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Hi, I publish several Web sites that are information portals. One of them is Travelconsumer.com http://www.travelconsumer.com which contains travel information for every country in the world, all U.S. states, Canadian provinces, and hundreds of cities. Several hundred pages of the Travelconsumer.com site link to Wikipedia. In fact, I link to Wikipedia on every page where Wikipedia has published on the topic. Let me make this clear. I do not sell any products or services. No one who visits my site can buy anything from me. They can, like nearly every Web, site follow advertising links like Google Adsense. However, the relationship between content and advertising on my pages highly favors content.
The problem comes when I post links to Travelconsumer.com pages in the external links pages of destinations listed on Wikipedia. Every time I post an link to one of Travelconsumer’s destination pages the Wikipedia anti-spammers get on my case and harass me saying that I am spamming Wikipedia. Nothing I say, no example I give seems to satisfy them. That’s why I am bringing this to an open forum.
Let me show you some examples. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London. Scroll down to the external links section. Click any number of the links and observe that most of the links go to purely commercial sites. Here’s some of the sites that were listed:
http://www.thisislondon.com/ an all commercial site http://www.asinah.org/weather/EGLL.html hotel reservation service http://www.london-eating.co.uk/ a commercial restaurant guide http://www.london-drinking.com/ a commercial pub guide http://www.netlondon.com/ a commercial portal for London http://www.londontown.com/directory/ a commercial portal for London If you continue following the listed links most of them are like these.
Now take a look at Travelconsumer.com’s London page at http://www.travelconsumer.com/intlcities/london.htm. I believe that if you compare the content of my page to those listed on Wikipedia you will see that my page is less commercial and contains real content that people can use. My goal to help travelers who need travel information, but don’t have time to go through the millions of pages listed by Google. Most of the Google links are to the same kinds of Web sites currently listed on Wikipedia.
What seems to red flag my contributions to Wikipedia is the fact that I have lots of contributions to make. Every country in the world and most cities represents more than a thousand links to and from Wikipedia. Because I make a lot of contributions it appears like am a spammer. The truth is that I have lots of information to share.
I appreciate the work done by people like Noel in keeping spammers out of Wikipedia, but it appears that he and people like him are blocking content providers like me and allowing in sites like http://www.2pl.com/London/bs-1250300001.htm. How do we resolve this problem? How can I stop the harassment?
Thanks,
Max (this comment posted by User:Maxlent --Xiong.)
I would suggest that if you think your site contains notable material on a given topic, mention it on the talk page and say that if someone else agrees it would be a useful addition to the article, they should add it. Also, if you feel links that are there are inappropriate, raise that. In general, adding a link from Wikipedia to one's own site is regarded as spamming. This is very close to the issues of Autobiography. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:53, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
How about this: stop posting spam for your web site and people will stop "harassing" you by removing those spam links? Let's try this exercise, spam is UBE:
Daniel Quinlan 05:47, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)
I did a search for Beta reader on wikipedia and found nothing so I started up a page. Only yesterday did I discover that betareader existed. What do we normally do in this case? *fvincent 16:31, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
It's my impression that the maths sections of WP are well-informed and moderated - I can't always be personally sure of this because my own background is in physical sciences, and many of the maths articles lack clear notational introductions (an undergraduate physicist should find a clear introduction to n-forms for example).
Turning to physics, I often find articles which appear to have been hijacked by mathematicians, causing them to loose insight into _physics_ principles. A good example is classical mechanics - I am told that Hamilton's equations are a trivial property of symplectic spaces - er fine - but why? (I think it's because the symplectic group is antisymmetric and so are Hamilton's equations - but a physicist gets a a lot of satisfaction and insight in deriving Hamilton's relations from Newton - how does a mathematician make the same journey? - can't tell!
Turning to chemistry - the situation as far as I can tell is even less good (certainly in UK there is a real shortage of qualified chemists, and no, I'm NOT one). I looked at 'phase diagram' and found an article on 'phase space'; I looked at 'Phase rule' and found two 1 component examples, one the trivial example of a single phase (gas) system; and the assertion that the phase rule is directly equivalent to Euler's relation - well yes it probably IS, once you've used thermodynamics to establish the _form_ of the phase diagram. Ah Gibbs that thou wast with us in this hour!
We desperately need our maths colleagues NOT to edit everything to JUST be maths statements, even if they do consider Euler more interesting than Gibbs - physicists, engineers and chemists need to use these concepts and need to have a grasp of key principles.
AND we need some more real chemists on patrol Linuxlad 11:07, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I try as first priority to remove or modify 'howlers' before passing by, and to leave a note on the Talk section of material I think needs addition or recasting - (though I think many people don't read or monitor the Talk sections). But, there is no sadder event than 'the person who did nothing because he could only do a little' (Edmund Burke??) Linuxlad 08:41, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
We would like to make a retrospective on the most special events of these past 4 years on Wikipedia, with a special interest for the first 2 years.
For doing so, we need oldbies :-)
We would like 10 oldbies (at least 3 years on wikipedia) and ask them to cite between 1 to 10 special moments or special persons which they think either impacted a lot the direction of the project, or of the community. Fun moments, sad moments, critical moments, controversial moments, special persons, special citations, still used 3 years later.... OR just events which were strange and reflected a certain spirit at some point, a spirit perhaps lost now ? Just make us remember...
I invite anyone who have been more than 3 years on the project to reflect on his past, and help us to remember. The Quarto team will also try to contact some people, which do not necessarily answer spontaneously :-) If you think someone needs to be contacted, please ... euh... be a denonciator.
A couple of examples I can think of myself (Anthere, which will consider herself an oldbie)
Of course, we will all have different special moments to cite :-) This is what could make it real fun.
Each point reported could be either
Please, make it short, make it patchwork, and make it non politically correct if you wish :-) (but stay civil).
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WQ/Retro
Thank you
Anthere 17:15, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I find some of the speeches very intriguing but difficult to really understand. Could some expert be invited to contribute parallel texts in plain language? Hamlets soliloquy To Be Or Not To Be? would be the best starting point in my opinion!!
It's hard to rewrite Shakespeare in plain language because often we don't know what he meant. His words are full of sound and fury, but signify... well, not nothing, but often they are obscure or ambiguous. For example, is Hamlet's speech expressing a genuine dilemma or mere indecision? What exactly does the phrase "in the mind" add, other than scansion? When he says "by opposing, end them [i.e. the troubles]", does he mean "by opposing, defeat them" or "by opposing, die (and so all troubles are ended)"? And does Fortune really have three arms (one to operate the sling, two for the bow and arrow)? Gdr 02:53, 2005 Mar 22 (UTC)
WikiPulse is a website I created which brings together many statistics about the project and is updated hourly. I plan on adding more information as good ideas come about or the statistics become available. If you would like me to add statistics for a project in another language, please translate Special:Statistics from that project and post the translation on the talk page of meta:WikiPulse. Note that this is only so I can read it - the section of the feed relevant to that language/wiki will be in English. Here is some example output (did you realize there are over 200 conversations on the pump?) :
As you can see, much can be done with this, so please post your ideas for me before spring break is over =) --Alterego 05:47, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
WikiPulse is now primarily a website and secondarily an RSS feed =) View the webpage here: http://qwikly.com/WikiPulse.html. I'll be adding refreshing graphs soon. --Alterego 00:36, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
Any way to get the number of active Wikipedian's during the day/month? - RoyBoy 800 07:28, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
hi frontend and monobook skin designer
please do not take any offense in the sharp title of this posting -- i was just shocked seeing the wikipedia main page with the pink and sky blue boxes (again) and the content with that blueish-greenish background!
from the point of view of design i do understand the idea of making white appear as a *colour* and not just *nothing* (like vanilla ice cream, which is like "no taste" nowadays) by coloring the very background.
but really: is the benefit of this design clarification large enough to justify the colorshift that the reader's eye undergoes when he/she is reading texts on blue instead of on white? does'nt it also cause problems with the header lines of tables, that they then might appear lonesome in a white unframed square while with the white background they would just smoothely appear as words centered on a framed box floatin gin the white space?
which brings me to the notion that in graphics design lingo the space between blocks of text is referred to as "whitespace". so is it really appropriate to have wikipedia's whitespace being a bluespace?
i do **very much** appreciate the monobook design for it's pragmatic, beautifully engineered layout, its precise and very legible typography and its subtleties like the thin yello three-quarter-frame around the active tab! and i keep on thinking it everytime i return to wikipedia.
i have now the very strong feeling that coloring the background does weaken the whole design and in doing so also affects the legibility and experience of wikipedia.
best wishes --hochnebel 14:14, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi, this is to inform the new Y! search for Creative Commons content. An API is also available. See if this can be used as a source for content. By the way, what else will be the appropriate place for this kind of info? -- Sundar (talk · contribs)
I just received a media press release for E3 in LA. The conference runs May 17 to May 19, the exhibit is from May 18 to May 20. Contact me if you're willing to go, to either take PD/GNU/Creative Commons photos for Wikicommons, and/or write articles for Wikinews. Email me at nicholasmoreau@gmail.com -- user:zanimum
CHANNELS
we broadcast channels of chrome flowers
I keep looking
don't worry
I will find you
While I keep dreaming
I keep waiting
To move on
Is not the direction I desire
A shape that fills my heart
source: Channel 5 Sequence by Haujobb [1]
WikiWax. neat stuff! --Alterego 07:02, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
I like them both. Filiocht 12:32, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
User:Ganglieri recently pointed out another cool search: GlobalWPSearch, developed by de:Benutzer:Aka searches titles with the same name in 18 Wikipedias. Because it is exact-match an only searches titles, which will generally differ across languages, it's mainly useful for people and for place-names. But pretty cool if you are at all multilingual. -- Jmabel | Talk 18:15, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
I'm a New Zealander, and like many of the English-speaking world we spell the word "colour" with a "u". You might say we use the British spelling, but I wouldn't. I say we use the New Zealand spelling. In New Zealand we use -ise endings almost exclusively, but the Oxford English Dictionary (U.K.) prefers the -ize endings. Besides, characterising the spelling divide as being between Britain and the U.S. is completely misleading. Most Commonwealth and former Commonwealth countrys prefer what you might call the British forms. I'm not sure what spelling they use in Canada (my ignorance!) but I wouldn't be surprised either way.
