page for a number of them. These ideas include:
And I'd like to make another proposal:
Alright, this is mostly housekeeping work, but please go have a look, and go move things around if it makes sense. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 03:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the maps of power plants would not apply to the article and would be clutter. As for the separate lists, we could categorize them within the same article, using a TOC and headings, maybe.Bensci54 16:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Is no longer operational. I'm guessing it went offline around 2004, but not sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.148.0.27 (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I hear over radio all the time about the testing that will be done for the Ginna plant, and I was looking for it in this list. Putting it under Bear Creek was not particularly helpful in that sense. This is in the Rochester, NY area, and I was looking there too. What do you say instead of exact location, we list nearest major city? I know immediately that means we have to agree on what "major" means, as the Bear Creek people are going to feel belittled because their place is not considered "major enough."
Joe (talk) 00:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't there a reactor in Armenia at Medzamor? Does anyone have details?
82.43.195.76 (talk) 23:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The Grand Gulf reactor is listed twice: once under the heading NRC Region Two (South) as "Grand Gulf Nuclear Generating Station", and again under the heading NR Region Four (West) as "Grand Gulf".
Both entries link to the same Wikipedia page titled "Grand Gulf Nuclear Generating Station".
198.8.3.36 (talk) 19:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
The Nuclear Power School article says: "The United States Navy currently operates 103 total nuclear power plants including 73 submarines, 10 aircraft carriers (Enterprise has 8 reactors and all others have 2 each), and 4 training/research prototype plants."
I know where one is, in Ballston Spa, NY. I added it to the list. The other three are missing from *both* this article (which claims to cover land-based naval reactors) and the List Of US Navy Reactors article. Someone with the correct information should fix both articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tls (talk • contribs) 01:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Nuclear fusion is not mentioned in the article at all! Neither is there any reference that all these listed reactor use fission. The are exactly zero commercial fusion power plants in the world, but there are a great deal of experimental ones. Should they be included? Also, the New Horizons probe just recently released to pluto is powered by nuclear decay, does that get a look in? mastodon 20:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
The introduction presently reads List of nuclear reactors is a comprehensive annotated list of all the nuclear reactors of the world, sorted by country. This list excludes nuclear marine propulsion reactors, except those at land installations, and reactors that never achieved criticality.
This is an impressive effort, but it does not include "all the nuclear reactors of the world." For example, the list for China does not include anything other than power reactors, and there are research reactors (both operating and shut down) there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.84.254.241 (talk) 19:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Issue one: Nuclear reactors redirects to Nuclear reactor technology, which is an article about reactors that use nuclear fission chain reactors. So that excludes nuclear fusion reactors, of which there are arguably none yet anyway... even ITER will be more of a test rig than a reactor (500MWt for 10 minutes or so is the best hope). We don't call every test bench on which someone "tickled the dragon's tail" a nuclear reactor... see Louis Slotin.
But, IMO this should be made explicit in the introduction. Or, if fusion is to be included, the criteria for what constitutes a nuclear fusion reactor should be briefly described. Achieving criticality can't be a criterion of course. Achieving ignition might be, which would mean that neither ITER nor JET would qualify even as research reactors, see Lawson criterion. Andrewa 17:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Fusion experiments - such as JET, ITER, the PPPL Tokamak(s), other Tokamaks, they're very, very different from nuclear fission reactors.
So, perhaps they should be on a separate page, or at least listed completely separately on this one.AWeishaupt (talk) 14:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Issue two: There's already at least one reactor on the list that never achieved criticality. Some of the members of Category:uncompleted nuclear reactors were completed to the point of being ready to load the fuel, which was delivered and ready to go. Maybe these belong on this list? Or should they have their own list? I raised this once before, and there was support, but it's a fairly major change IMO and I'd like a bit more discussion... the list is already on the large side. If they're to go in, again, what should the criteria be? Site selection? Nuclear island tender acceptance (inapplicable to some countries)? Site works? Andrewa 17:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
When does the proposed Kaliningrad Nuclear Power Plant get mentioned in the article? Simesa (talk) 22:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I can see that some editors have put a lot of work into this article, but the result is not good. A lot of cleanup and many more citations are needed. I would suggest having separate articles for research reactors and power reactors to keep things manageable. Also consider presenting more information in sortable wikitables, preferably with a column explicitly for citations. This sort of approach is used in lists such as List of solar thermal power stations and List of offshore wind farms and really works quite well. Johnfos (talk) 18:34, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
In case somebody with the powers to edit cares, here is an addition to the list:
Hannover, Germany - Triga MK I research reactor at the department of nuclear medicine, Hannover Medical School (Medizinische Hochschule Hannover). 0.25 MW th, commissioned 10/1972, shut down December 31, 1996, fully dismantled 07/2007. Information from http://www.umwelt.niedersachsen.de/, looked up on March 17, 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.153.11.196 (talk) 08:05, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
should the former reactor at UC Berkeley be listed here? it was shut down a while ago: [2](mercurywoodrose)75.61.141.184 (talk) 02:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
The U.C. Davis reactor is listed as "Operational: August 13, 1998 -", but without any citation. I googled the name of the reactor, and found this page, which says "The reactor, which began operation in 1990, is the newest research reactor in the United States". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.11.50 (talk) 14:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Are these reactor forgotten or is there some reason they can't be included in this list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MCvarial (talk • contribs) 18:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
River Bend Nuclear Generating Station in West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana and Waterford Nuclear Generating Station in Killona, Louisiana are listed in the "Region IV (West)". I believe Louisiana would be considered "Region II (South)", would it not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.84.89 (talk) 01:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I have changed the status of Fukushima 1 through 4 from "Exploded" to "Shutdown". The former is factually incorrect, as the reactors did not explode. It is also pejorative and violated NPOV. In point of fact, all four reactors had been shut down prior to the tsunami. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keithpickering (talk • contribs) 14:19, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Why not make these lists sortable. I've tried it for the French one, seems to work. The only odd thing is that the arrows don't show up. HughesJohn (talk) 11:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I see these units quite a lot in this list. They however are never explained. Can someone enlighten me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonaowna (talk • contribs) 18:59, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
While reviewing this page, I'm finding a couple glaring grammatical issues that are consistently repeated on the article, and if I am not mistaken, these have not been discussed on this talk page. If it has been discussed somewhere, please inform me. According to my assessment, these are all the "status" markings that are used in the article:
Canada, Pakistan, and Sweden also have different tables whose status labels contain more specific details. They could be addressed separately or not.
