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The following link is the official journal of Intellectual property and patents of Government of India. Please open this link then go to page number 9788 @ The Patent Office Journal 03/05/2013. This link clearly proves the subject invented and is quoted clearly as inventor. Further the name of the inventor and his address can also be verified Moreover it clearly indicates the name of father as well as grandfather. The international category is also mentioned as B64C and more information can be seen http://ipindia.nic.in/ipr/patent/journal_archieve/journal_2013/pat_arch_052013/official_journal_03052013_part_i.pdf Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
In addition to it the following link supported by above link adds a lot of credential to the subject. The following link and above links can be easily compared to reach to lot of conclusions. The heading of the following link is "Intellectual Property India Publishes Patent Application for 'Chess'. This is very important to mention that the subject got patent in 2012 and his invention is published in these official journals in 2013. http://htsyndication.com/htsportal/article?arid=%221459028%22&pub=%22Indian+Government+News%22 Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
These official links has clearly written the abstract about the invention of the subject as "One to six person chess board game for providing a more challenging chess game having six players rather than the traditional two players. The 6-person chess board includes a round-shaped game board having a plurality of round-shaped game- piece movement sections displayed upon a top surface of the round-shaped game board; and also includes game pieces movably disposed upon the round-shaped game board." Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Further conclusions from above links: Intellectual property and patents of government of India has mentioned about the subject and that proves his work comes under intellectual property as far as India is considered. This proves the worth of the work of the subject. Still the subject is not a Child prodigy surprises me and will surprise most of the people. The subject's work is published in top most ie apex body of Intellectual property in India and that proves the intellectual worth of the subject to be suitable for Child prodigy Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
In the above section Ihardlythinkso asked me for my evaluation and interpretation of the sources. Since the above section is replete with repetitive posts and vary hard to parse, I'll summarize my reading of the facts below:
Given the above, the question is how do we present the information that we have, fairly and accurately keeping in mind the requirements of WP:RS, WP:NPOV, and particularly WP:BLP. My suggestion is:
Hope that helps. Abecedare (talk) 09:34, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected Abecedare (talk) Sir: Awesome efforts with pure intentions Really Salute you for same Sir But there are only few points i want to bring to your notice Sir:
1. 6, 12, 60 Design patents along with the design is already with the subject's possession. Those design patents were send to him by Kolkotta office of Director general of Patents and designs along with approved design patents. If required please guide me how to send it to you sir. Moreover please see new section by me " Official Journal" as far as 6 players Circular chess design patent is considered.
2. Respected Sir: Even " Child prodigy" is an aspect covered by most of the media resources. Many times in their words in head lines and many times quoting father.
3. Respected Sir: As far as youngest patent holder of India is considered, we can adopt the middle way of the two ways suggested by you and that would be mentioning subject as youngest patent holder of India as per Deccan Herald and The Times of India. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-10/chennai/37597886_1_duchenne-muscular-dystrophy-eminence-award
Reference 3 of Deccan Herald
Reference 1 of The Times of India also mentioned the subject as youngest patent holder of India in both terms, Media Independently as well as Father. Further this reference also makes it clear that Hridayeshwar the subject undertook whose position.
4. Respected Sir: What about, " Youngest disabled patent holder of the world" as it was also an aspect by 2 to 3 very reputed resources of India and World. Daily Mail (London), Mail Today (India),ETC that too in their own words not as a hearsay of father? Please do justice Sir.
Finally Sir: One line by you resolves the whole issue and that is, " This is a human interest story and not a subject for investigative journalism!. Rarest of rare achievement by the subject in extreme hardships inspires people and inspire media. Moreover Sir, you suggested that if Wikipedia is not sure let us not quote in terms of Wikipedia voice. So following your suggestion i request you to give the subject the status of " Youngest Patent holder of India", "Child Prodigy" and " Youngest disabled Patent holder of World" and quote the media sources for same. Regards Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected ALL: Kind Attention: NeilN talk to me Ihardlythinkso (talk Abecedare (talk) "Talk page of the article "Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati", Talk page of the editors themselves in discussion about the subject of the article, NeilN, Yunshui, Ihardlythinkso, Myself, Subject."
