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suspend and temp desysop[edit]

I'm not really sure there's anything else you can do. Valereee (talk) 20:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is frustrating, but there aren't a lot of other options if the admin refuses to participate. The lesser of two evils. Dennis Brown 21:47, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like WP:SUPERMARIO strikes again 🤷‍♂️ RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 21:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For me, the best outcome would be an indefinite topic ban for RUSUKR, but I fully understand why the arbs do not want to make this call. Hopefully, if they lose the bit but continue the same behaviour it will be easier to get a topic ban by usual channels.—-Ymblanter (talk) 04:31, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse this decision. I will also endorse desysopping measures. The constant out of the blue incivility and combativeness of Mzajac that I already knew coupled with their lack of accountability despite their admin status by disappearing completely during this whole process makes me lose any will I could have had for defending them at the start of this case. It is particularly worrying to me to find out that this is apparently a strategy that they've employed before. The topic area will lose a good logical argumentator but will also become calmer now. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It would be too bold to say that this would make the topic area more pleasant and significantly less toxic, but at least this is a good step in this direction. Ymblanter (talk) 13:04, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While the majority for doing so has been reached, the case hasn't been suspended yet, Mzajac hasn't yet been temporarily desysopped and – as Sdrqaz pointed out – the Workshop hasn't formally closed yet. I'm personally fine with this decision and it is convenient to me – but topic-banning a case party during the active case, with the content of the case's evidence page as the only justification, is... a bit bold. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:49, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The justification is the diffs on the evidence page, rather than the evidence page itself, but yeah, it was pretty bold. I did a lot of reading ahead to time to make sure I wasn't actually crossing any bright lines and seeing none I figured I'd cut the gordian knot. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only procedural note to be made, I think, is that after a year, the ban becomes reversible by any other administrator (Wikipedia:Contentious topics § Changing or revoking a contentious topic restriction) – this may be obvious to you and others, but it's relatively new. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]