So my question: is there some boilerplate text, or some standard term, or something we can use when discussing this spelling divide? At the moment, out of frustration, I'm tempted to insert a huge list of countries every time I read an article suggest that a term is "British" usage. That's not good for readability, but "British" isn't good for accuracy.
Maybe a linguist would be of help here. Is "Commonwealth English" a good enough characterisation? Depending on where Canada fits we could describe one variant as "Commonwealth English" and the other as "North American English" or "United States English". Does any other country use the U.S. spelling?
Ben Arnold 08:00, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Under Choreographers, you have listed Agnes de Mille under "M" instead of "d".
I have created an expanded and more accurate version of "Wikistress", which I call a "Wikimood". A wikimood is your position on a specially-devised 21-point signed integer scale that indicates your general emotional status on Wikipedia. I have devised the following templates that you can use to indicate your current wikimood. The further your position is from zero, the more intense your wikimood. The ideal range is between +1 and +4 inclusive.
-10 (Explosive), -9 (Violent), -8 (Enraged), -7 (Hostile), -6 (Icy), -5 (Frustrated), -4 (Distressed), -3 (Upset), -2 (Depressed), -1 (Withdrawn), 0 (Neutral),
+1 (Calm), +2 (Content), +3 (Happy), +4 (Cheerful), +5 (Enthusiastic), +6 (Zealous), +7 (Mental), +8 (Insane), +9 (Crazy), and +10 (Chaotic).
What do you think? Denelson83 10:15, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I need to know common phrases in various languages. Where would you point me to? To an article in an encyclopedia? Probably not. And yet...
In short, I think this tourist phrasebook content should be transwikied. I've raised this issue on its talk page, but no-one responded. What do other people think? — mark ✎ 17:06, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
That's a great page, and it looks like a lot of people have worked on it. But I agree with your position that it should be transwikied to WikiBooks, because its content is a little bit too deep for an encyclopedia (which as far as I understand is supposed to remain relatively general). --Coolcaesar 00:15, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
194.83.173.134 14:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC) rja.carnegie@excite.com
I got a spam today which claims that Wikipedia says its "traction method" of making penises larger actually works. I haven't looked, but I think the implication is commercial abuse of Wikipedia editing for gain. In which case, someone should do something. (Or, the method actually works.)
They seem to have a gift for poetry too (see end).
Oh, and they apparently drag in BBC.
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Message-ID: <079z7fzlsc.fsf@calle74.net>
Subject: You saw it on BBC
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you bayberry me writhe me you disjunct me stethoscope me you homicidal me golden me you bodybuild me juan me you hippopotamus me jocular me you apices me respirator me you ostracism me garter me
Suppose there's a small article that someone knowledgeable comes along and decides to add too. They've got a lot to add so it takes them about 30 minutes. About minute 29 someone else comes along and notices a spelling mistake in the article and decides to correct it. Whilst they're correcting the mistake, the first person saves their work and leaves. Then, the spelling mistake corrected, the second person saves over the enhanced version with the old article (minus the spelling mistake) - would that mean someone had just wasted half an hour of their life??
Should Chicago, Illinois be moved to Chicago? Please help and vote at Talk:Chicago, Illinois! Dralwik 15:17, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I just made an edit not reolisng I'd not logged in. I then clicked on my number (IP) thing to see what else I had done not logged in and it came up with loads of stuff I hadn't done (as well as the thing I had just done). How come? No body else uses wikipedia on this broadband internet connection? I thought all these numbers were uniquie to particular connections?--JK the unwise 22:36, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is any picture of a painting up to the early 20th century from the Bridgeman archive available through gettyone.com fair game? I plan to embark on a illustrate wikipedia project. Articles without images such as polo will soon include material from Bridgeman. Lotsofissues 14:36, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Bleep test. See the following links for information, and a Google search for it.
Thanks, --213.18.248.24 12:59, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I added this request to one of the request subpages - you can view it here BTW, I've noticed you have a colorful undetermined history at Wikipedia. You make helpful formatting changes and corrections however you vandalize just as much. I hope you choose to stay the course of the former. What is the point of damaging the integrity of a project you've contributed to? Lotsofissues 14:33, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Article added. See Multi-stage fitness test.--Fangz 23:05, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Take a look at this edit: [4] Lotsofissues 09:50, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This was a duplicate created by sandbot - not by a previous editor - but by sandbot [5] Explainable?
Hi. Today, a vandal opperating under the IP address 142.22.16.50 vandalized an article with which I was involved. I was particularly impressed by the number of edits (all acts of vandalism, reverted by two different users, and one of them had to do it twice!) he performed on a single day (all close together, indicating his intention of messing the article). When I checked his history of contributions, I verified that he's been around, solely vandalizing articles, for six months!! And I verified that the edits throughout this period of time (I checked different edits from different months) were all acts of vandalism. Over a period of six months, that's not a misguided anon, that's a "criminal". Can someone block this IP address? Regards, Redux 23:02, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Curps blocked the IP address, but only for 24 hours (or so he said he'd do at the WP:VIP). Really, a 24 hour ban for a vandal that has done nothing in six months but vandalize articles?? And notice that the IP address doesn't seem to be shared with anyone else, since all entries there are acts of vandalism (or all of them are vandals, which amounts to the same). That person's violation of the 3RR in the Rio de Janeiro State article is not even the main point, that IP address would have to be blocked indefinitely, so maybe that person would just move on and find some other way to waste his time, without wasting ours. In a blatant case like this one, we should be enphatic. This IP address has already been listed in all forums Thryduulf was kind enough to list above, and yet all we can muster is a 24 hour ban?? I'm sorry, but things like this are a considerable part of the reason why Wikipedia gets so much vandalizing. In this case, there's no gray area, it's six months of pure vandalism people! Regards, Redux 03:43, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Can we please have the general queries and updates list back again - it is an easy method of getting minor problems/glitches and other things one does not have the time/inclination to deal with to the attention of those who can.
Frequent changes to such areas does tend to discourage people from updating Wikipedia.
As Wikipedia grows into a first look resource like Google, organizations will have an incentive to hire estabished members to write for them. Here is an example [6] Should we develop a policy?
Lotsofissues 23:40, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If I were able to obtain the Pelican shit vandal's "real" IP, would it be of any use? ✏ OvenFresh² 16:11, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
In response to complaints about certain offensive images being used for vandalism (most notably Image:Autofellatio 2.jpg), I've introduced a bad image list, which contains a list of images which cannot be included inline in articles. Inline images are replaced with links to the description page. I only implemented this feature because the current compromise on Autofellatio is amenable to it -- I hope this will be used as an anti-vandalism feature not as a means of censorship.
The feature is implemented for page views not for saves, so it acts retrospectively on diffs such as this one. It's pretty likely that the vandal will try to get around the filter by uploading the same image with a different name every time, but that's what this game is about: increasing the cost to them while reducing the cost to us. -- Tim Starling 06:06, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
in "Today's featured article" - on the discussion page someone described it a few hours ago ... greetings -- Schusch 18:48, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi all - I've spotted what looks to me suspiciously like a sockpuppet...but I can't be certain. Is there a hard-and-fast way of being sure of such things? If there is - or if there isn't for that matter, could someone who has some experience in such matters contact me, either at my talk page or by email with what to do about it? Grutness|hello? 12:45, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hello, I'm announcing the first alpha-release of a gaim plugin for translating Wikipedia links. Those using gaim can now talk the same way IRC users do (with those nice scripts installed). They will now get all the [[links]] translated to a fully working URL. It's late here, please forward this message to a better place, I'm not a regular user of en:wp. Thanks in advance! Try it and comment! Nuno Tavares 04:19, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I just did a standard search in the search box for something I didn't get an article on but I did get web search results back. Is the feature back on? Am I just realllly slow??? Nrbelex (talk)
Humm, what do you make of this? An article about a sci-fi television show that deals with abductions and someone leaves a story about their own alleged (of course) abduction?? Please. Notice that, although this comment was not signed, it was written by a registered user. This user has been around for some time, but has made a limited number of contributions, and has never signed any of his comments on talk pages. Really, I don't know what to do with this. Should we blank this, or leave it there? Regards, Redux 00:59, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi!