This is really shocking that Ihardlythinkso (talk Sir is still insulting, threatening the people who try to participate in the talk page discussion for the subject. That too he is doing it on the talk page of the article. He is leaving no attempt to prove that this article is at his mercy and all editors are with him. After filing DRN he raised lot of issues against the subject. I suggested lot of references and they were simply turned down by the concerned Wikipedian editor Ihardlythinkso (talk and later on the same editor accepted that he missed the later half of the content of the reference (Please analyse the talk page of the article. This acceptance was also done after i clearly indicated the language in bold to him. Further during this process he threatened us by using the terms " You and your company", " Bogus claims at face", " We all know how bad you people are", " At your feet!?", "India at talk page", " My language etc". Further he mentioned Bogus DRN "Talk page of the article "Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati", Talk page of the editors themselves in discussion about the subject of the article, NeilN, Yunshui, Ihardlythinkso, Myself, Subject." etc to me. This is insult of Wikipedia also. Moreover go to his talk page to the section " Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati", where he has clearly said that it is his prestige point that subject should not get the status of Child prodigy nor Youngest disabled patent holder of the World. Further if you analyse the new and latest section of his talk page he wrote " NeilN " NeilN talk to me will beat!? Whats all this going on. Further he is soon going to revert his comments which he wrote in a bad/insulting manner can be verified on his talk page latest section. I am 100% sure the above incident proves that there is anti subject environment going on and the references are either not read at all or demoted quickly in such a manner so that the subject is demoted. Even Abecedare (talk) Sir guided him for same on his talk page
Reference 1 was already in the list and it clearly mentioned subject became yo how subject became youngest patent holder of India ie Surpassing the previous youngest patent holder of India. Even in headlines the ref 1 mentioned in the heading that he is the youngest patent holder of India.
Reference 3 was already in the list but no pains were taken to see in bold that subject was quoted as youngest patent holder of India
Additional reference: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-10/chennai/37597886_1_duchenne-muscular-dystrophy-eminence-award , which clearly reflect and stated the subject as youngest patent holder of India was not even put in the reference list. The exact words by " The Times of India" about the subject were "However, it was nine-year-old Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati who got the loudest applause in the auditorium which was choc-a-bloc as he belted lines from K'naan's 'Wavin' Flag'. Hridayeshwar, who was diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, a degenerative disorder affecting the use of his arms and legs, is the youngest patent holder in India as the inventor of circular chess."Italic text
This is not fair at all and pure injustice to the subject
Further to quote the words of Ihardlythinkso ([[User talk:Ihardlythinkso|talk] are really shocking and abusive. Please analyse his replies in Talk page of Hridayeshwar singh Bhati.
Further more shocking is the fact that he did it in front of all ie on Talk page officially.
Despite Dispute resolution attempts the subject still suffers and people who try to give useful information are insulted. Unfortunately no one comes to safe guard the subject and us.
Now i got to know the reason why this subject is being degraded again and again Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Just a note that I'm about to ask for a sockpuppet investigation into Dr Meenakshi Kanwar so take that into account when evaluating his contributions. --NeilN talk to me 13:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected Sir: I will cooperate for investigation against me by you for sockpuppet For your kind information I have already declared on Talk page that I am Mother of the Subject. Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 14:01, 22 September 2013 (UTC) Moreover Sir I strongly believe any person involved in sockpuppet should be punished severely, including me (If i am involved). Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 14:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
For editors following along: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sarower Sigh Bhati. --NeilN talk to me 17:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected All : The news of the subject was covered recently in a reputed national magazine of India. His article appeared in the magazine “Society”, in the regular feature of this magazine known by “Privileged Information” under the title head , “ Checkmate” for the subject of the article ie Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati. Magna Publishing is the subject’s country (India) ‘s largest private magazine group with a diverse and wide array of magazines, most notably STARDUST, SOCIETY, SAVVY, SHOWTIME, HEALTH & NUTRITION, SOCIETY INTERIORS, SOCIETY WORLD OF LUXURY, STARWEEK and CITADEL. Further Magna Publishing also has a books division, a DVD division and a film division producing movie under the banner of Magna Films. This link has clearly stated the subject of the article Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati as “Youngest patent holder of India”, “Youngest disabled patent holder of the World “. Further the article has stated the subject’s talent to be far beyond his age..Abstract that gives Child Prodigy Stimulus. Moreover this link also proves his importance in India. Please open the following link and open page 4-5 i.e. double page 4 and 5. http://www.magzter.com/preview_reader.php?edition_id=27262 Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 15:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected NeilN talk to me Sir: Please reconsider for the last time as a request from Mother of the subject then i will also quit Wikipedia forever from editing. I am not asking nor advocating. Just expecting a last reconsideration from your side sir. After that i will quit Wikipedia for ever from editing, disputes etc. That is a Gentlewoman promise to a Gentleman.
