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This article seperately names "Bim-Bom" and "Chega de Saudade" as the first Bossa Nova song. >>The first bossa nova song was titled "Bim-Bom". Later.. >>The first bossa nova song, "Chega de Saudade," They can't both be the first. A fairer account would be that BimBom is the earliest known Bossa Nova compoisition, whist Chega is the first recorded Bossa Nova song.
This page needs an embedded music example if people feel it's appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.202.1.193 (talk) 16:07, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Absolutely -- NEEDS audio samples to demo the diff with samba, etc. sheesh ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.203.66.118 (talk) 17:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
How many lyrics can be displayed without violating copright?
If someone would like to fix the image for me, I can't get it right and must sleep now.Hyacinth
I'm not sure what the problem is, but anyway, I've trimmed it and reuploaded as a PNG: Image:Basic bossa nova guitar rhythm.PNG Both of the above images are BMPs -- Tarquin 09:37, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC) Yes, trimming would have been part of the problem, thanks for that. The picture actually won't display on my computer, and I would have no idea why. Hyacinth 09:41, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC) Hey whats the easiest way to create an image of music anyways, becuase I'd like to add some music on several pages. Nathan Wonnacott 01:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
This text was added to the page Bossa Nova (dance) but it is not about dance. I don't know enough about it to integrate it into this page smoothly.
To some extent djs like Mark Farina have used the bossa nova sound on their mix cds to form part of the mushroom jazz sound. Other artist that are more identified with the bossa som beat are Nicola Conte, Pablo Casiguez, Ranier Truby Trio, Bossa Nostra, Paul Emetrez, Vegas Lounge, Jazzanova..." Rmhermen 21:46, May 25, 2004 (UTC)
Only one reference given, which isn't even an inline citation, doesn't even indicate whether it even references the article at all, much less references it well, which is a requirement for Good Article status. Great expansion of references will be necessary. Homestarmy 19:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I was reading this article and although I'm a Pixies fan it just doesn't make sense to put Bossanova in the external links. The album has no meaningful reference to Bossa Nova (except the verse "I want to bossanova with you" - from memory). And the album is already listed in the disambiguation page.
"Significant in Brazil, but not as popular there as it was in the United States, Western Europe, and Japan." That's the greatest stupidity I've ever read in Wikipedia. Bossa Nova is clearly more popular in Brazil than anywhere else. Changed. --El Chemaniaco 14:46, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
"To this day in Brazil, the word "bossa" when used alone can still be a reference to "style" or "flair", as it was in the days when "bossa nova" was created." There's no need for a citation here. El Chemaniaco 14:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The sentence about the first Bossa single makes that claim for "Girl from Ipanema". While that was a smash in the United States, making lots of people aware of Bossa Nova for the first time, Stan Getz had an American hit single two years before with "Desafinado" (according to allmusic.com). And Caetano Veloso has talked about the impact on Brazilian musicians of João Gilberto's first single ca. 1959, 'Chega de Saudade.' Not to split hairs, but while "Girl from Ipanema" can be described as the first American bossa nova hit featuring a vocal, it's not the genre's first single, in America or elsewhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.85.228.129 (talk) 20:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC). That's not splitting hairs, and it doesn't even hold the distinction of being the first vocal bossa nova single in the U.S., unless one insists on the authenticity of a Brazilian musician's involvement. "The Girl from Ipanema" reach the American top 15 in July, 1964, and was preceded by three top-15 singles which actually included "bossa nova" in their titles: "Bossa Nova Baby" by Elvis Presley in November 1963; "Fly Me to the Moon, Bossa Nova" by Joe Harnell and "Blame It on the Bossa Nova" by Eydie Gorme, both February 1963. I'm inclined to edit the statement out, or correct around it, but it is so well embedded in the surrounding text that it's difficult. Any suggestions? Fcgier (talk) 01:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
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Dear moderators, Please take a deep breath and go to this page http://www.bitencourt.net/en/5-bossa/index.html Now please tell me in the name of God: is this page spam, yes or no??? It's a unique slideshow about Bossa Nova with many rare photos of artists which you won't find anywhere else on the internet and with important information about this musical movement!!! I'm a brazilian musician, expert in Bossa Nova, and know what I'm talking about. So please, not because you have the power to delete or block things here you should do this all the time just because it may be fun or so. 1. Inform yourself about Bossa Nova 2. Visit this page 3. Compare 4. See that it's for God's sake NOT spam!!! If you delete this link again then know that YOU and not me are destroying the wikipedia idea, just because you think you have the power to delete things. Bossa Nova is my life and I want the world to know as much as possible about it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.17.64.245 (talk • contribs).