I have really fallen in love with the painting depicted in the purgatory article. It is entitled "Anima Sola" and says it is from a holy card. I would really like to find the name of the artist who painted this piece. Is it known, or is it lost to history? If anyone can help me in this search that would be great.
Thanks!
Should insulting nicknames for politicians be made into redirects (e.g. Slick Willy---->Bill Clinton or Dumbya---->George W. Bush)? Vote at Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion. Meelar (talk) 19:24, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
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Hullo,
My wife is interested in tracing a long lost relative, or more likely, his sons or daughters. She has very little information, but hopefully the following is correct.
He was probably a headmaster at a school in the Gilbert and Ellice Islands during the early 1950s. My wife has a stamp from G&E Islands commemorating Queen Elizabeth's coronation taken from a letter addressed to my wife's aunt. My wife would have been aged about 10 at that time.
He was probably Welsh, and POSSIBLY called Mr Jones.
And that is about all we know, but somebody might remember him, or be able to suggest where we should go to next. We have only just realised how large an area your islands cover.
My wife is trying to trace her family history in South Wales, and is having dificulty going further back than her maternal Grandmother.
Perhaps anybody with information or advice would email her on Sabresix@aol.com. My wife's name is Barbara Williams, and her mother's family name was Jones.
My fingers are crossed.
John Williams South Wales United Kingdom
At this page[8] there is a logo which ought to go on Freedom of Information Act 2000. Could someone upload it?--212.100.250.214 07:15, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What happened to cause Wikipedia's explosion in popularity in October, 2004?
Did Wikipedia start a new advertizing campaign then? Start getting major news coverage? Get better treatment by search engines? The site traffic, after being fairly steady for half a year, almost doubled within a month.
- Pioneer-12 13:34, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Anyone out there that knows js on a higher level than me may want to help me here... I want to put a bookmarklet into my link tab in firefox so that when I'm in an edit page, it adds ((subst:User:Ilyanep/Wel))
into the edit, Welcome!
into the edit summary, and perferably clicks the 'watch this page' button. The reason I'd like to have this is because I'm becoming too lazy to type this out (and deal with all the autocomplete things...) Thanks a lot in advance to anyone who takes this up ! (is it possible?) :) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 04:22, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Note: I'd probably also use this as a template for my admin, bureaucrat, test1-4, ban, and copyvio messages :) — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 04:25, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Also, if that fails, could you paste the code from your subpage into that field? Mgm|(talk) 08:18, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
var f = document.editform, t = f.wpTextbox1; if (t.value.length > 0) t.value += '\n'; t.value += '((subst:User:Ilyanep/Wel))'; f.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome!'; f.wpWatchthis.checked = true;
Here you go. —Korath (Talk) 09:14, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Hello.
I will be in Stockholm from late 11th of april till late 12th of april. And not even time for a coffee I fear. However... I will present wikipedia at a very small meeting in Stockholm before going to a bigger thing in Finland... and the organiser told me wikipedians would be welcome to join if they were interested. I copied the information page on meta m:Dot Org Boom.
It is mandatory to register. But it is free (lunch as well). The event is on the 12th of april. If some of you have time to join for part or all of the day, I would be delighted to meet them. Feel free to join. the event takes place in the Embassy of Finland, www.finland.se, address is Gärdesgatan 11
Anthere 03:28, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me what is going on here.
The article M6 Toll is on my watchlist since I contributed the image. There was a minor change to the article today [9], but on checking it, I noticed that the photo looked different.
On examining the image page, I see that the image was apparently replaced by User:Ukipguy yesterday... now this is where it gets strange.
I've tried various image reloads to rule out cache problems, so now I'm perplexed. Is this a hoax? -- Solipsist 18:47, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I want to find the test-wiki running the latest media-wiki. but the http://test.wikipedia.org has been Forbidden to visit. so please give me the right link if you know, Thanks a lot! --Vipuser 04:45, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)(talk!)
BBC online appear to have started to make it near common policy to give external links to related pages - mainly with their technology articles - on Wikipedia. See [11] linking to Valdemar Poulsen and [12] to Vlog - Estel (talk) 21:55, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Is there a list anywhere with the first Wikipedia pages? Fornadan 20:43, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
http://maps.google.com/ is offering satellite pics, at least of the United States. They appear to have pretty good detail and resolution - better than anything else I can see on offer, anyways. What's the possibility of using these in Wikipedia?--Fangz 14:47, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Wow. The satellite imagery on Google Maps is amazing. Hmm, looking at satellite photos of New York gives me a strange urge to play SimCity. Rhobite 06:29, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
I'm back again, and staying this time! Can you believe it? (unsigned message from Ilyanep, 5 April 2005)
I've set up a small project, that I called Minipedia, to determine the most important article(s) for a Wikipedia to have. You can vote there for the articles you feel are most important. But there's a catch: You can only votes for articles in the Minipedia!
The idea is to write a collection of simple, short (max 1000 char) articles and vote for an order of importance. This will allow new, or small, wikipedias to get a jump start by translating the articles, or at least the important ones.
So far I've only written, and voted for, a few demo articles, but anyone with five minutes to spare should feel free to edit those or to add an important article to the Minipedia. Or if you have only a minute to spare: feel free to vote for the article every Wikipedia should have. Aliter 00:56, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've come across several articles with messages such as "Initial text from the 9th edition (1876) of an unnamed encyclopedia - please update as needed" and "This article uses text from the 9th edition (1880s) of an unnamed encyclopedia."
Is there a reason that Britannica isn't named here? Should a template be created for these, much like the template for the 1911 version? --BaronLarf 21:21, Apr 3, 2005 (UTC)
Creating lots of needy articles (mostly lack of wikification, intro problems, and other MoS issues, but also lots of untagged images, GIFs, cut&paste moves and other common newcomer errors, and occasional ESL issues, etc. (I've cleaned up some of them). See Method Engineering Encyclopedia/Talk:Method Engineering Encyclopedia. Niteowlneils 18:21, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I was reading Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit to find how to personaly change the attribution of one single editing as described in Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit#General Notes the senence starting with Note that there is a simple way to "reclaim" such an inadvertently ....
Now thepage is very long and starts with a big message saying the service is disable. I undestood that is disable only the service made by developer not this simple way, but I thought that the most of users would not undestand this.
The instruction to to by ourself the simple revertion is not easy to found in this article. I would suggest to put in a more evident part of the article (for example just belove the red alert message at the beginnig). It would be nice if it would be inserted in some Help Section/Manual/How To (so that a user can have this information without having to go to that page, that is for the request to te developer) AnyFile 09:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I have recently been to Venice and now have perfect photos of the following emergency cars boats:
I am willing for them to be used in Wikipedia, but I don't want to go through the trouble of uploading them and putting them into articles. So if you want them, email me at gwusenet<at>gmail<dot>com and I'll reply with them attatched.--212.100.250.208 07:55, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is there a central place on WikiPedia that we can go to discuss new features for the MediaWiki software? Bugzilla.wikimedia.org, while great for reporting bugs, is just not good for feature discussion, and meta:MediaWiki feature request and bug report discussion, which appears to be the central discussion page, seems to be permananetly vandalized. (The top of the page says bizarre things like "This page is a black hole.")