1. Child Prodigy List (Arts) under Creativity. + Wiki Project Child Prodigy + Category tag Child prodigy added. Respected Sir If it is not possible in Wikipedia Voice, Please mention the same, by naming media resources as lot of reliable media resources has mentioned at their own with out mentioning father. Please replace reference 10 by http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-in-school/wheelchairbound-chess-prodigy-invents-new-variant/article5132145.ece and you are invited to visit section 2 of this talk page. As these are very important from Child prodigy point of view and update of the article
2. Youngest Disabled Patent holder of the World. Respected Sir If it is not possible in Wikipedia Voice, Please mention the same, by naming media resources as lot of reliable media resources has mentioned at their own with out mentioning father.
3. His news is appearing frequently in India in last 2 years regularly. Moreover Sir i invite you to visit section 2 of the talk page of this article, which proves that Government of India considers the work of the subject as Intellectual property of the country. Further kind inspection for the references though i do not know how to judge their importance. But the following references has spoken very High about the subject that too in a detailed manner.
Therefore his importance for various Wiki Projects is also a concern
Regards Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 17:55, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
At least two sources that I checked, attribute the record claims to the child's father:
Shouldn't the wikipedia article do so too, or do we have independent verification of these records (ideally articles that are not profiles of the subject)? Abecedare (talk) 22:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: The Times of India clearly mentioned the subject as youngest patent holder of India in the following link, when the subject recieved prestigious ability award and that too with standing ovation. The exact words of " The Times of India" were "However, it was nine-year-old Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati who got the loudest applause in the auditorium which was choc-a-bloc as he belted lines from K'naan's 'Wavin' Flag'. Hridayeshwar, who was diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, a degenerative disorder affecting the use of his arms and legs, is the youngest patent holder in India as the inventor of circular chess."Italic text Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-10/chennai/37597886_1_duchenne-muscular-dystrophy-eminence-award Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: Reference 3 also clearly mentions the subject as Youngest Patent holder Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
NeilN talk to me Sir, did you forgot to see reference 3, before giving the statement,I went back in the archive (thanks for making me do that, BTW) and checked all the numerous (and redundant) sources given and you're right, all English sources make it clear it's his father's claim. Bold one is objectionable! Because reference 3 is already in the reliable reference list. Moreover you also agreed later on that this link one is a decent one. There might be many such resources which are out rightly turned down though they were reliable.Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 05:48, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence Patent Granted for 2, 3, 4, 6 Players Circular Chess (6 players): Open this link of Controller General of Patents (Government of India) and Put application number as 238319 and then Submit to know the Status/Evidence. http://ipindiaservices.gov.in/designapplicationstatus/designstatus.aspx 122.161.48.199 (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence Patent Granted for 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 Players Circular Chess (12 players): Open this link of Controller General of Patents (Government of India) and Put application number as 252967 and then Submit to know the Status/Evidence. http://ipindiaservices.gov.in/designapplicationstatus/designstatus.aspx 122.161.48.199 (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence Patent Granted for 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 14, 15, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, 42, 44, 45, 46, 48, 50, 51, 52, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 60 players Circular Chess (60 players): Open this link of Controller General of Patents (Government of India) and Put application number as 252966 and then Submit to know the Status/Evidence. http://ipindiaservices.gov.in/designapplicationstatus/designstatus.aspx 122.161.48.199 (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Ihardlythinkso (talk) Sir: Many words by you like " Bogus" etc on Chronic basis has discouraged me to participate further. I think we all must discuss and not dictate by insulting words Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 09:10, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Are you 100% sure that The above paragraph by you Ihardlythinkso (talk) Sir is a very good reply according to Wikipedia norms and in accordance with English language Sir. As far as mentioning " You and Your associates" is concerned I am the Mother of the Subject. May be i might be lacking in language (according to you sir) but i have not used the paragraph used by you sir.Anyway God Bless you. Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 10:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Abecedare (talk) Sir, if you require i will send all the 3 design patents for subject to Wikipedia under your guidance. Those patents are also having designs attached to them. Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 05:33, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: World’s youngest patent holder on Wheel Chair http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/jaipur-boy-builds-multi-player-chessboard/1/182580.html Evidence: Fathers name is Sarower Singh Bhati and he is National award winner of Mathematics http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/jaipur-boy-builds-multi-player-chessboard/1/182580.html Evidences: Youngest Patent holder of India http://www.abilityfoundation.org/cka_2013.html http://www.feminiya.com/hats-off-to-these-achievers-who-proved-their-mettle/ Rajiv Gandhi National University of Law, Punjab Intellectus Intelligit A FORTNIGHTLY E- NEWS LETTER ON INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND TECHNOLOGY LAWS http://www.rgnul.ac.in/Intellectus%20Intellegectum/Abhimanyu%20SIngh.htm More evidences will be Submitted Soon122.161.48.199 (talk) 04:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidences 4: Youngest Patent holder of India + Awarded
Achievers with disability honoured
http://www.chennaipatrika.com/post.aspx?id=2e618b27-5ec4-43dd-b9ff-3b2c09a0be19 122.161.48.199 (talk) 04:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence 5 : Youngest Patent holder India's contribution to World's Science Oxford Engineering College
Page 57 http://oxfordec.edu.in/documents/world_sci.pdf 122.161.48.199 (talk) 05:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Youngest Patent holder of India http://www.deccanherald.com/content/238473/9-yr-old-develops-circular.html 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Why invented 6 players Circular Chess http://www.bhaskar.com/article/MAG-play-chess-3176718.html 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: English Chess Forums http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4199 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: World’s youngest patent holder on Wheel Chair + Genius Rook who changed Chess Circles http://epaper.mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9&querypage=18&boxid=3522234&parentid=66228&eddate=Apr++1+2012+12%3A00AM&issuedate=NaNundefinedundefined 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Chess Sensation + World’s youngest patent holder on Wheel Chair + Genius http://epaper.mailtoday.in/showstory.aspx?queryed=9&querypage=3&boxid=51019828&parentid=66239&eddate=Apr++1+2012+12%3A00AM&issuedate=NaNundefinedundefined 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Video: Invents 6 players Chess http://www.myindiancolors.com/archives/37945 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: National News: Video: Invented 6 players Chess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDGgURPTvfs 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:02, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati being appreciated by NRI World wide and Quoted him as IMAGE OF INDIA on April 1st 2012 @ It is very important to mention that last three digits in link ie 220 will go on changing due to update but best way to find this status again is 1/4/2012 Date in the following link
http://www.nri-worldwide.com/index.cgi?images=220 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati being appreciated by NRI World wide on 30th March 2012 8.20pm @ It is very important to mention that last three digits in link ie 435 will go on changing due to update but best way to find this status again is 30/3/2012 Date and time 8.20 pm @ Following link
http://www.nri-worldwide.com/index.cgi?cat=8&o=435 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
RED FM SUPER STAR 93.5 Quoted Hridayeshwar as Super Star + Evidence Youngest patent holder also @ Following link
http://yourlisten.com/channel/content/128427/Hridayeshwar_at_93.5_RE 122.161.48.199 (talk) 07:30, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Youngest Patent holder on Wheel Chair
By Legal Studies Institute Universal Institute of legal studies:
http://www.unilawinstitute.com/news_apr2.asp 122.161.48.199 (talk) 09:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Evidence: Youngest Patent holder: Date 29th March 2012 (Following link)
Subject in General knowledge books of India (Following link)
http://www.goyalsgktimes.com/General-Knowledge-Current-Events-list.aspx?scid=2 122.161.48.199 (talk) 09:48, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Of what value is it for an encyclopedic article to read: "according to Bhati's father, is the youngest patent-holder in India."? (Is the father a recognized source for that kind of statistic? The father also claims his son to be "prodigy". Do we include in the article that opinion too?) Verifiability not hearsay, please! Ihardlythinkso (talk) 11:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Agreed with Ihardlythinkso (talk Of what value is it for an encyclopedic article to read: "according to Bhati's father, is the youngest patent-holder in India."