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The recently reported action figure idea may worth mentioning.[1] --Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs) 01:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Will this be covered? It's getting major reporting. 67.170.86.33 (talk) 02:39, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Of course this won't be covered - this page is being scrubbed by his campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.72.100 (talk) 14:26, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
See the records that were released to the AP here: Greene's military records If you look at the bottom of the document on page 3, that is Greene's DD-214 with reason and narrative for separation. Greene was separated under the provisions of Army Regulation 635-200, paragraph 5-17 which states, in part: "…separation under this paragraph on the basis of other physical or mental conditions not amounting to disability…Such conditions may include, but are not limited to— …Section 9: Other disorders manifesting disturbances of perception, thinking, emotional control or behavior sufficiently severe that the Soldier’s ability to effectively perform military duties is significantly impaired. Soldiers with 24 months or more of active duty service may be separated under this paragraph based on a diagnosis of personality disorder…"
Here is the regulation so one can read paragraph 5-17 in its entirety: Army Regulation 635-200
I'm not sure how the AP overlooked this, but this should actually be reported rather than "honorable but involuntary" discharge. Is this document enough to edit the article to reflect it? Atlantabravz (talk) 19:51, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Is the incident with McCoy considered such an important thing that it's said three times over, successively? That's how the article currently reads. Uncle G (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Stop removing the Alvin Greene image from the article! I have an email from Keiana Page in South Carolyna Democratic Party, granting Wiki rights to use the picture under ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. I already posted it to Commons and the Alvin's picture was approved, but then someone keep deleting it. I can forward the copy of the email to registered Wiki users, if you really need the proof. Even if you do not like Alvin, he is still an interesting political fenomen, rasing very serious questions about America world highest incarceration rate affecting 2.3 millios of people in prisons, so he deserve his place in Wikipedia. Innab (talk) 19:53, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Please explain why you think the incarceration chart is relevant to the Alvin Greene article. Thank you. JTRH (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
He strongly promoted idea of the reforms in judicial system to make sure that punishment fits the crime, i.e. that the severity of penalty for a misdeed or wrongdoing should be reasonable and proportionate to the severity of the infraction. He said that first-time non-violent offenders should have a chance to go into pre-trial intervention programs, instead of going to jail. “Fairness saves us money,” he said in an interview. “There are innocent people incarcerated. We spend more than two times of our taxpayer dollars on inmates than on students.”
however, the graph adds nothing to that. something Innab said above may reveal why he keeps re-inserting the graph:
Even if you do not like Alvin
. Innab, i do not think anyone here is removing that graph because of a personal dislike for him. the graph is not relevant, and that was my thought when i encountered it in this article. it is simply out of place. Badmachine (talk) 02:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Most of the material in this article is no longer relevant since the election is over. The campaign coverage can be placed within the article on the election, and the personal information about him can be summarized in far less detail than what's in here. At the very least, the verb tenses need to be copy-edited and changed to past tense where appropriate. JTRH (talk) 13:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
There's a youtube video of Alvin Greene saying that "DeMint caused the recession" - talking about the GFC.
Why isn't there a section on this? DeMint didn't cause the recession. 0 economists think so. The recession was caused by many things, and one of them wasn't the way DeMint spent South Carolina's money. Is Greene really asserting that the way DeMint spent one state's taxes somehow has to do with faulty tranche ratings, 47:1 leverage ratios, huge amounts of non-systematic risk on bank's balance sheets and (debatably) low FED rates which caused misappropriation of funds towards CDOs and predatory lending (under the Austrian view). Are you ****** kidding me? First, why haven't the media absolutely crucified Greene? Secondly, why hasn't the Democtrat party condemned Greene for saying something that has 0 basis in fact? Downright lying to the most uneducated/brainwash-prone of South Carolina's voters (those that will accept the lie because they have no knowledge of economics or are simply fanatics of one party and will believe anything) isn't good for democracy or the political process.
Yours truly, An economist from Sydney, Australia. IP trace this post if you don't believe me. I have nothing to do with Republicans, Democrats, or South Carolina's politics. I have nothing to do with American politics whatsoever. I just felt utterly compelled to post this after watching this video. I was truly shocked. Literally, I didn't know what to think.
I've added: "Greene also appeared in a Youtube video of over 100,000 views wherein he repeatedly asserts that his political opponent, Jim Demint, was "responsible for the recession", in reference to the global financial crisis, and that it was Demint's expenditures that played a significant role in causing the recession. He asserts this despite the economic consensus to the contrary: that it was caused by events completely exogenous to the domestic fiscal expenditures of South Carolina."
I've read over 20 articles on the GFC, I am a macroeconomist by training, and as you can predict, one state's fiscal expenditures have literally ZERO to do with the causes of the global financial crisis. This is just ludicrous that I feel like I have to waste my time on this.
I weep for humanity. Someone that thinks that the way someone spent one state's money caused the global financial crisis of '07-'10 is actually running for US senate. Wow. Utterly flabberghasted.
Please rewrite this section. There are too many "He supported..." without any transitions. It is very hard to read. --William S. Saturn (talk) 00:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I did really enjoy some of the more humorous sentences but this article doesn't read like an encyclopedia article. It seems intentional. Although it also seems difficult to present some pieces of information in an artful way. The sentence about no economists believing Jim DeMint caused the recession is especially suspect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.196.60 (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
"...paid the $165 filing fee on Christmas Eve to run in a special election for the House seat left vacant by the death this month of Summerton Democrat Rep. Cathy Harvin."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/27/failed-senate-candidate-alvin-greene-trying-south-carolina-house-seat/?test=latestnews Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:48, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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The way I see it, the Senate campaign is the only notable thing Greene has been involved in so we are free to apply Wikipedia:BLP1E and merge into 2010 United States Senate election in South Carolina. We don't need a separate article for things like Greene being disoriented one night in 2013 or "unable to express thoughts clearly [better source needed]" in the Army. How about it? Haukur (talk) 10:15, 22 October 2020 (UTC)