- Pioneer-12 23:49, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I don't want to request features at this time; I want to discuss them. And just because he's a developer doesn't give him the right to vandalize a page because he doesn't like it. - Pioneer-12 00:01, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could someone with a medical background please look over the recent edits to HIV and AIDS? One user is rewriting many sections to downplay the importance of antiretroviral therapy, removing mention of condoms and abstinence as preventative measures, and generally removing much information. Thanks. Rhobite 23:40, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I'd like to pose a hypothetical question here: suppose a group of users wanted to change a key policy of the website, especifically, say they wanted to "outlaw" fair use as a valid license for an image to be used in Wikipedia. Could this be done by a consensus achieved in a vote in which only 25 users participated? Even if those 25 users happen to be the top 25 contributors to the website? I'm asking it because that's been done in the Portuguese language Wikipedia. A vote was carried by a group of users (mostly Admins of that project, which enables them to enforce their decision) to rule out fair use under the general argument that they wanted the website to be 100% free, and images published under the U.S. fair use are not so, especially if the website is viewed in other countries. I had been absent from that project for a while and had not taken part in that decision. Upon returning, I noticed that the people who did participate had a very slim understanding of international law (especially concerning the internet) and had reasoned only with personal opinions about the fair use. So I tried to explain the legal reasons why fair use is valid, even if it's a US legal institution. I also thought that such a change in the essence of the project could not be carried out by such a limited number of users, since it is not the same as reaching a consensus about an article. The general reply to my (rather long) posts explaining international law was that "it was voted and decided, and [as part of the decision] this can only be revisited in a year". In protest, I've withdrawn from that project for the time being (not for good), but still thought I had a point, so I thought I'd ask for some advice on this, the largest of all the WPs. Was I right about the issues with the procedure? Or, regardless of whether I could be right technically, a consensus of 25 (of over 5 thousand) should prevail to change part of the essence of the project? What would happen if something similar was attempted here (going back to my original question)? Regards, Redux 17:58, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
About what Aliter said: I've already brought up a great deal of it during my aforementioned "long posts" explaining why fair use was a valid licence. As I mentioned, the general reply (of those who were able to get their way, of course) was that it was decided in a vote (democratly), to which I replied that the mere fact that it was a democratic (although there was no minimum quorum respected, which I had thought would be advisable to make such a profound change) decision does not ensure the quality of that decision. But the situation is more complicated. The people over there appear to have, as far as this issue is concerned, a very limited understanding of the mechanisms that make Wikipedia possible. Here's one example: one of the Admins over there was advocating, during the discussion, that fair use violates the GFDL. Isn't that one of those issues that have already been put to rest here? How can an Admin be so on the wrong track? In the case of the Portuguese WP, there are no servers in the countries were its readers are located (although there are plans – meaning, sometime in the future, not now – to install servers in Portugal). And finally, yes they are deleting images on account that fair use has been outlawed. Regards, Redux 17:33, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but the point of view is flawed, not to mention inconsistent. As I have mentioned over there (although I don't think anyone cared), if the concern was only creating a "100% free" encyclopedia concerning the images as well [as the text], changes could not have been restricted to the fair use policy. The Admin I mentioned before gave this example about a hypothetical someone "wanting to copy an image from the pt wp onto a t-shirt as selling it in the streets and that this someone should be able to do this without concerns for copyright restrictions". He gave this example as a paradigm of what he meant. Then I asked, with no reply until now: what about the permission for use? If we ask a copyright holder for permission to use his material on WP and get it, that doesn’t mean that people can "copy it onto t-shirts and sell it down the street", even though the image will be useable on Wikipedia. That policy remains intact in the pt wp, even though it's a classic example of an image being used that is not 100% free. So, if you ban fair use because you wish the encyclopedia to be 100% free, you have to ban the use of copyrighted images with express permission for use – or, as I also asked there, does anyone believe that when a copyright holder allows us to use his material he is revoking his rights entirely and releasing the material in the public domain? Not at all, permission for use is special for WP. But the crusade over there was against fair use only, so they only approached the issues that fit their interests, again showing a complete lack of knowledge of international law.
Furthermore, you are mistaken about images used under the fair use license being free only in the US or other countries with fair-use-like legislation. In fact, it's not completely free even in the US. Fair use allows us to use images on the WP, for its purposes (non commercial, etc.), but that does not mean that anyone in the US could copy the image, again, "onto a t-shirt and sell it down the street". Also as I've stated there, tagging images is not intended exclusively to orientate wikipedians (as to whether to leave an image alone or list it for deletion), but rather it also serves the very important purpose of letting the visitor know that, even though that image is being used here, it is not completely free (or it is, depending on the tag that we've added). It's restricted in the US, it's restricted elsewhere, and since there are no wikipedia servers in the countries where the Portuguese-speaking users are located, and the data for that wikipedia is being hosted in the US (they have admitted that), international law allows the pt wp to use images under the fair use institution of the United States.
And finally, there’s a very relevant issue (I believe) of having a handful of users decide such a fundamental change in the website. My hypothetical question here (the title of this discussion) was precisely to know if something like that would be accepted here. Adjusting for the very different magnitudes of both communities, would such a decision made by a consensus of 70 users (there, it was 25) be acceptable to ban either fair use or some other main aspect of the image policy in effect here? Given the smaller numbers there, it’s even more problematic, since you can change the very nature of the project by having a vote in which a very small group, that represents one (biased?) train of thought, vote and decide for the community. Then, as the community slowly catches on (since the admins who are part of that group start deleting images all over the place), they come back with the good old “it’s already been voted and decided, come back in a year”. As I said there, that is not the same as reaching a consensus in a article. And did I mention that the period to vote was rather short? So, if you’ve been away for two weeks, you missed it, and it’s too late? For a change like that? That is not democracy, unless you’re thinking in terms of the 19th century. That is why I’ve withdrawn for the time being, in protest. Regards, Redux 22:03, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Returning to Eugene's entry [way] above, I'd have to say, first off, that the pt:wp is not the property of the Europeans (in this particular case, meaning the Portuguese). If the laws of Portugal or any other specific country makes it harder to utilize the material from Wikipedia, the objective should be to create tags and warnings to let people know that the material may be further restricted in certain parts of the world. Banning fair use because the Europeans can't copy and distribute the material (here, the images) at home is a simplistic and national-centric solution, and it would create a crazy logic. For instance: let's ban all images that may be offensive for the Muslim world (meaning, no pictures of women in "revealing" clothes). The pt wp is not hosted in Portugal, or even in Europe for that matter, so there's no sense in banning content because hard copies of it would be restricted over there. Our responsibility is to provide ways to let people know about those restrictions (again, tags are not just meant for Wikipedians, but rather to let any user know of the status and eventual limitations of the images).
And how can you not see the inconsistency of arguing the "need for the material to be 100% free" to justify banning fair use and not touch the express permission for use, which Izwalito also brought up in his comment about the French WP? That's the pinnacle of inconsistency! A double standard, if you will. I guess I could even say that they used this excuse because the Portuguese who got fair use banned (they were the majority) didn't want to say with all the words: "we don't want fair use because we can't make as free a use of the material as others could". Are they envious? Bitter? I believe all of these may be true, but mainly they are suffering from the same problem that seems to plague the French WP: a complete lack of knowledge and understanding of how international law (especially with regards to the internet) works. It's no offense, but one of the strongest opposers of fair use in the Portuguese language project is an Admin who is 17 years old. Others may not be as young, but they too know nothing about international law or how the internet works (in terms of the legality of it) in contrast with their own national laws.
What would happen if people from all over the world started arguing the limitations of their own countries to supress material from an international project that is, for the most part, hosted in the United States (where the law gives us latitude to use at least some copyrighted material)? The project would be unworkable. Regards, Redux 00:07, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I am thinking of refactoring this section somewhere. Would Wikipedia talk:Fair use be a good place, is there a better place, or should it stay here? Rad Racer | Talk 02:23, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Izwalito is a banned user. Sorry, but I do not think his comments should stay here. Anthere 22:20, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think Wikipedia should make better use of artificial intelligence, in order to automate more simple tasks. An example is redirects. Someone had to manually redirect Condoleeza Rice to Condoleezza Rice. We could have a feature similar to what Google has, where if you make a typo, it will suggest "Did you mean Condoleezza Rice?"
Copyvio detection software also wouldn't be too hard to implement.. I think we should make greater use of bots too; a sophisticated algorithm could find overlapping articles (e.g. United Nations Security Council and Reform of the United Nations) and flag those for linking, so that contributors would be less likely to duplicate each others' work.
Spell-check is another obvious possibility, as are bots to perform more complex tasks such as conforming references to the style manual. A number of methods could be implemented for vandal detection. Page move rollback and other repetitive admin tasks could be automated.
As it is now, Wikipedia article creation tends to be very labor-intensive, sometimes unnecessarily. Rad Racer 17:05, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I seem to have gotten it moved back, with it's history, but am having trouble with it's Talk page. Any help, or ideas what I've done wrong? Niteowlneils 00:14, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
Done. You moved it to USA Patriot Act instead of USA PATRIOT Act. :) RickK 00:31, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
Recipeland's "Encyclopedia" article on Solubility Equilibrium
Notice that the above is a link to a mirror of Wikipedia that does not appear to be cited. Since I'm an idiot, I'm not sure whether this use is legal under Wikipedia's license or not. As such, I've posted a link here for someone more knowledgeable to pick up on. If you do something related to this (move this post, send the site owner a strongly worded letter, etc.), I'd be interested to know what it was, so I'd be quite happy if you'd tell on my talk page. Thanks. Orborde 04:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering - what timezone does Wikipedia run in? It's clearly not GMT as it's displaying yesterday's date. JiMternet 00:35, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... actually it just changed over as I posted the above... :S JiMternet 00:37, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
If you check out my contributions, you'll see I've done a great deal, including fixing syntax. I could at least get a ((welcome)) or ((anon)), couldn't I, now. Reply here please.--The Cross Anon (talk) 07:30, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
In light of the discussion here, it may be useful to review Snowspinner's contributions to Wikipedia.
