- Your block of Giano was for an indefinite period, accompanied by this talk page notice. It was described as a "request to bend over backwards" and that you were acting as an "über-admin," but you described it as "offer to return to productive editing under conditions." Were your actions reasonable and appropriate? Would you post such a notice to an editor now?
At the time, I believe they were. While Giano has since seriously mellowed out, his behaviour during that period was – put simply – calculated to be as offensive and denigrating as possible against anyone he precieved as part of a cabal.
- Because there was a bloody cabal with you mate RLevse in the thick of it abusing oversight because he was so stupid didn't realise that he shared his name with Randy in Boise [1]! So stick that were the sun doesn't shine Coren, and don’t tell me that I have mellowed because where you and your mates abusing their powers are concerned; I am as vigilant as ever. So stop your smug lies right now, or I will dig up a lot more of the buried past. Giano (talk) 16:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Exactly what I meant.
- (ii) Do you still claim that, while he was an active editor, Giano had "driven away uncountable productive editors"? If so, what evidence would you have offered to support this claim, had the case been accepted? (Question by Ed Chem)
Yes. If I did not sincerely believe that claim, I would not have made it – let alone open a case on its basis.
No, I'm not going to start compiling evidence or dredge up this matter from the gutter at this time. Dragging up past ills and trying to create drama over history is exactly part of what I felt was one of Giano's worst behaviour problems and I'm certainly not going to indulge it in myself.
You make slanderous allegations against me (we will discount the paranoia ones because presumably I am imagining the one above) but lets have just a few of the 'uncountable productive editors' or are are you going to take the high moral and refuse because as everyone knows, you actually cannot! The truth is that you are a liar and a disgrace to the Arbcom. Giano (talk) 12:52, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Your comments, and the above comment in particular, is extremely uncivil. I would urge you to withdraw it and apologize. Surely you can express yourself in a more civil manner?OrangesRyellow (talk) 13:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- No, I don't think I will. Coren is pretty uncivil too, although he may dress it up in mealy mouthed language. Giano (talk) 13:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- On Wikipedia, I think it is OK to be frank as long as you can be frank using a bit of diplomacy (avoid saying things in a piercing/trenchant manner). What you do is up to you, but it seems that with comments like those, you have absolved Coren from proving his side of the narrative. You seem to have made his/her case. Best.OrangesRyellow (talk) 13:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Obviously a sock, troll or both so piss off before Coren carries out one of his infamous checkusers. Giano (talk) 14:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I rest my case.OrangesRyellow (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]