? That too when we have reliable and verifiable resources for same. Already agreed by NeilN talk to me for this link one I think no need and use of bringing father in between Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 03:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Agreed with Ihardlythinkso (talk to 100% extent as he said "(Is the father a recognized source for that kind of statistic? The father also claims his son to be "prodigy". Do we include in the article that opinion too?) Verifiability not hearsay, please!" But the subject is a Child prodigy according to lot of reliable resources that too in their headlines. See references 2, references 6, and one reference not in your list http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-in-school/wheelchairbound-chess-prodigy-invents-new-variant/article5132145.ece and many other references are there. What is debatable about subject is not being Child prodigy but, " Why the subject is child prodigy? Further it is also debatable, where should be the subject put in the list of Child prodigy? But as far as Child prodigy is concerned, a lot has been discussed in reliable media resources that too in their own words without bringing father in between. Moreover the subject exists due to the primarily reason of " Reliable media resources". The answer to Why Subject Exists will the answer to the questions Why subject is Child prodigy and Why Subject is youngest patent holder? Why subject is youngest disabled patent holder of the World? Everything revolves around only one factor " Reliable Media Resources". Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 05:14, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Check any reliable reference in your list and that proves he is disabled.Ihardlythinkso (talk) That too the subject is on Wheel Chair, right from 6 years. Yes agreed with you that it is very difficult to analyse the claim but your words "The claim was bogus on its face" was not desirable. Just tell me where to send the Disability evidences for the subject, covering all aspects of disability ie Suffering from 65% disability that too permanent and progressive due to a fatal disease Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy.Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 04:06, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection Ihardlythinkso (talk) NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: I think Ihardlythinkso Sir has missed a reliable resource of "The Times of India" clearly mentioned the subject as youngest patent holder of India in the following link, when the subject received prestigious ability award and that too with standing ovation. Moreover The Times of India mentioned the subject as Youngest Patent holder of India. This link is not a case of Hearsay by Father. The exact words by " The Times of India" about the subject were "However, it was nine-year-old Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati who got the loudest applause in the auditorium which was choc-a-bloc as he belted lines from K'naan's 'Wavin' Flag'. Hridayeshwar, who was diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, a degenerative disorder affecting the use of his arms and legs, is the youngest patent holder in India as the inventor of circular chess."Italic text
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-10/chennai/37597886_1_duchenne-muscular-dystrophy-eminence-award Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection Ihardlythinkso (talk) NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: Reference 3 also clearly mentions the subject as Youngest Patent holder. I am very sorry to repeat my words again but i am doing so as i thought Ihardlythinkso Sir has missed the link by "The Times of India" for subject as Youngest patent holder of India. According to Ihardlythinkso Sir (Detailed Contribution) as followed, :"one way or another I still feel the text "according to Bhati's father,............... and single-purpose COI all over the place" ::There was no mention for " The Times of India" link Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Kind inspection for : Ihardlythinkso (talk) NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: Reference 1 Clearly writes "Before Bhati, Biplove Sharma at the age of 16 was the youngest patent holder. Kashyap Gopi got patent at the age of 17." I think Ihardlythinkso (talk) Sir: The answer to your one of the question lies in above words of Reference 1. These words of reference 1 can answer your words as followed "If so one would think they'd have the moxie to report in the article who the previous youngest patent holder was whose position was usurped because of Hridayeshwar's patent, since if they conducted that research they'd have had that info already at their fingertips. Reporting same in the article would have allowed them to write a more interesting and credible report, and I don't think that is expecting too much from a reliable source." Moreover Reference 1 is also giving a Hint of Verifiability also! by Head/Title as Youngest Patent holder where father is not mentioned. Moreover in these lines by " The Times of India", Reference 1 : " "Before Bhati, Biplove Sharma at the age of 16 was the youngest patent holder. Kashyap Gopi got patent at the age of 17." These are words of The Times of India and not father which leads to the subject as " Youngest Patent Holder of India" according to reference 1 also Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 08:29, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Respected Ihardlythinkso (talk) Thanks for accepting that you missed and now considering it a good reference. Please review and reconsider for rest of the resources. It is possible that you might have missed the text of bottom half of some more references or missed some reference suggested totally. Please for god sake go through all the all possible references and please recheck that this mistake is not repeated for other references. Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 10:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Do not Agree with NeilN talk to me to large extent but yes he is right in considering the following link as decent source. one And that proves the point.Further i also agree that few of the above mentioned resources were not up-to the mark but few of them were reliableDr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 03:25, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I feel that subject should be mentioned youngest patent holder of India as there are lot of reliable resources to prove the same, where media mentioned it not the father. Yes how many of them are reliable might be debatable topic but at least one of them is already accepted by NeilN talk to me and that link is one Which clearly mentioned the same Bold, highlighting, just below Headlines. In many cases the father said but there also media mentioned the subject in the headlines not mentioning the father. Reference 1. Many reliable media sources quoted in father words, and many reliable media resources quoted in their words for subject as, " Youngest Patent holder of India". Therefore the subject must be mentioned as youngest patent holder of India. Moreover reliable media sources must have followed " Verifiability not hearsay" rule in quoting fathers words as he is not a competent authority for same. There must be reliability of words by father therefore they quoted his words for subject. Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 04:45, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
NeilN talk to me Sir: I am trying my level best to speak truth, supported by facts. If it hurts some one or if it hurt an issue, i am sorry for same.Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 06:55, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: The Times of India clearly mentioned the subject as youngest patent holder of India in the following link, when the subject recieved prestigious ability award and that too with standing ovation. The exact words written in the news are "However, it was nine-year-old Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati who got the loudest applause in the auditorium which was choc-a-bloc as he belted lines from K'naan's 'Wavin' Flag'. Hridayeshwar, who was diagnosed with Duchenne muscular dystrophy, a degenerative disorder affecting the use of his arms and legs, is the youngest patent holder in India as the inventor of circular chess."Italic text http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-10/chennai/37597886_1_duchenne-muscular-dystrophy-eminence-award Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
For your inspection NeilN talk to me and Abecedare (talk) Sirs: Reference 3 also clearly mentions the subject as Youngest Patent holder Dr Meenakshi Kanwar (talk) 18:54, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
I've changed "is the youngest patent-holder in India" to "making him the youngest patent-holder in India at that time" - the sources seem to be framing this as "youngest Indian in a wheelchair ever, and youngest Indian right now", suggesting only that when he received the patent there were no younger patent holders (and that someone could have potentially received a patent at the age of 3, ten years ago, but they'd now be 13 and no longer "the youngest patent-holder in India"). --McGeddon (talk) 08:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi. To make the rules on your website complete, I have some suggestions:
p.s. If you ever produce this board for marketing, I'd also recommend against stark black & white squares, as these are the most eye-straining square colors possible for regular chess players (you'd find extremely few stark black & white chessboards in tournaments, for example). Since the army colors must be differently colored to distinguish between them (red, green, blue, yellow, etc.), I'd recommend board squares grey & off-white instead of black & stark white (less painful to eyes and setting off the piece colors, too). The board red areas are unused, so perhaps also a less prominent color for those areas (black! might be best). Good luck in your endeavors. Sincere, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 05:36, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
References:: [1],[2],[3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] 122.161.35.88 (talk) 06:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
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Please Update. No one updated the reference list nor the article! 122.161.81.240 (talk) 09:50, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
Respected Sir: "100 Chess Variants": This following line (Verbatim) is supported by following reliable resources: "Hridyeshwar Singh Bhati, who is wheelchair-bound because of the disease, has three patents for three types of circular chess boards to his name. The three boards collectively make 100 chess variants." [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] Regards Moreover Sir: Kind Attention for following references: Reliable reference list of article: Kind inspection please. [17] [18] Regards122.161.81.240 (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