Snowspinner's edits to article namespace, 1 January 2005 - 15 April 2005
Number | Percent | Description |
318 | 100% | Edits to article space |
75 | 24% | Removals of {stub} |
63 | 20% | Edits to remove John Gohde additions |
45 | 14% | Reverts in article namespace to John Gohde |
21 | 7% | Edits relating to Steaks or "Steak and Blowjob Day" |
13 | 4% | Reverts in article namespace, not to John Gohde |
Snowspinner's edits to all namespaces, 1 January 2005 - 15 April 2005
Number | Percent of Total | ||||
Number | Percent of Total | ||||
Edits to the Encyclopedia | 332 | 22% | |||
Articles | 318 | 21.02% | |||
Image | 0 | 0.00% | |||
Template | 7 | 0.46% | |||
Category | 7 | 0.46% | |||
Discussion of Articles | 258 | 17% | |||
Talk | 109 | 7.20% | |||
Image_talk | 0 | 0.00% | |||
Template_talk | 5 | 0.33% | |||
Category_talk | 3 | 0.20% | |||
Votes for Deletion | 60 | 3.97% | |||
Templates for Deletion | 49 | 3.24% | |||
Votes for Undeletion | 32 | 2.12% | |||
Other | 923 | 61% | |||
Wikipedia | 424 | 28.02% | |||
Wikipedia_talk | 230 | 15.20% | |||
User_talk | 200 | 13.22% | |||
User | 69 | 4.56% |
For comparison purposes, the contributions of Everyking, netoholic, John Gohde, and Snowspinner:
Total Edits in 2005 | Edits to the Encyclopedia | Discussion of Articles | Other | |||||||||
Everyking | 10000 | * | 9191 | 92% | 345 | 3% | 464 | 5% | ||||
netoholic | 3987 | 1463 | 37% | 670 | 17% | 2197 | 55% | |||||
John Gohde | 1307 | ** | 358 | 27% | 163 | 12% | 786 | 60% | ||||
Snowspinner | 1513 | 332 | 22% | 258 | 17% | 923 | 61% |
* Edits for Everyking are only from 9 February, not 1 January as for all other listed, as the "Wikipedia Contributions" page times out when attempting to show edits beyond 10000 |
** Edits for John Gohde are only from 30 January, not 1 January as for Snowspinner and netoholic, as he has no listed edits prior to that date |
--Statistics compiled by rrcaballo AT yahoo.com
If there is a point in any of this, it escapes me. One can make good contributions either in a talk page or an article; one can make bad contributions either in a talk page or an article. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:38, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
Snowspinner's edits: pages accounting for 1% or more of his total 424 edits to Wikipedia namespace, 1 January 2005 - 15 April 2005
Number | Percent | Page | |
76 | 17.92% | Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents | |
72 | 16.98% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration | |
18 | 4.25% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Netoholic_2/Evidence | |
18 | 4.25% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/172_2/Evidence | |
18 | 4.25% | Wikipedia:Association_of_Member_Investigations | |
14 | 3.30% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/John_Gohde/Evidence | |
14 | 3.30% | Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR | |
14 | 3.30% | Wikipedia:Categories%2C_lists%2C_and_series_boxes (changing John Gohde edits) | |
13 | 3.07% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection | |
10 | 2.36% | Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard | |
10 | 2.36% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Xed/Evidence | |
9 | 2.12% | Wikipedia:Blocking_policy/Personal_attacks | |
9 | 2.12% | Wikipedia:Categories%2C_lists%2C_and_series_boxes (not changing John Gohde edits) | |
7 | 1.65% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Snowspinner | |
6 | 1.42% | Wikipedia:Don%27t_be_a_dick | |
6 | 1.42% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Snowspinner_2 | |
6 | 1.42% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Anthony_DiPierro_2/Evidence | |
5 | 1.18% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Lst27_2 | |
5 | 1.18% | Wikipedia:Don%27t_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_illustrate_a_point | |
5 | 1.18% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Gzornenplatz/Evidence | |
5 | 1.18% | Wikipedia:AMA_Requests_for_Assistance | |
5 | 1.18% | Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Admin_enforcement_requested |
Of Snowspinner's 424 edits to the Wikipedia namespace, 156, or 37%, were to an Arbitration page.
Of his 230 edits to the Wikipedia_talk namespace 132, or 57% were to an Arbitration Talk page.
Of his 69 edits to User namespace, 3 were to John Godhe's own user page,
Of Snowspinner's 200 edits the User_talk namespace 19, or 10%, were to John Gohde's User_talk page.
If a bunch of you have a problem with Snowspinner, start an RfC, so that he has a decent chance to reply. Frankly, this effort at prosecution by press release disgusts me, and probably should be considered a violation of the policy against personal attacks. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:54, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
What's your point? If you think something should be done, write an RfC, but the Village Pump is no place for your bellyaching. WP:ANI is at least slightly more on-topic for this discussion which is nothing but a large personal attack. RickK 66.60.159.190 17:49, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
Recently someone added a cleanup message to the article Ithkuil language. Here are my changes to the style of the article; see how you like them so far.
Help! Lately, when I see Recent changes, it always appears to start 7 minutes ago rather than at the current time. What can be done to fix it?? Georgia guy 22:26, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Fellow Wikipedians,
I'm proposing an experiment (tentatively called Pickypedia) to see if a collaborative encyclopedia can be created which combines the openness and collaborative spirit of Wikipedia with the reliability of a good paper encyclopedia. Have a look at the description and share your thoughts and comments! --Marnen Laibow-Koser (talk) 20:38, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Every time I try to move Pope Benedict XVI - Wikipedia Is Communism back to Pope Benedict XVI I get the following error: Error in numRows(): Duplicate entry '0-Pope_Benedict_XVI_-_Wikipedia_Is_Communism' for key 2
Backtrace:
* GlobalFunctions.php line 507 calls wfbacktrace() * Database.php line 528 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace() * Database.php line 717 calls databasemysql::numrows() * MessageCache.php line 307 calls databasemysql::selectrow() * MessageCache.php line 249 calls messagecache::getfromcache() * GlobalFunctions.php line 429 calls messagecache::get() * GlobalFunctions.php line 338 calls wfmsgreal() * OutputPage.php line 611 calls wfmsg() * Database.php line 386 calls outputpage::databaseerror() * Database.php line 333 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror() * Database.php line 911 calls databasemysql::query() * Title.php line 1685 calls databasemysql::insert() * Title.php line 1449 calls title::movetonewtitle() * SpecialMovepage.php line 152 calls title::moveto() * SpecialMovepage.php line 36 calls movepageform::dosubmit() * SpecialPage.php line 310 calls wfspecialmovepage() * SpecialPage.php line 220 calls unlistedspecialpage::execute() * index.php line 101 calls specialpage::executepath()
As many Wikimedians are heading for Frankfurt and there hopefully will be a lot of PR for Wikipedia, people should expand the article about the city (Frankfurt) as this one probably will be one of the first some people in the press etc. will check if they are going to write something about Wikimania and Wikipedia. German Wikipedia has a very impressive article with many images, see de:Frankfurt am Main. -- George L.
At MediaWiki talk:Infobox alert/es, I'm requesting the creation of a message in order to solve a problem when you choose to use the Spanish interface of the English Wikipedia. That's how the same problem was fixed at the commons. Thanks in advance. --Ascánder 16:47, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Have people come across the above?
Is there a list of Wikipedia-associated sites? Jackiespeel 12:53, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I came cross Talk:3 (number) and the proposal on Wikipedia:Requested moves [17], but I didn't find the discussion of the a/m move. Where is it? -- User:Docu
I normally don't cross-post FACs to the Village Pump, but Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs has stagnated on FAC for awhile and more votes are needed to reach consensus: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs.
A few interesting things about this treaty:
--66.218.13.18 17:21, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, Best I can tell, this is the best place for this. I haven't signed on yet, but have used and perused the pages quite a bit, not intimately. That means I might have missed my answer somewhere <g> but I did try.
At present, I have two interests:
1. Foster Care 2. Social Security Disability (SSDI) Both United States, some Canada.
Looking up each of those two, I can find nothing but a couple of short stubs, one for each one, with little content, and mostly Canadian references for instnce, on Foster Care, though only a few.
We have a pretty fair experience and knowledge in both. I am disabled for health reasons and this may fit one of my current life goals to give back to the world some of the good it has given me. As a result, the following questions:
Would it be acceptable to seriously expand on the accurate, but tiny bit of information in those stubs? Or are they intentionally short due to them being state/government based? Obviously I would concentrate on the US with much less available to me for Cananda, but I do know people <g>.
Everything I would plan to supply would either be clearly linked to .gov references, or clearly noted as opinion based on experiences of myself and others.
I would also intend to provide several links, esp to .gov sites, but some would be more controversial because they might be forums or newgroups or sites that deal with "real" as opposed to fanatical support. A web search on either will get you some pretty lousy and some pretty good links and many, many links!
In both those cases, a person just getting into the system, seems to be at a total loss as to where to look for information and how to even begin the process, let alone find much reliable information about how the processes go and even whether it's a process or a program. Most people, when just getting started in these areas, don't even know what questions to ask yet: But OJT teaches it fairly well even if it's too late to have been useful. The major learning seems to come after the fact, and goes into woulda should coulda, if I'd only known ... categories.
I'll keep puttering around and learning, but any comments back would be appreciated. Not signed up yet but I will soon. Oh, and I'm not adverse to criticism of any kind. I might surprise you if you speak badly about my parents, but beyond that I understand what criticism is about; I was a tech writer in one of my past lives and still dabble.
Regards & TIA,
Tom
r91658@yahoo.com, but please use this forum for responses; I only use Yahoo for temporaray throw-aways and places I've not mailed before <g>.
PS - Interesting form! Never had this much control before; looks like fun.
--66.218.13.18 18:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gee, that was fast! Are you a person or a bot? <g>. No problem, no need to actually respond, either.
Cautions/comments noted: I'll probably screw up a few times, but I'll work at keeping it within the guidelines and I'll go slowly enough to watch for problems. After all, Vetting's my middle name!
