RobertRosen

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17 November 2012
Suspected sockpuppets

User:RobertRosen is on an indefinite block for his personal attacks/ harassment directed at me and issuing legal threats to Wikipedia. After his block, User:Arunaroy started participating in the discussions RobertRosen was involved in and signed their post at WP:BLPN as B K Das, which is the same person (B&&&&v K666r Das) RobertRosen claims to be. Check the link in their post for an Email address (b55555@gmail.com).

  • User:OsianFan started editing at Korkoro where me and RobertRosen had some disagreements over his content removal and replaced the contentious sentence with an uncited claim.
  • IndianBLP Not many edits, but mainly directed at Anuradha and Kobad Ghandy and my talk page.
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  1. I am an accused in this matter. I state as follows. I am a confirmed and verified editor at a competing wikipedia project "Scholarpedia" where RobertRosen is an Admin. Like many academics I do not edit at crowd sourced Wikis with unverified users and rampant sockpuppetry such as Wikipedia. The unfair block of an expert editor/ScholarpediaAdmin like RobertRosen has caused much discussion at Scholarpedia.
  2. A very recent previous CheckUser request by MWilliam against RobertRosen on WP:ANI for the very same Aruna Roy incident was declined after considerable discussion. [1]. Here William has admitted his complaint was baseless "I can't think of any socks" causing Admin:GiantSnowman to overturn the WP:SPI initiated.
  3. For the allegations made against me, a) User:YouReallyCan's "dif" never wrote that my editing pattern is similar to Rosen's. What he actually said to William was [2] and also this [3] b) Whatever I wrote about Vigilonline.com was taken from previous edits by RobertRosen at Wikipdia which I read and researched here on my own. It was not given to me by Rosen.
  4. RobertRosen had previously disclosed on his own he has very recently (2 days back) set up a VPN for users of NIC.IN TLD (ie. entire Govt of India servers who are IP range blocked from editing at Wikipedia till 2016) like Aruna Roy to set up accounts at Wikipedia and protest their articles. Aruna Roy is a member National Advisory Council (http://nac.nic.in) and is range blocked from complaining about her article. I am at ".ac.in" and am range blocked. I know Aruna Roy personally. So we friends of Aruna Roy are joining wikipedia and using VPN technology to register our protest at 2 things at Wikipedia A) libelous text on living Indians like Aruna Roy B) Unfair blocking of Robert Rosen.
  5. If VPN is only way to access WikipEdia is it a crime to use it ? If Chinese and Iranians can use Freegate or Ultrasurf then why can't blocked Indian public servants. I don't know about the other accounts or their motivations but it may be similar. RobertRosen never asked me or anyone else I know to join Wikipedia or support him. It is his goodness which calls me here.
  6. I do not know RobertRosen or communicate with him. Everything I have posted here is from public Wikipedia pages. RobertRosen is one of the best editors to be found anywhere (see him at Scholarpedia) and even here at Wikipedia was respected for his consensus building among even seriously edit warring editors [4].
  7. Importantly the editor who made this complaint is a confirmed sockmaster himself known as User:Manorathan [5] operating under a new name MorelMWilliam. He has engaged in disruptive edit-warring with numerous other editors besides RobertRosen on pages like Aruna Roy spanning over 2 years and constantly refers to "conspiracy theories" by editors who disagree with him..
  8. About the edit-warring (3 reverts each) between RoberRosen and MorelMwilliam at Korkoro, William has WP:OWNership issues with that article. Now another long-term contributor to that page User:Truthkeeper88 has also reverted William and reinserted RobertRosen's Good faith edit [6].
  9. As posted elsewhere (at several places on Wikipedia) by RobertRosen, Wikipedia has blocked access to official Indian Government IP ranges til 2016. So 2 days ago RobertRosen set up a VPN tunnel for B.K.Das (on behalf of Aruna Roy who can't post to wikipedia because of blanket range block of the NIC.IN TLD servers) with exit nodes to public TOR exit nodes. This is already stated on talk page of RobertRosen 2 days back, One such public exit TOR server node is 180.151.50.98 (Spectranet/Chennai) see here [7]. Mr.B.K.Das is Director in Government of India in-charge for National Informatics Centre NIC.IN and has already disclosed he is "http://hub.nic.in" in charge of NIC.IN Top level domain [8] B.K Das is not "Bibhav Kumar" who actually works with Arvind Kejriwal who is having a recent nasty public dispute with Aruna Roy see here [9]
  10. RobertRosen is a senior admin at other scholarly wikipedia sites like scholarpedia. After his unjust block at Wikipedia instigated by former sockmaster Manorathan(aka MorelMWillliam) many outside editors are opening account on Rosen's VPN tunnel using public TOR exit nodes to ensure that RobertRosen's long legacy of good editing at Wikipedia is not damaged/vandalised by Sockmasters like Manorathan. RobertRosen has not hidden anything about use of VPN, it is on his talk page. If the Wikipedia IP range block on 164.xxx.xxx.xxx is opened all this VPN/TOR/PROXY nonsense will stop and sanity restored. Finally, also investigate previously confirmed Sockmaster MorelMWilliams to see how many accounts he has like User:Joyson Prabhu and if has also opened multiple accounts to link it to RobertRosen after he admitted on WP:ANI to Admin:GiantSnowman that he could not think of any socks of RobertRosen. HotPepperSpray (talk) 12:49, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
17 November 2012
Suspected sockpuppets

Note that BlackMansBurden created his account only around twelve hours after another RobertRosen sock, HotPepperSpray (talk · contribs) was indefinitely blocked. There are numerous similarities in the writing style and interests of both accounts, and note especially these two edits by BlackMansBurden and HotPepperSpray respectively. Reaper Eternal (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
26 November 2012
Suspected sockpuppets


The first account listed here filed a report at WP:ANI concerning TheRedPenOfDoom and two articles Barefoot College and Bunker Roy. That account was blocked as a sock of RobertRosen. Not very long after the ANI report was marked as resolved and while it was still visible on WP:ANI, a very similar ANI report concerning TheRedPenOfDoom was opened by Northerncreek who has almost exclusively edited the same two articles with the same point of view as BlackMansBurden. Mathsci (talk) 14:27, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Salvio. The three accounts listed below have been blocked by Uncle G. Mathsci (talk) 15:09, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
27 November 2012
Suspected sockpuppets


The users first posts consist of the claim that "each time I challenge his decision to include: " obviously indicate that this editor has otherwise been involved on the page contesting the Time source, 'the actions which have been conducted repeatedly by a plague of socks of RobertRosen. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:24, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Salvio has already CU-blocked and tagged this account as a sock of RobertRosen. Mathsci (talk) 03:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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