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User:mlc409[edit]

Suspected sockpuppeteer

mlc409 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Ichbinbored (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Gordon39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Neuro2112 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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IrishGuy ^talk 14:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

mlc409 and Ichbinbored are the authors of the hoax article Janicism. During the AfD, they seem to have trouble remembering which of them is which ascribing behavior to one account that actually happened with the other. mlc409 claimed that he would scan a newspaper article [1]. Soon after, the scan showed up. Later, Ichbinbored refered to the article that he claimed mlc409 scanned [2]. In fact, it was Ichbinbored who uploaded it [3] yet they both continued to speak of it as something mlc409 did. Gordon39 is a brand new account that immediately nominated mlc409 for adminship. [4] IrishGuy ^talk 14:38, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

It's quite evident the user mlc409 has created these alter-egos in a desperate attempt to support his worthless contributions and nominations. The validity of account Gordon39 is also questionable. Bungle44 15:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am not a sock puppet. Look at mine and mlc409's contributions. He has written an article on speedcuffs, as he happens to know a lot about police equipment. I wrote an article on Riddlesdown High School because I go there. I don't know about Gordon39. But I can tell you, I am actually a completely different person. Ichbinbored ^talk 16:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mlc409 didn't create the speedycuffs article...an editor named Mawich did. In fact, his only edits to that article were to revert vandalism by the same IP that keeps showing up on the Janicism AfD...ten minutes after it happened so it's pretty clear he wasn't simply patrolling the recent changes. How oddly convenient that he just knew to pop over to that article and find some vandalism. IrishGuy ^talk 17:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some other things that might help. This person has signed an edit of his as mlc409 (and another too) (though the edit was removed, mlc409 later wrote in the same thing), and created the vandalism which mlc409 reverted. He has removed hoax tags from the Janicism article as well. slippered sleep 17:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Notice that the recent edits on this very page were signed by mlc409, but were by 82.43.105.204, the same address I previously mentioned. slippered sleep 19:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am adding Neuro2112 to the mix as he suddenly showed up and his first edit was to prod an article I authored. IrishGuy ^talk 19:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well what can I say? You're wasting your time. MLC409 & ichbinbored are different accounts owned by different people. I do not own ichbinbored, I can guarantee you. And this will be shown purely by I.P. address checks I'm sure. Don't waste your time pursuing this! mlc409
I will tell you once again, I EXIST. Neuro2112 is not a sockpuppet either, if your userpage has been vandalised 107 times then it is completely likely that ONE of your articles will be edited by someone else. This is just paranoia induced by edits. I have explained how the newspaper article came into being, and this seems to be the only reason for you thinking that I am a sockpuppet. Thnak you. Ichbinbored ^talk 13:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to find out if I am a sockpuppet, run Checkuser. And why are there only 3 suspected sockpuppets here, while on the link on mlc409s userpage it shows 24? Run checkuser and settle this once and for all. I am fed up with being accused of not existing. Ichbinbored ^talk 13:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ichbinbored fessed up to the fake image on Irishguy's talk page,[5] which was enough evidence (for me, at least) to ban both Ichbinbored and mlc409 for a month (only reason that I didn't ban them for longer is that they have made other contributions, and aren't single-purpose accounts). EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

The two main ones are almost certainly different people, since they both edited at 08:13 - Ichinbored, 08:14 - Mlc409, 08:15 - Ichinbored on December 3, 2006. They're clearly friends, collaborators, and somewhat confused, but different people. Blocking Gordon39 as a vandalism-only account, sockpuppet or not. Neuro2112 has made a misguided PROD, but that isn't clear cut vandalism, and hasn't contributed anything to relate to one of these. AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 04:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]