Many thanks,
Tom (aka Pop)
The FA South Africa contains a pronounciation in the MP3 format. Is this in accordance with current Wikipedia policies? If not, can someone remove it? Thanks. --Eleassar777 17:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could I suggest making a page List of executive agencies in the United Kingdom? A list can be found by clicking here and then on "Executive agencies" on the right hand side".--E.M.
The above comment is, in my belief, very dis-constructive, and verging on rude. See my comments on his/her user talk page.--212.100.250.208 15:57, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC) NB, I'm a user, just not logged in.
In any case, it's probably a good idea to wait until after the election, if you're going to include mention of the ministries the agencies are related to, as it's usual to reorganise ministries immediately after a general election - there's talk of scrapping the Department for Trade and Industry, for example. -- Arwel 01:45, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I was just wondering if previous versions of wikipedia pages (and talk ones) will be kept forever? Will it not be the case that eventually these will mount up into a huge (expensive to keep) heap of data? Of course I can see why if possible it would be good to keep as much as we can. I am not a tec' head perhaps I am over estimating the size of this heap. Any way just wondering if there are currently any plans to junk really old stuff/numerically early edits or we are just going to wait till it becomes a problem or whether it is not likely to become a problem for a long time.--JK the unwise 10:34, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
No names (pointing fingers )please. Trolls encounters generate disharmony. They bring out the worst in people. Innocent bystanders get hurt in the dispute wars. Vendettas start. etc. So its best not to make a big deal out of things or endanger youself by becoming one.--Jondel 09:33, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm a Latin fan. What does these literally mean? --Jondel 02:20, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Greetings! As a new user I tried to find something about 'inventions' & promptly got lost in the vastness of wiki. So I'd like to contact any & all others who have ideas / inventions (pat. or pend.) in order to find out what is being created in this wonderful /crazy world. I only have one that I'm working on right now, but I have some more in files. The USA is struggling in the world market, except where we always have shined - the innovation & invention category, and if someone has an idea, that might need a little help, and someone else can help, and they both can make a little ($) off it, and possibly help wiki out of it, that might be a good thing. Please excuse any misspellings. I couldn't find the spell-check button at the top, Tiredfingers
I have noticed that [18] has appropriated my entire article on urban seismic risk without any attribution to Wikipedia, and have even honoured me by copyrighting it! This site appears to be a sleazy pop-up trap. --Zeizmic 16:41, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is a message which is sent to every Polish project regarding the creation of Wikimedia Poland - a Polish local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. I've been informed there are quite a few Polish users on en.Wikipedia, who aren't registered on other projects - so I've decided this will be a good place to inform them on this fact. Again, sorry if some of you will decide this is spamming up your Village pump, but this is pretty important for us.
Original message:
Would someone like to post an English translation? — J3ff 10:32, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think several Wikipedians need a discussion on what to do with articles on prefixes. Any discussions must be made on Talk:List of English prefixes. Georgia guy 00:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
What about it?--83.138.136.92 16:55, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I've discovered that the Danish Wikipedi has at least one of my images that was given a different name and used without attribution. I know this kind of thing goes on all the time on the Internet, but I'm surprised to find it on Wikipedia. It is a (Bombus fraternus) on Eupatorium. It was renamed and posted at [19]
and at [20]
apparently by user Mosepors [21]
I happened on this by coincidence. I don't speak a word of Danish, and cannot find any translation tools. How can I find if other images have also been appropriated? How can I communicate with the Danish Wikipedia? Pollinator 19:50, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
Why doesn't this site work anymore?--212.100.250.214 06:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Greetings Wikipedians I am a user and would like to contribute but do not understand how to yet. I am a sociologist and philosopher and I teach psychology. May I contribute in some modest way? 1. The wiki categories on the main page are awkward to use and do not appear to be in logical order regarding subcategories. 2. Example; category: science: subcategory lists philosophy and psychology and social sciences (but does not list sociology)? 3. Behavioral science does not list sociology? 4. Philosophy does not link to critical thinking? cheers! ergot51
Thank you Cesar. OK. I see alphabetical, but I refer to category and subcategory heirarchy priority. I will create user account regarding; 1. The MAIN PAGE category: SCIENCE: does NOT list sociology. 2. Philosophy is not a science (eg. nor is math or logic). Perhaps a Humanities category would be appropriate? 3. Behavioral (spelling should be without "u" and consistent within wiki). 3. you can know a little about a lot, or a lot about a little, but no one knows it all- sorting the significant from the trivial? cheers! ergot51
Re: category. Thanks Trilobite. Pardon my ethnocentricism. You know how Americans are! I am in Pasadena California. I thought the behavoir spelling with a "u" was ye olde UK spelling. However, my suggestion was for wiki consistent form rather than style. Cesar my friend, if you peruse the parent catergories and subcategories you will find what you refer to as "bad form", rather than a logical and rational (ie: easy to navigate) classification heirarchy. Far be it from me to suggest an unwelcome edit to wiki veterans whom I respect and admire. In any event, let us adopt a common sensical perspective for a moment rather than taking a dogmatic stance concerning "the way it is". From a pragmatic view, does it make sense for a user to search wiki and not find sociology where psychology is listed? I do not mean to be redundant, but search from the Main page yourself as perhaps you do not use sociology reference as I and my 90 students do. That is, for example; category: science: subcategory lists philosophy and psychology and social sciences (but does not list sociology)? BehavioUral science lists social psychology (and itself in articles- is this what you mean by bad form?)but does not list sociology? Philosophy does not link to Critical Thinking(very popular in contemporary academic curriculums- I teach this class too) The Main page CULTURE lists philosophy, but does not list sociology or anthropology? Let me ask you if that makes sense? Maybe I am confused. The Main page parent catergory Geography does not list subcategory social science. I thought that geography was a social science? Main page category History does not list social science in its subcategory or articles? I thought that History was a social science? Maybe I am being too wiki-picky? Peace! ergot51
[22] THIS IS ASTOUNDING. 2 years + of editing 500+ entries - wrecking havoc in EVERY SINGLE ON OF THEM. Why is this account not banned for a good year?
Lotsofissues 15:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Streetcar and Talk:Metro. I'm trying to get the word out to prevent low turnout. Basically the argument is whether to merge two regional names for the same concept. Streetcar has the additional fun of light rail being thrown into there, basically meaning any new streetcar system that the promoters want to promote as futuristic, but it is used in a serious fashion to describe systems. --SPUI (talk) 21:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Could somebody explain to me what is happening in bg.wiktionary.org because i don't speak the language. The thing is, they are registering new pages by the minute for the begining of the day or so. 24.201.116.26 17:10, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please contribute to List of the Great Boners of all time. This article has an incredible potential for expansion! - Pioneer-12 04:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yes, if we have a list of (what some consider to be) greatest movies we should have a list of (what some consider to be) greatest boners. It's just a matter of a more precise name. - Pioneer-12 19:05, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think we just got the best free advertising we could have. Rush Limbaugh not only mentioned us (as a "left wing online encyclopedia") but REFERENCED us, on the matter of Pope Benedict XVI, about whether or not he was a willing member of the Hitlerjugend. I loved it. --Golbez 19:30, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)
At one point back in the early '90s, Limbaugh gave out his e-mail address (on CompuServe), but pompously asserted that he would delete, unread, any mail that came from an Internet address (as opposed to a CompuServe address), because the Internet was nothing but a bunch of dirty, smelly, leftists from academia who got net access at others' expense, while Compu$erve users were a higher breed of people because they paid for their own access. *Dan* 03:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
BWAHAHAHA! This is hilarious! What an endorsement. — Trilobite (Talk) 10:13, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Update: I missed the next broadcast, but a friend tells me Rush was told it was a "left wing" site by a staffer, whom is presently being flogged for his error. --Golbez 17:16, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
Not sure whether this is the correct place to put this (I should know - I'm an admin, dammit. Sigh), but there's been a major snafu at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria. About 24 hours ago (I'd guess) there was a glitchy edit which resulted in the page doubling in length - the whole list, followed by the whole list again - you know the sort of thing. Unfortunately, since then, there have been quite a few edits to the page, with additions to both the top copy and the bottom copy of the page. It's all got too tangled for me to know exactly how to fix it up... anyone able to help? Grutness|hello? 07:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
HELP!
When I see Recent Changes lately, instead of seeing the usual picture, I just see one single line of text. Who did that?? Georgia guy 22:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi. I am busy trying to modify wikimedia code to protect against so-called VandelBots. Does anyone know where I can get one so I can test it against my test-wikipedia to see if my code changes are working? Stormtroop 13:18, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The best vandal-bots are implemented in wetware. -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 03:56, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
When people write paper encyclopedia on an evolving topic, they only need to write the current state of the matters because they know that historians can compare the 2005 edition to the 1995, 1905 edition and figure out how things have changed over time. Wikipedia is a living encyclopedia, there is only one edition, the current edition. Do contributors need to adjust their writing style and try to present the past and present more than they would in a paper encyclopedia?
For example, people are writing about computers as they are today. Ten years later, when people want to research how computers evolved between 2005 and 2015. Wikipedia will not serve such purpose well because by then there will not be a 2005 edition. Reviewing 10 year worth of edit history in the database can be overwhelming.