The main problem is the capitalization. I think it can be agreed upon that the first letter in all of them should be capitalized—but in the case of "Under Construction", "Unfinished. Planned Restart", "Suspended Operation", and "Never Built", there is an extra capitalized letter. In my opinion, they should be lower-case (except of course for "Planned" because it is after a period), because they are not titles or proper nouns. This is just like in page and section titles where every word is not capitalized.
Further, some of these statuses have to be re-evaluated on the basis of having periods in them. As such, the next letter should always be capitalized. I think they should be replaced with semicolons so they can remain lower-case and appear as part of one sentence. For example: "Finished; never started", "Unfinished; planned restart", etc.
I should also note that the status "Finished. Never started." is an outlier, because it contains an extra period at the end which is not needed in this label. Can it be agreed that this one should be replaced with "Finished. Never started"?
What caught my attention before anything else here were two particular status labels with a similar problem. The statuses "Grid connected" and "Shutdown" are formed in the incorrect part of speech. All the rest, such as "Operational", "Planned", "Under Construction", "Unfinished", etc. are adjectives in some form, whether it be descriptive, as a participle, or as a prepositional phrase. The issue with "Grid connected" is that the two words are separate as a noun and an adjective, but a noun is not consistent with the other status labels. To solve this, it should become one adjective "Grid-connected" (hyphenated) that means that the reactor is connected to the grid. Further, the term "Shutdown" is a compound noun (such as "haircut") and is therefore inconsistent with the other labels. In this case, the words should be separated to "Shut down", wherein "Shut" is an adjective (presumably a predicate adjective as in the phrase "The Berkeley nuclear reactor is shut down"), and "down" is an adverb modifying it—as such, the whole phrase appropriately acts as an adjective phrase.
To sum up my explanations, I think that:
Thank you for listening! Mechanic1c (talk) 19:53, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
I didn't think anyone was left on Earth who understood these kinds of subtleties. I would suggest that
(though, actually, I don't understand what this means -- if it's unfinished it can't ever have been started, so how can a restart be planned?) and that
EEng (talk) 13:55, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
I just finished a huge overhaul of the United States section of the list. All of the civ. power reactors, decommissioned and otherwise have been added to the list. Reactors listed without articles have been revised to [site name] Nuclear Power Station for uniformity and clarity. Plutonium Production/Research reactors were separated, and detailed slightly. Eventually, the actual units at each civ site should be listed under each site, each each of the INEL's 53 reactors should be stated on its page. All of this, of course, after i finish a page for each of the US civ power reactors.... Miros 17:00, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC) I just updated the location of Shoreham to East Shoreham, New York, New York to East Shoreham, Long Island, New York, while not signed in, and somehow the change is red. I have not had that happen before. Is it because I was not logged in or did I do something wrong?Sallijane (talk) 04:06, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
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While scrolling through the list, i noticed that Berkeley I has the status "Under Construction" - and nothing more. To me it seems like something is messed up with the table. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can fix that? 84.163.113.101 (talk) 21:29, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
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I did a general cleanup of the page and split the list of research nuclear reactor in List of nuclear research reactors. The country tables can be transcluded in the relevant page like this (example with Italy):
((trim|((#section-h::List of nuclear reactors|Italy))))
Result:
Main article: Nuclear power in Italy |
Plant name |
Unit No. |
Type | Model | Status | Capacity (MW) |
Begin building |
Commercial operation |
Closed |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Caorso | 1 | BWR | BWR-4 Mark2 | Shut down/in decommissioning | 860 | 1 Jan 1970 | 1 Dec 1981 | 1 Jul 1990 |
Enrico Fermi | 1 | PWR | WH 4-loop | Shut down/in decommissioning | 260 | 1 Jul 1961 | 1 Jan 1965 | 1 Jul 1990 |
Garigliano | 1 | BWR | BWR-1 | Shut down/in decommissioning | 150 | 1 Nov 1959 | 1 Jun 1964 | 1 Mar 1982 |
Latina | 1 | GCR | Magnox | Shut down/in decommissioning | 153 | 1 Nov 1958 | 1 Jan 1964 | 1 Dec 1987 |
Alto Lazio | 1 | BWR | Unfinished | 982 | 1 Jul 1982 | 1 Jan 1988 | ||
2 | BWR | Unfinished | 982 | 1 Jul 1982 | 1 Jul 1988 | |||
Trino 2 | 1 | PWR | Unfinished | 950 | 23 Dec 1987 | |||
2 | PWR | Unfinished | 950 | 23 Dec 1987 |
Still needed is (maybe) a title for the tables and finishing the copyedit of the United States table to be consistent with the rest. --Ita140188 (talk) 10:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
