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Are there any campaigns to raise the age that you are allowed to join the armed forces? Personally, I think you shouldn't be allowed to go on active service in a war zone until you are 21 atleast. You can't drink in some states until 21, so why should you be allowed to murder 'the enemy' at 16? Ethoen 18:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
To the above statement. Can I please make the point that we are talking about the 'British Army", not the US Army. Therefore, the mention of states is irrelevant. The discussion page is also to debate how the information on the page can be made as accurate as possible, not to discuss opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Treben (talk • contribs) 20:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure theres a campaign somewhere by someone to raise the joining age, but its definitely not in the public eye. You cant drink in some US states until 21, I think here in the UK its 18 everywhere, and IIRC you aren't sent into a war zone until you are 18. The youngest British soldier killed in Iraq so far has been 18, so I guess that might be true. See here RHB 19:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
He made the same offensive remakrs on the US army page, with the same bad info: You can't join the US army until 17 (with approval) or 18 (normally). ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 19:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Am i being daft here? surely it's Lieutenant?
Is there a source for the assertion about the reason for the lack of "Royal" in the name of the British Army? - Khendon
Sorry, I was unclear :-) The *current* assertion is based on the very URL you quote; I changed the article to reflect it shortly after I made the above Talk comment. - Khendon
I had always believed that the British Army had no 'Royal' prefix as it has fought against the King in the English civil war? SGoat 05:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I know the history section is supposed to be concise and directs to a main article, but giving the Napoleonic Wars and the Crimean War less than two lines hardly seems proportionate considering their significance in the British Army's history. Also the Boer War doesn't even get a mention.
Is this section really necessary? It's incredibly subjective. All units are notable to those who served in them. The Black Watch, for instance, is actually no more or less notable than any other infantry regiment. It just happens to have been in the news recently. -- Necrothesp 21:36, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the lists under "See Also", which I think is more appropriate; and also taken out the "Notable", which isn't really necessary. --Khendon 07:11, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I suggest we wait until it gets infeasibly big, and then hive it off to a "list" page --Khendon 17:27, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I re-wrote much of the article, as the old version was difficult to read, and widely inconsistent. Main changes are: - expanded history section based on definitive eras - added templates and images - added table of current deployments - added table on current manpower/weaponary - new structure section - link to a History of the British Army article, which would be useful to create Astrotrain 21:05, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
I am working on various issues, please do not subst the template, I dont have time to explain all details, just leave it alone, thank you. -- Cat chi? 11:50, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion here with regard to the history of the English army rather than the British army. The Bill of Rights is English statute passed by the English Parliament and had no bearing in Scotland at that time. The English & Scottish Parliaments ceased to exist in 1707 and the new British parliament took control of the army in England and Scotland i.e. the British Army.
The picture showing the 'British army in the falklands' is actually of royal marines, who are not part of the british army!
I note no mention of the commonly held belief that its not called the Royal Army because there was one and it lost. Yearly renewal shows this is a Parliamentary Army! ;) Morwen - Talk 23:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
I stumbled across FV109 Workhorse today, an APC that seems only to exist as a vague comment here and on a lot of our mirrors. Paper sources don't mention it. Anyone have any ideas? Shimgray | talk | 01:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
The United States Army recently changed the restrictions on tattoos to increase recruitment numbers. What are the restrictions for joining the British Army, are soliders allowed to have tattos? How about if they are on prescription drugs, one of my friends was told he couldn't join the US Army why he was still on ritalin for his ADHD, is it the same in the UK? Edward 10:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Currently, the equpiment section is a mess. It includes old equipment that is no longer in service, duplicates that are already described in the article on Modern Equipment and is missing some important stuff (NBC related equipment for example).
I propose that this page include only links to primary equipment such as the Challenger 2, the Warrior APC, the SA80, GPMG, LSW etc. and links to the Modern Equipment page and a Historic Equipment page.
It might also be worth displaying the equipment links in tables to reduce the length of the page. I've created an example here. The significant drawback with this is that maintaining tables is a good deal more difficult than maintaining lists.
Let me know what you think. Rob cowie 12:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I have made a couple of changes to the equipment tables, however more work is needed. It seems to me that the simplest solution is to link it to the Modern Equipment page and work on ensuring that is up to date. Any thoughts?--Mlongcake 11:36, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Does the rank of Private 4th class truly exist in the British Army? And I don't think that Warrant officer class 2 conductor is a different Italic textrankItalic text from Warrant officer class 2.
Worth mentioning the plethora of titles given to (to start with, anyway) the private soldier; Rifleman, Kingsman, Ranger, Guardsman, Gunner, Trooper, Private, Gurkha and so on and so forth. And that's before the whole Household Division thing with Lance-Corporals of Horse, Lance Sergeants and Foot Guards Lance Corporals wearing 2 chevrons from the off. --Thebigman 17:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Private 4th class doesnt exist. pay goes up in tandem with length service and/or promotion, so it is possible that one private could be paid more than another, but OR-1 and OR-2 are the same rank. I'm correcting this. Lots of Love, Tim
It still is, its the most senior WO1 rank in the British Army; there are apparently 17 (as of 2003)TheMongoose
It was actually formerly an appointment within the Royal Army Ordnance Corps. -- Necrothesp 18:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Why the hell have the enlisted rankings been replace with Thai army enlisted rankings? I smell a bit of vandilism here.