Please stop removing Gal Costa's name from the list. Like it or not, Bossa Nova is, and always has been part of her repertoire. In fact, during her appearances in the United States (spanning 30+ years), she has sung nothing but Bossa Nova. I would suspect the same is probably true for her concerts in Japan and Israel, too, or at least a large part of those concerts. Consequences2 02:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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It'd be great if someone would create, or at least start, a general article with notated (and, ideally, audio) examples of the major Latin rhythms, each of which could link to specific articles about it. It seems like such an obvious idea, but I've never seen anything like this anywhere. There are so many wonderful Latin American rhythms, and traditions associated with them---but this very richness can baffle even professional musicians, many of whom don't even know a samba from a bossa nova. A "master" article like this would be a valuable resource and starting point for anyone who wanted to understand what distinguished these rhythms from each other, and to learn more about them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SomeAvailableName (talk • contribs) 23:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
The old list of bossa nova standards was just merged&redirected to (the now fully-referenced) List of jazz standards (per discussion at talk). You may wish to incorporate a small/referenced part of the old/new lists in this article. Just a note. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
"Bossa Nova" does not translates to portuguese as "new trend". "New trend" in portuguese is "novas tendências". "Bossa" means literally hump or protuberance in portuguese. "Bossa" was also used in the old days as a synonymous to the word craft/hability (a slang not used anymore). And the word "Nova" means new. Hence, Bossa Nova = New Hability, New Craft. Bossa Nova = Novo jeito de fazer musica which means Bossa Nova = A new way to do music.(link here:[1]) Thats the meaning behind the word formation, but the word itself does not have any special meaning in Portuguese. Bossa Nova is an invented expression it doesn't have any meaning other than refering to a genre of music. Its like a play of words that put together the word "New" and "Bossa". So saying that the word Bossa Nova has a meaning in the Portuguese language is incorrect. Bossa Nova means Bossa Nova an expression that refers to a genre of music. The lede of the article should be corrected. Tacv (talk) 04:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
The "Structure" section defines explains how to play bossa rhythm on a guitar:
This description seemed a little cumbersome, but when I notated it out it does look like the basic bossa nova pattern I learned from my guitar teacher once, and at least more or less like what Jobim or Gilberto would play on the guitar.
But the "Bossa nova rhythm" given in notation near the top of the article is a pretty different rhythm, at least at first glance. To me it sounds less like a bossa guitar part and closer to being a clave rhythm.
Is there a contradiction here? Can both rhythms be bossa nova? Maybe the two rhythms are supposed to be played by different instruments, the one on guitar and the other on percussion?
--Ryguasu (talk) 22:12, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
The URL for "History of the Bossa Nova" by Brazilian musician Paulo Bitencourt has changed to (new domain) http://music-photo.org/en/bossa-nova (content of the page remains the same). Old domain will expire soon and page will become unavailable if link is not changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.113.209.51 (talk) 13:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Thievery Corporation? Really? I admire the musical tastes of two guys creating electronic music in Washington DC, but they don't really play this musical genre, they're influenced by it; that's different.
Their don't really play the guitar, drums and other instruments as described in this article -for most of their music-, and their latests stuff 'Saudade' doesn't count. Whoever put the duo here clearly doesn't know what bossa nova sounds like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.233.212 (talk) 22:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)