Another example: A few years ago, I started an article on American Chinese cuisine trying to document the dying American culture known as Choy Suey houses. The article evolved and it now documents the current Chinese cuisine in the US which is no longer resemble what Choy Suey used to be. Strictly speaking, there is no more Choy Suey house in the US because Chinese cuisine in the US has become authentic Chinese cuisine due to a large number of skilled restauranteurs among new immigrants. The wikipedia topic died along with the real-life topic. Is it right for an encyclopedia to lose track of things that have faded away in history? What is the proper procedure to stop this phenomenon in wikipedia?
Kowloonese 23:30, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
Or History of Chinese cuisine in the United States, or something like that. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:15, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
The answer to this question is in this web site at the present time. When I find it I will be delighted to share it with all of the people starting with a posting on this web site. Than you. T. C. Rath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastico http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrifica
"Great Depression" "See also" includes:
Aftermath of GAY SEX VOL.1 The Great ANAL in Canada The FUDGE PUNCHERS in the United Kingdom The QUEER Deal
Please do something about this. Thank you.
I tried to be proactive, but couldn't figure out the Wiki edit method. I went from "Help" [which was not helpful] to "Contact us" [which did not Eddress right off the bat] to... Wiki is not computer/net-illiterate friendly, try as I might. Sorry. Otherwise, I love, dote, refer and daily Wiki.
Oh, and thanx fer attending to the situation.
Thanx ALL! I love Wiki, so, I'll get involved.
I was looking to check on the Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends page, and "Future Episodes" are missing. WHo did it?
and I leave with an even stronger faith in the potential dangers to truth posed by open-sourced knowledge bases. Apologies if the typos predominate in this post. I am tired, and do not presently have the motivation to spell check.
I certainly had no intention to visit this site on last Friday evening, the sixth of May. I was searching for information on regarding a newly announced al Qaeda capture in Pakistan. I was surprised to see that a wikipedia link had such a high listing on a current news item, and assumed it was older data, which is what I was seeking.
I felt there was something wrong with the story. There was a large amount of data swirling around the story, but I had already discovered that it consisted of very little in terms of varied content, and almost all had been generated since the capture had occurred. I tasted propaganda, and was curious.
Almost hysterically obtuse was the often repeated claim that al-libbi's notoriety was completely derived from his being the Mastermind behind multiple failed assassination attempts, and that it was this mastery of failure to complete operations to a fruitful completion that had earned him the the 3 position at al Qaeda.
Is al Qaeda involved in a battle against the Peter Principle as is Mr. Bush? Laughable, pure obvious spin, and I wanted some more data. Yes, I freely admit it, I stand in opposition to the Bush Presidency, I firmly believe that the administration misused, distorted and manufactured data, and have hid from there own setup investigations. I believe that any president who takes America into a war under pretexts, subsequently found to be untrue is unfit to lead. I believe that the Bush admin's policies violate the 5th, 6th, 8th and 13th amendments to the US Constitution. I believe that his holding of humans without due process; his assent to their mistreatment is antithetical the the American Ideal, is inhumane, and unchristian like. I feel that his willingness to distort the constitution in his War Upon terrorism fought against actors he has left unproven as terrorists, is an open sign of his personal cowardice and his own lack of belief in the American system. The president was never empowered to strip the basic rights of humankind away from anyone not convicted under due process of law. Bush is a usurper of liberty, simply, a tyrant. Clear enough?
Yes I have of late waxed hyperbolic, but I have never as, was alleged when a whole post of data was simply deleted from the talk page stated anything close to a Bush=Hitler argument, my posts were deleted and I was slanderer unjustly in the stated cause for the deletion. I would consider calling Bush Hitler to be an insult, but I could care less if the target of the insults were Bush. Anyone alleging that this is what I have done suffers from a misguided sense of self-worth in the performance of their dutiful obligations as a tool. To claim Bush=Hitler is to insult to everyone who died, fought or suffered during WWII. It would also serve as an aid in empowering a venal and vindictive wager of unlawful war upon Iraq. What other definition can be given a premeditated aggressive war against a country predicated upon data cherry picked, sexed up and manufactured?
Bush acts evilly, but his expression of it has all too often been petty, base and juvenile, and predicated upon a need to satiate his own personal vengeance. Don't anger Mr. Bush, he'll roll the Ambassador's wife. Hitler? Hardly!
Bush is a poseur Connecticut Cowboy, a tin-horn hack wearing a 37qt Stetson.
I am unabashedly biased, without question. I am also willing to argue this bias is justifiable on it merits. Name the forum. If the war issue makes you uncomfortable, would you care to defend the Christian heresy of Bush as evidenced in his acts? I choose King James Versions, at twenty paces, high noon, next Sunday.
It seems that wikipedia has at least one censor unwilling to engage in open dialogue though, who chose instead to simply delete, and state dishonest rationales for the deletions on the logs, knowing full well that the chances someone would actually check their allegations is slim to none.
I also came to wikipedia understanding that my deeply held convictions make me unsuitable as an author in the al-Bibbi article, which is why I stayed on the talk-page side, and refrained from deleting what I believe to be errant data on either the article page or the talk page.
I was the first to post on this talk page, I questioned the official story before I had seen solid evidence in the streams. I have chosen to post under anonymous credentials at this time. Unless I am mistaken, this is still allowed on wikipedia:
page reference - Talk:Abu_Faraj_al-Libbi,
also
I offered a fairly good amount of solid data on the talk page, along with my diatribes. Personal honour kept me from directly editing the article. Sadly I find that wikipedia still has at least one who wills to be king, who does not understand why honour should prevail in an open-sourced knowledge base, if veracity is to be maintained.
I retured to the page last evening to find that someone was completely opposed to the usage of the Times Article I think should be held as an authoritarian citation:
Read the article and I think you'll find that it has been credibly sourced, and thoroughly researched. It is sad that the Bush administration's intelligence capabilities have not shown the same capacity for honest research and sourcing of their false claims which justified the Iraq invasion.
I also discovered specious and/or deceptive arguments and citations being used to justify the opposition to the article.
I posted these reservation's. My allegations and counter arguments were quickly stripped away.
I came here last night with several new pieces of data to offer, and I found that three were as yet uncited. I have chosen not to give them, because I have found that the problems I've encountered previously on this site may have even gotten worse since my last visit.
I freely choose NOT to give to this site.
But I will offer a warning and advice, even though I have no reason to think it will be heeded. Soon, people will come to realise that wikipedia's knowledge base is too easily jacked by biased editors, and that no proper methodology of oversight exists to stem this.
If this continues without resolution within open-source knowledge bases, the concept will whither and die. I believe open-sourced knowledge is a good concept, and have in the past and will in the future contribute to open sourced content sites that I feel I can aid, and have faith in the propriety of their methodologies.
cheers mates, I know that overall you are trying, and it is a difficult task, and am sorry I am unable to aid at this time.
if history and cycles serve the future in the same frequency as the past, I reckon my next inbound pass at wikipedia to be 6 months to a year.
will for peace, and America, turn and face the facts honestly; if our dreamtime dissipates, we are lost.
an ally who traverses the streams on the elliptic.
For some reason, somebody may have listened to me about a corporate wiki. This would probably be a technical definition site (seems safe enough!). Does anybody have links or experiences on this? Or some good corpo-speak on the issue? --Zeizmic 20:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
A new and very enthusiastic user, User:Monkofthetrueschool, is being exceptionally productive at adding articles on Ecology and forests. This is a great thing, but he needs some copyediting and gentle guidance on the way of Wikipedia. Anyone willing to help out can check his contributions. Thanks. DJ Clayworth 20:04, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
and i leave with an even stronger faith in the potential dangers to truth posed by open-sourced knowledge bases. Apologies if the typos predominate in this post. i am tired, and do not care enough here to spell check.
i certainly had no intention to visit this site on last friday evening, the sixth of May. I was searching for information on regarding a newly announced al Qaeda capture in Pakistan. I was surprised to see that a wikipedia link had such a high listing on a current news item, and assumed it was older data, which is whatr i was seeking.
I felt there was something wrong with the story. There was a large amount of data swirling around the story, but i had already discovered that it consisted of very little in terms of varied content, and almost all had been generated since the capture had occured. I tasted propaganda, and was curious.
Almost hysterically obtuse was the often repeated claim that al-Libbi libbi's noteriety was completrely derived from his being the Mastermind behind mutiple failed assassination attempts, and that it was this mastery of failure to complet oeprations to a fruitful completion that had earned hi the the 3 position at al Qaeda.
Is al Qaeda invovled in a battle against the Peter Principle as is Mr. Bush? Laughable, pure obvious spin, and i wanted some more data. Yes, i freely admit it, i stand in opposition to the Bush Presidency, I firmly believe that the administraion misued , distored and manufactured data, and have hid from there own set-up investigations. I believe that any president who takes America into a war under pretexts, subsequently found to be untrue is unfit to lead. I believe that the Bush admin's policies violate the 5th, 6th, 8th and 13th amendments to the US Constitution. I believe that his holding of humans withou due proces; his assent to their mistreatment is antithetical the the American Ideal, is inhumane, and unmchristianlike. I feel that his willingnes to distort the constitutionm in his War Upon terrorism fought against actors he has left unproven as terrorists, is an open sign of his personal cowardice and his own lack of belief in the American system. The president was never empowered to strip the basic righs of humankind away from anyone not convicted under due process of law. Bush is a usurper of liberty, simply, a tyrant. Clear enough?
