A fact from Fair Work Ombudsman v Quest South Perth appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 29 January 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that an Australian High Court case found a hotel chain to have used third-party contractors to avoid paying employees their required benefits?
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Comment: * I am very welcome to suggestions for a different hook. The facts in summary are: a hotel tried to convince three employees to sign an agreement to work as contractors. This deprived them of their minimum entitlements. This sort of arrangement is called 'sham contracting' in australia. I do not love my hook. Proposed amendments welcome.
Moved to mainspace by MaxnaCarta (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 3 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fair Work Ombudsman v Quest South Perth; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]
New enough, long enough. ALT1 short enough, interesting, and sourced AGF; might be worth naming the case but I'll let the prepbuilder decide that. Every paragraph ends with a cite. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, no valid copyright complaints. QPQ done. Let's roll.--Launchballer09:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Picking up and beginning this review. Thank you for improving and expanding this article @MaxnaCarta. Since I am still new to GA reviewing an experienced reviewer will also be taking a look. I should have some initial comments in the next 48 hours. KwanFlakes (talk) 12:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay @MaxnaCarta, I’ve had a couple of major things come up this week so will be unable to get to this properly until after the weekend. Thanks for your patience! KwanFlakes (talk) 15:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all the work you've done @MaxnaCarta. I've made a few more minor changes and am ready for another reviewer to do a double-check. You should receive another update once that process is complete. Not long now! KwanFlakes (talk) 06:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the first paragraph of the Background section it is unclear whether the prohibition is contained in div 6 or s 357. While I can see from the legislation that all of div 6 (ss 357–359) relates to this, it could be good to clarify.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is part 3, division 6. Within which, is section 357. I re-wrote this to state: Section 357 of the Fair Work Act 2009 (the Act) prohibits an employer from misrepresenting employment as an independent contracting arrangement — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
”Protections, rights, and conditions” is a little vague, especially after what appears to be a similar sentence in the lead. I feel that it could be worth going into a little more detail about the NES here.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added: This would include the provisions within the National Employment Standards, a set of eleven minimum entitlements for employees in Australia, in addition to the minimum wage. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the second paragraph of the Background section, ((tq|“with the benefit of this being that they would be no longer entitled to the protections, rights, and conditions of Australian labour laws” seems to say that they would be stripped of all protections as contractors, as opposed to most of them. Perhaps reword to clarify.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Similar issue to the above with the line “without disclosing the disadvantages of losing their workplace rights” in the next paragraph, though less concerned with this instance than the other. Still likely worth rewording or reworking somehow.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m not sure how necessary or widespread definition markers like “(the Act)”, “(the Ombudsman)”, “(the Federal Court)”, or “(High Court)” are, especially as only one of each of these is referred to throughout.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stops me repeating "The Fair Work act 2009 or Fair Work Ombudsman, or The Federal Court of Australia, over and over. The markers are less for definition, and more an abbreviation of sorts to keep the overall word count lower and the text clearer. Happy to change if you foresee their use as a barrier. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had a concern about Bromberg J being referred to in text by the nickname “Mordy” rather than “Mordecai”, however I can see that that’s oddly the name of his page on the wiki, so I guess it doesn’t matter? Seems a bit odd to me.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think that it might actually be best to refer to the judges only by their surname anyway, as is the case in Dietrich v The Queen. There the full names are listed in the infobox but references to judges in-text are only by surname. KwanFlakes (talk) 08:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could it be worth either renaming the section titled “Federal Court case” to something like “Federal Court case and first appeal” or “Federal Court cases”? Splitting the section into two seems like an option, but they would be very short. I feel that this is necessary to clearly delineate the case history in the article.KwanFlakes (talk) 08:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After re-reading the article a few times, I will have to say it is very well written. All sources are reliable, no neutrality issues, no copyright issues, stable, fairly broad without going into unnecessary detail. I agree with many of KwanFlake’s copyedits. I will say that independent contractor should be linked the first time it appears in the background second and unlink the second time it appears. Also add some more links in the lead (labor hire, independent contractors, full bench). Also link Chief Justice French in the last section. Other than that, I wonder would it be possible to include some sort of “reactions” section in the article? Such a section is quite common in these types of articles. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 15:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d I have actioned the links. I actually don't know of any significant coverage where the reactions were covered. Hoping the article as it stands meets the core standards to pass GA. Thanks to both! — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall well-written and close to meeting this requirement. See comments provided above. Happy with the changes made and content that this criterion has now been met.
Spot check of references: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 10, 11. All good. NOR complied with. Copyvio shows 45.9% but I'm satisfied that it has only picked up quotes also published elsewhere, and no copyright violation has occurred.
One public domain image and one licensed under CC. Caption is suitable.
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