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Reputed Newspaper of India "Rashtriya Sahara" covered the story of the subject, with the title " Youngest disable patent holder of the world".The news & cover story clearly mentioned the quote and words of American-Hungary Grand Master & 5 times Olympic champion & Chess legend "SUSAN POLGAR" about the subject. The news mentioned that SUSAN POLGAR quote about the subject is "His I.Q is far more than adults & He is rarest of rare talent".Italic text The news story also mentioned about his innovations & innovative ideas about 16x16 sudoku, 25x25 sudoku, Disaster free world project for U.N.O, True air conditioning concept etc, which is not covered by Wikipedia. Moreover this news can be additional evidence for existing content about the subject on Wikipedia. This link also gives evidence about the school & class of the subject. First & Youngest disable patent holder of the world.[1] [2] 122.161.67.81 (talk) 05:27, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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Subject was covered as News Story at National Level by ETV Rajasthan of ETV @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETV_Network) Owned by News 18 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_18 under Title @ बेमिसाल/Incredible - Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati Links @ Uploaded by ETV Rajasthan @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn6Kn_TklXY&t=240s Highlights of TV Show(News Story) of Incredible-Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati 1. Quoted as "Mini Stephen Hawkins of India" 2. Quoted as "Another Disability Icon after Stephen Hawkins & Wilma Rudolph" 3. Quoted as "Latest Global Inspiration" 4. Quoted as "Rarest of rare Child Prodigy in the field of Innovations" 182.64.177.185 (talk) 07:05, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Dainik_Bhaskar organised Rajasthan Ke Hunarbaaz contest to find out most talented person of Rajasthan. Subject won the contest in "Invention Category" The results of the contest were declared on 18th september 2018. Subject qualified in final Evidence = https://www.bhaskar.com/rajasthan/jaipur/news/on-september-18-31-finalists-will-be-among-the-best-for-the-titles-042139-2695248.html Subject won the contest Evidence = https://www.bhaskar.com/rajasthan/jaipur/news/title-of-title-of-rajasthan39s-best-talent-given-in-6-categories-042633-2761169.html 117.97.184.221 (talk) 05:26, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/yono-sbi-20-under-20-felicitates-indias-most-enterprising-youngsters/articleshow/67959532.cms [1] [2] 171.79.67.158 (talk) 09:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Subject was covered as News Story at National Level by ETV Rajasthan of ETV @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETV_Network) Owned by News 18 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_18 under Title @ बेमिसाल/Incredible - Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati Links @ Uploaded by ETV Rajasthan @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn6Kn_TklXY&t=240s Highlights of TV Show(News Story) of Incredible-Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati 1. Quoted as "Mini Stephen Hawkins of India" 2. Quoted as "Another Disability Icon after Stephen Hawkins & Wilma Rudolph" 3. Quoted as "Latest Global Inspiration" 4. Quoted as "Rarest of rare Child Prodigy in the field of Innovations"
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Subject was covered as News Story at National Level by ETV Rajasthan of ETV @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETV_Network) Owned by News 18 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_18 under Title @ बेमिसाल/Incredible - Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati Links @ Uploaded by ETV Rajasthan @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn6Kn_TklXY&t=240s Highlights of TV Show(News Story) of Incredible-Hridayeshwar Singh Bhati 1. Quoted as "Mini Stephen Hawkins of India" 2. Quoted as "Another Disability Icon after Stephen Hawkins & Wilma Rudolph" 3. Quoted as "Latest Global Inspiration" 4. Quoted as "Rarest of rare Child Prodigy in the field of Innovations"
More Ignored Links for Subject (Recent + Verifiable + Notable + Reputed + Authentic) 1. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/yono-sbi-20under20-bats-for-indias-youngest-differently-abled-heroes/articleshow/67630401.cms 2. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/company/corporate-trends/yono-sbi-20-under-20-felicitates-indias-most-enterprising-youngsters/articleshow/67959532.cms 3. https://twitter.com/theofficialsbi/status/1093487022906343424 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wER5C4GMssQ 5. https://www.facebook.com/StateBankOfIndia/photos/a.513178328732970/2252343654816420/?type=3&theater 6. https://www.instagram.com/p/BtlKR50l8pX/ 7. https://twitter.com/arjunk26/status/1093949986440568832 8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tepzIWyLGe8 9. https://www.issuewire.com/inspires-world-disabled-child-prodigy-takes-india-to-top-in-world-for-chess-variants-inventions-1614822751898693 10. Page 6 https://aim.gov.in/pdf/What_is_Intellectual_Property.pdf 11. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/yono-sbi-20under20-bats-for-indias-youngest-differently-abled-heroes/articleshow/67630401.cms 12. https://www.bhaskar.com/rajasthan/jaipur/news/title-of-title-of-rajasthan39s-best-talent-given-in-6-categories-042633-2761169.html 13. https://www.visiteiffel.com/media/BtlKR50l8pX-congratulations-hridayeshwarsinghbhati-on-winning.html 117.97.172.243 (talk) 03:20, 23 February 2019 (UTC)