The rank of grade 4 Private (referred to as grades rather than classes) did exist before Pay 2000 was introduced. There used to be 4 grades of private with grade 4 for a soldier in training, grade 3 upon completion of Phase 2 training, grade 2 12 months after completing phase 2 and grade 1 a further 12 months after that and upon completing a grade 2-1 cadre. As stated, this has been completely replaced with a new system which has 7 grades for private and is based on a time served approach for your grades. Please note that these were only used for pay purposes and not as a form of rank (although in many units you would only be eligible for promotion to LCPL if you were a grade 1 private. This no longer exists under the new system.) See here for the latest breakdown in pay for ORs. [1] Vance2038 15:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know how many members of today's British Army were born in the Republic and Northern Ireland respectively? El Gringo 18:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The article attributes the taking of Bagram Airbase to the S.A.S., an army regiment. I understood it to have been taken by the S.B.S., a marine (and hence naval) unit, e.g. see Wikipedia articles on the S.B.S and Bagram. --Countersubject 21:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
The Royal Marines are part of the Royal Navy, and are not just 'considered' to be so. So why include one of their campaigns in an article on the British Army? That said, it might be a good idea to have a short paragraph on infantry units that are not part of the army (Royal Marines, SBS, RAF Regiment), with links to the appropriate articles. Countersubject 13:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
The Bell 212 does serve with the Army in the army flight in Brunei. Who ever is deleting this should stop and look at the army website where the aircraft is listed. King Konger 21:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm no historian, but is it correct to refer to William and Mary as "usurping" the English throne? According to Wikipedia's William and Mary page, "they were called to the throne by Parliament, replacing James II, who was 'deemed to have fled' the country in the Glorious Revolution of 1688." To use the word "usurp" implies that they seized power without legal authority. Whether it was legal is admittedly debatable; but it was Parliament that put them there, and not William & Mary themselves. Haydn01 15:16, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
The recent conflicts section is pretty garbled, the various headers don't seem to bear much resemblance to the content. I'll tweak with it a little but the following points apply:
Would someone be able to adjust the formatting so that the pictures in the "flags and ensigns" section do not overlap the table below? I would do it myself but I am too stupid to work out how :) 130.246.132.26 15:50, 12 October 2006 (UTC) (alihaig))
Done Rob cowie 10:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
"The British Government's attempt to mollify the Natives by delineating the Appalachians as the westward limit for European settlement was the primary motivator of the American colonies in launching the secessionist American War of Independence."
...This is not what they teach us in the States. An attribution would be appropriate.
I see the BV206 has been added to Equipment section. I didn't know the army had this vehicle. The Royal Marines have recently deployed a variant, the Viking (BVS10). Does anyone know if the army has the 206 or one of its variants? Countersubject 18:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, the Army doesn't have any at present, but will operate a variant from about 2010 as transport for the Watchkeeper UAV. See:
At some point, it should probably be put back into the eqiupment section with appropriate caveat. Rob cowie 12:38, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
The article states that the British Army has its roots in the armies of England and Scotland. It would be good to have something on Irish and Welsh regiments, especially since up to 1801 Ireland was a seperate Kingdom. Countersubject 16:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
"From the late 18th to the mid 20th centuries, the United Kingdom was one of the major military and economic powers of the world. "
I think some clarification is required. Raymond Palmer 21:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi, in several articels about different units you can see a Tactical Recognition Flash, but there is no article about what it mean or what it is good for. would be nice to read something about it. cu AssetBurned 22:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
"What it is good for" - Recognising units, tactically ;)TheMongoose
Why this article just talk about the military victories of UK and not their losses.
Surely the Troop numbers in Iraq need amending- they are currently around 5000 and due to fall to 3500 at the end of this year. Rob 11:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Territorial Army soldiers are known as Terriers or "weekend warriors", STABS or the SAS (saturdays and sundays).
I've removed the above statement as it is inaccurate and more than a little insulting. Territorial Soldiers go by the same nicknames as their Regular conterparts. The only exception is to sometimes label them as "Territorials" and Regular soldiers as "Regulars" (strange that) when differentiating the two. "Terriers" is an historical nickname and hasn't been used for years. However, the nicknames do exist, but are used in an insulting context. Perhaps the place to put them would be in an Army Insults section including other phrases such as ARAB, REMF, Them, Biff, etc. Or perhaps not.
Vance2038 14:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I heard new APCs were being bought from the Americans called 'Mastiffs'. Could someone who can edit well research and correct, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Racooon (talk • contribs) 09:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I've removed this. I don't think its of much use on this particular page. On historical reenactment perhaps. For this page, a bunch of chaps dressed up in colonial era uniforms next to a a couple of people in modern dress just looks silly. Jooler 23:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
If there are no objections, I'm going to go through this article with a fine tooth comb. For the record, it is at an OK standard, but contains very few reliable references, hence the addition of :refimprove by me. In addition, it needs some more work on its grammar and spelling. I would appreciate it if this didn't become a revert war - as so many military themed articles do on WP - assume good faith at all times. Gormenghastly 17:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Folks! Jhfireboy is leading the work on the British Army Portal, which I think is extremely worthwhile stuff. I will be canvassing offsite to round up some more serving soldiers to assist, and if you need to ask where I'm coordinating that then you shouldn't be editing this page! :)
If anyone is genuinely interested in helping out with this, could they please let Jhfireboy know and we can start working towards FA and all those good things! Cheers! Gormenghastly 20:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Are the 2015 figures really the most recent ones for the strength of the British Army? JezGrove (talk) 19:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Why are there no figures in the British Army strength table for the interwar years? SpinningSpark 16:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)