It appears to me that this list is a partial duplication of List of nuclear power stations as this list is for commercial nuclear reactors producing power/electricity hence nuclear power stations. Why the two apparent lists? It is a huge task keeping such lists up to date and there is a risk of inconsistencies. I know as I used to keep such a list but for all power stations over 10MW for State of Western Australia. Only small power system. Just asking. Keelback (talk) 08:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Suggest discuss at Talk:List of nuclear power stations#Duplication? rather than here, just to centralise. Andrewa (talk) 21:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Saudi Arabia and Jordan are missing. Jordan has plans to build e.g. an Atmea-reactor--2A02:1206:455F:72F0:C4AF:11E7:5766:D71A (talk) 18:47, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
and not a "List of nuclear reactors" worldwide that would be useful and could be sorted. --2003:C6:3718:CDF1:8128:913E:D5C9:2D28 (talk) 13:54, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I've just updated the article. I do not claim the results are perfect but that they are an improvement!
You will notice that the article previously listed two proposed VBER-300 reactors as FBRs. This is of course absolute rubbish, the VBER design is a PWR. Who writes this stuff? I guess that's in the history. It was not sourced but almost none of the "information" in this article is, and I have not added one.
See https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-g-n/kazakhstan.aspx (updated September 2020) and scroll down to Planned and proposed nuclear power reactors for my best source. But the situation seems to be somewhat confused regarding the country's plans, so it's hard to find relevant and reliable news stories on the web. Andrewa (talk) 18:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
As in the title, I propose to remove the column with gross capacity. It is a very technical information, and not really relevant to the actual commercial power generation of the reactor. This information can always be found in the specific articles about the plants. I think adding this here just creates confusion and makes it harder to keep this article accurate. --Ita140188 (talk) 13:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
I have removed Gorky and Voronezh plants from the list as they only produce heat and don't match description at the top of the page.
That being said, they match the article name - List of commercial nuclear reactors, so we should go ahead with
this proposal to avoid confusion.
Or alternately top description can be modified to include plants which only supply heat.
Apsrubov (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
While the maps are useful, they do not mention the last update.
Wouldn't it be better to remove those maps and only use them in the respective main articles, which all exist?--Wickey (talk) 12:02, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
While discussions repeatedly get stuck, I still do not see the point of maintaining the incomplete List of nuclear power stations alongside this List of commercial nuclear reactors. The first excludes nuclear power stations under 1,000 MW. Separate reactors of a plant have to be added up first and are not individually recognizable any more. Much too much work to maintain that list, and why excluding power stations under 1,000 MW?
I propose to merge List of nuclear power stations into this List of commercial nuclear reactors, but under the titel List of nuclear power stations. This is because nuclear power stations List of commercial nuclear reactors is the complete list, while List of nuclear power stations is the most suitable name.
What is the purpose of the current List of nuclear power stations, to which the smaller reactors of this list are added up and copied if they count 1,000+ MW and not if it is less?
Secondly, I propose to cut the column with gross capacity.--Wickey (talk) 16:38, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
I propose to move this page to List of commercial nuclear power reactors or List of nuclear power reactors to clarify its scope. What do you think? --Ita140188 (talk) 09:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
I think the "United States" part of the list should be subheaded and sorted by state instead of alpha. Often, if someone is looking for a plant, they will look by state first then name.
I agree, and point out that the List of Boiling Water Reactors is already this way. There should be one list, which includes the state. rhyre (talk) 01:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
The tables are transcluded in the wrong direction. It is more logic to maintain them in the main articles, as there is the background info. Moreover, this overall list will be much more conveniently. --Wickey (talk) 11:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Numeric info would be better held in Wikidata to reduce duplication of work across different language Wikipedias - but I cannot face the hassle of doing it Chidgk1 (talk) 19:08, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
articles are mostly overlapping, target page has more entries and is more up to date Ita140188 (talk) 15:30, 23 November 2021 (UTC)