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User:Ivan Kricancic[edit]

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Ivan Kricancic (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppet

Rts freak (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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Kruško Mortale 16:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

User:Rts freak and User:Ivan Kricancic cooperated in History_of_the_Bosniak_people article in order to revert changes. They pretended to be different users. User:Rts freak pretented to be an ethnic Bosniak, while Ivan Kricancic according to his user page hates the Bosniak people. This is obvious abuse in Bosniak History article:[1] and [2]. Two "different" reverts by suspected sock puppet in "controversial" article. Second thing is that he pretends to be a Bosniak which is rude and unfair, in order to humiliate a nation.

Comment

First of all, I take offence at being called a "sockpuppet". Second of all, it is very offensive for Kruško to accuse me of not being a Bosniak - my parents are ethnic Bosniaks who migrated to Australia; does the fact that I was born in Australia mean I'm any less Bosniak. Besides, I think that growing up in Australia where there are many migrant communities has given me the ability to interact better with people of different backgrounds, which is why I can interact in a civil manner with users such as Ivan Kricancic (who, is not a full Croat - it states on his user page that he is Croat, Filipino and Spanish). I have read the talk page of History of the Bosniak people and it seemed to me that the tags are indeed justified, so I put them back on the article. I won't edit that article or it's talk page until this case is over, though, just in case some sort of conflict of interest arises. And, no, from Ivan's user page, I would not say that he hates Bosniaks, but it is easy to see that he is ill-informed about us as he thinks that we are just Croats and Serbs who converted to Islam. But I believe that working with him on former-yugo article on Wikipedia can help to educate him about Bosniaks, until his point of view about us will be changed. Another point is, just because I share an interest in Smallville does not make me a sockpuppet of Ivan's - there are many users who contribute to Smallville articles, are they all someone's sockpuppets as well? I really think that it is very possible (in fact it's happening right now) that at least two people who have a South Slavic ethnic background could be interested in articles about their ancestry and also share an interest in a certain T.V show (especially since both Ivan and I are from Australia). My final thing to say is, that I even had suspicions that, based on their edit style, edit patterns and use of broken English, User:Kruško Mortale was a sockpuppet of User:Bosniak or User:Ancient Land of Bosoni (the latter of whom also has the accounts User:Ancient Bosoni and User:Bosoni), but I didn't make any accusations because that would have been bad faith behaviour on my part, just like this is bad faith behaviour on Kruško's part, because he's just doing this because I made one edit that he didn't agree with. I hope you admins make the right decision. Goodbye. - [rts_freak] | 5p34k 2 /\/\3 23:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to say that administrator Duja supports me to do this (you can see that in my talk page), because he also thinks that Rts freak might be a sock puppet. The above explanation by suspected user is not enough, so the best thing is to check him, I am now sure more than ever because he also made a very important mistake about Bosniaks when he pretended to be one of them, which no Bosniak will ever make, but this is enough for now...Yours. Kruško. Kruško Mortale 16:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Mr. User:Rts freak's suspicions, I totally support him. He can make the same request as I did. But remember that I am 100% sure that this user is a sock puppet. Yours. Kruško. Kruško Mortale 16:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Note: Moved from Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/LorenzoPerosi1898 (2nd). MER-C 13:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

Case proven. Besides common interests, origins, and residences, they both edit the exact same deletion disputes minutes after each other, with the same opinions, and even same misspellings (it's). If they aren't the same person, they are brothers editing from the same computer.

04:52, September 28, 2006 Ivan_Kricancic Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 September 27 [3]
04:58, September 28, 2006 Rts_freak Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 September 27 [4]
00:33, September 29, 2006 Rts_freak Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 September 29 [5]
00:37, September 29, 2006 Ivan_Kricancic Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 September 29 [6] Note their identical rationale for keeping fair use images.
11:40, December 1, 2006 Ivan_Kricancic Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petula Shaw-Dennis [7]
11:43, December 1, 2006 Rts_freak Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Petula Shaw-Dennis [8] Note that this was Rts_freak's only edit for 3 days before and 6 days after - he logged on, wrote "Delete - Per nom. I mean, come on." in an AfD, and logged off for six more days.

Blocking Rts_freak, strongly warning Ivan Kricancic not to do that again. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:19, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]