Yes i have of late waxed hyperbolic, but i have never as, was alleged when whole posts of data were simply deleted from the talk page stated anything close to a Bush=Hitler argument, my posts were deleted and i was slandered unjustly in the stated cause for the deletion. I would consider calling Bush Hitler to be an insult, but i could care less if the target of the insults were Bush. It is an insult to everyone who died, fought or suffered during WWII to compare this venal and vindictive wager of unlawful war upon Iraq. Oooh yes bush, evil, he'll roll the ambassador's wife, he will circle Kansas in AF1 after his clueless implementation of the Presidency as a mon-fri 9-5 gig finds itself at the helm on Sept. 11, 2001.
Bush is a tin-horn hack wearing a 37qt stetson.
anyway, i feel that i offered a fairly good amount of solid data on the talk page, along with my diatribes. I also personally hold that it would be improper of me to delete any data in the articcle or the talk simply because of my aforementioned bias.' Sadly i find that wikipedia still has their lil pretenders the throne, who do not understand why honour should prevail in an open-sourced knowledge base, if veracity is to be maintained. I retured to the page last evening to find that someone was completely opposed to the Times Article's usage:
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad, Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’, The Times (UK), May 08, 2005
Read the article and I think you'll find that it has been credibly sourced, and thoroughly researched. It is sad that the Bush administration's intelligence capabilities have not shown this capacity.
I also discovered specious and/or deceptive arguments and citations being used to justify the opposition to the article.
My allegations and counter arguments were quckly stripped away.
I came here last night with several new pieces of data to offer, three not cited as yet. I have chosen not to give them, and i found that the problems i've encountered previously on this site may have even gotten worse than my last visit.
But i will give a warning and advice, even though i have no reason to think it will be heeded. Soon, people will come to realise that wikipedia's knowledge bsse is to easily jacked by biased editors, and that no proper methodology of oversight exists to stem this.
If this continues without resolution within open-source knowledge bases, the concept will whither and die, and i believe it is a good concept, and have in the past and will i the future constribute to some that i feel i can aid, and feel that a proper oversight exists.
cheeers mates, if history and cycles serve the future in ths same timing as the past, i figure by next inbound pass at wikipedia to be 6 months to a year.
page - Talk:Abu_Faraj_al-Libbi, if the wiki history functions haven't been jacked, what i placed will remain. It is record, I believe my instincts have been proven true in regard to al-Libbi's exaggerated rank. I also bleieve that the obstruction going on there to keep The Sunday Times Article is reprehensible, dishonest and Orwellian. These are assuredly not stated purpose of wikipedia's, are they?
Just wondering, but what exactly does "((Template:Pending deletion))" mean? When will it be deleted? I'm just wondering because I've come across a few that have lingered since January. Is that long (and maybe they've been forgotten), or is that normal? Thanks. --Dmcdevit 01:40, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Silly question, probably... I've been wanting to add pictures of artworks to some artist biographies I've been writing, but have no idea whereabouts you can find free-use pictures. There must be a way, given that there are quite a number in WikiCommons, but I've no idea where they are sourced from. Anyone able to give me some clues? Grutness...wha? 01:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
Here one, hear all. I failed miserably in my attempt to donate some of my "winnings" from poker tourney that never came. I did my best but was pipped at the post and returned empty handed. had i won that i was thinking of donating a 5th of my winnings to Wikipedia (first prize was 6 grand). I guess good guys finish last. btw I had 2 Kings and my opponent had 2 Queens and hit his 3rd queen on the flop. and i was a flop. ironically he won the tourney an hour later. talk about insult to injury--Idleguy 08:12, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
I failed, too. I bought a Lloyds of London insurance policy which would pay a fifth of a million dollars to Wikipedia if I was hit by a meteor on the 8th of May. The rest was going to my cat. Am I a philanthropist yet?
Amazingly, a trivial subsection in a trivial article has managed to stir some polemics concerning what is the standard of the language to be used on Wikipedia. I'm sure most people here have at least heard of the politically incorrect cartoon South Park. In the article dedicated to the feature film, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, there's a subsection on the soundtrack of the movie, which was released on cd. Naturally, some of the titles for the songs contain offensive language (one of the songs is called "Kyle's Mom's a Bitch", for instance). Thinking that it would be nice to keep some sort of standard, I used a simple trick and "broke" the sentence using stars (as in "Kyle's Mom's a B**t). It was always clear what the word (and thus the sentence) meant and there would be no need to reproduce on Wikipedia the "cursing". The stars have been reverted repeatedly, however, sometimes by anons, sometimes by registered users, and now the "full version" is on, and the [registered] user that reverted it back claimed to be eliminating "censorship" from the article. There's also a ramification that some of the songs have been given their own articles. Someone created the article "Kyle's Mom's a Bitch", I moved it to "Kyle's Mom's a B**t", but someone moved it back, and now we have the article Kyle's Mom's a Bitch — that stuff is run mainly by anons, who seem to have very little understanding of Wikipedia beyond the articles they want to edit (for instance, they were posting the full lyrics to the songs, an obvious copyvio).
How to proceed with this? There's very little point in keep going back and renaming the links in the movie article and moving the articles just to have someone revert it all back again. Or is it that I'm wrong, and it's fine to have language (and articles) such as those in Wikipedia? It's certainly not censorship, since I reckon that would be the case if we were supressing the track listing altogether on account that the we didn't approve of the language used in the song titles... Regards, Redux 04:36, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
All right, I see that this is pretty much accepted. I'll let it go then. My only concern was keeping Wikipedia up to standards, if that's not an issue here, all the better. Btw, thanks Wahoofive, the "B**t" instead of "B***h" was a side effect of late night editing. I do feel that some people tend to exaggerate however. "Censorship" is a completely misguided assessment of what was going on in that article, goes to show why some people believe that "witch hunts" are going on all over the website. Regards, Redux 16:39, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
In My View seems to be just an advertisement for a 2-suite hotel-thingy in Australia, not encyclopedic. I threw an NPOV flag on it, but perhaps that's too generous; it is quite likely a deletion candidate. So, go look and act on it, or something. Also, there's probably somewhere better I could have posted this, but I failed to find it; could someone please tell me where that is? Thanks.
What is the copyright status of a website that has been abandoned since March 2001? http://www.danger-ahead.railfan.net is a very good resource for rail accident information, and back when it was regularly updated was the best place online for news about current rail accidents. It is still probably the best for some historic accidents (e.g. Salisbury). I have tried emailing the address of the webmaster several times over the past few years, but have never received a response. Thryduulf 10:48, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
The Los Angeles Times published a nice editorial about us (a few days ago, but I didn't see it until just now) -- you can either log in to their site and find it, or read it here [24]. Have a look! Antandrus 03:52, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
Today's Foxtrot comic strip mentions Wikipedia; there's mainstream acceptance if I ever saw it. Now if the strip just didn't happen to encourage vandalism... keep Rabies and Warthog on your watchlists! —Wahoofive (talk) 16:34, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
I put the above heading into search, and came up with you. I am not quite sure what you folks are about, but it seemed someone might know about the swastika connected with carlsberg. I have bottle with a ceramic pull down top that says carlsberg, and the bottom of the bottle also has carlsberg with a 42. With the swastika on both the top and bottom, and number 42, I thought perhaps this was a wwII bottle. Any thoughts? This is the only sight that connected the swastika to carlsberg. I am just curious, any help would be appreciated. If I am in the wrong place I apologise! Thanks, Devidog
To all of you that contributed to the article Gaia theory (science), you can take pride in this recent discovery. In an article titled "The So-called Gaia Theory" (Skeptical Inquirer, 29(3), May/June 2005) Massimo Pigliucci (p. 21) makes this attribution:
Wow! For those of you unfamiliar with Skeptical Inquirer, I can only tell you that it is very exciting to me as a scientist to see that the likes of M. Pigliucci considers Wikipedia worth his time to visit, read, AND mention! - Marshman 02:48, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
Is there some wikiproject to maintain pages that need to have access to a dumped database (such as List of lists, Wikipedia:Most wanted articles, WP:IT for the image list, etc.)? I find that they frequently are in need of updating, and I wonder if there is already some project I can join to help. Gkhan 18:37, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
I hope this is ok to post this, please accept my appologies if it isn't. I've been a longtime fan of wikipedia and done some minor contributions in the past; unfortunately, writing has never been my strong point.
Since web design and programming are more my strength, I present to you: YotoPhoto.com This is a search engine that indexes various public domain, Creative Commons and other similarly licensed images from throughout the web. You can search several different image resources (including stock exchange, en.wikipedia and commons) at one time.
It's still beta, but currently contains over 50,000 images for your wiki'ing pleasure. Enjoy!
(now to figure out how to create a login on here so I don't keep posting anonymously....)
I would love to hear from any friendly lady for friendship. Sgt. Lin underemployed@yahoo.com I live in ft. Lewis but email is good for me.
Every time I enter a new Wikipedia page, I keep seeing the "You have new messages" since about an hour ago even though nobody edited my user talk page since then. Any way to fix this?? Georgia guy 22:39, 5 May 2005 (UTC)