Mhsohaib

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04 November 2017

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I contacted There'sNoTime privately for a check on these two accounts based on behavioral evidence found in expired PRODs and drafts from Nassermh they were the same account as مرتضى يوسف, which I'll show below. When I went through to tag the articles as G5, I found that there were a signfificantly more articles than I expected, so I'm creating this case to link the two CU blocked accounts to the named master on-wiki behaviorally.

All three accounts focus on football clubs and players from Arabic-speaking regions. The editor compare utility shows significant interaction between all three accounts[1]. There are also several templates where all three users are essentially the only editors in recent history: [2], [3], [4], [5].

Nassermh also took to converting draftied articles by to the article mainspace as can be seen at: [6] and [7] (second diff has odd history because of histmerge that was needed for attribution after draftifying a second time). Both of these drafts were created by the named master and draftified in October by Boleyn, and then recreated identical to the drafts in mainspace by Nassermh, who then blanked then redirected the drafts. The master is stale, but given the CU blocks of the two accounts, this screams like a duck quaking into a megaphone to me.

As I mentioned above, I'm creating this SPI to make the behavioral link on-wiki given the large amount of G5s TonyBallioni (talk) 20:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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14 November 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

I've duck blocked both of these accounts: returning to the G5'd templates that only they have edited recently Return to G5'd template: [8],

Return to template heavily edited by other socks:[9], [10], [11].

Requesting CU here to see if there is anything that can be done about blocking the underlying range of these accounts and those in the archive and/or if other accounts are out there. A range block would probably be ideal if we don't have collateral damage, as these socks pop up every few days after the last one was blocked. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:19, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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20 December 2017

Suspected sockpuppets

Obvious DUCK. Recreated Fahad Al-Jumaiah, which was originally created by the CU confirmed sock Fedaamofeed (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki).

Requesting CU to look for other accounts as this user normally recreates an account immediately after autoblock wears off, and this account is a relatively new one compared to the last block. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't forget Abdullah Majrashi (footballer, born 1997) which was recently g5'd as well... CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 15:07, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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09 January 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

This account was actually one of my original guesses for the masters of the two accounts of the Arab soccer sock, but it was stale when I asked TNT for a check.

This account was blocked in July for 6 months. It's first edit after coming back was to recreate Ibrahim Sharahili, one of the articles that another sock had created.

I'd duck, but the only thing stopping me is that I believe both the master and this account are active on the Arabic Wikipedia where both were unblocked, so technical evidence could help to confirm. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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14 January 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Duck blocked the block evading IP for 3 months. Contributions show contributions that are almost exclusively the same as this sock family. Only filing the SPI for record keeping purposes. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:26, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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22 January 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Both blocked, simply filing to update the SPI. Focus on the same templates, articles, etc. that are essentially only edited by this sockmaster. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:10, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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13 March 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Obvious sock is obvious. See contribs: only edits are intersects with previously blocked socks on Arab football articles. Already blocked and tagged. Filing for the record. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:20, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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03 April 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

See deleted contributions and the page history of deleted pages. Obvious sock mass recreating previously created articles by this master. Already blocked, tagged, and creations G5'd. Filing for the record since there were a fair amount of G5s this time around. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:08, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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01 September 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Recreation of Muhannad Fallatah with identical prose to the previously deleted article for this master. Also recreated Ahmed Al-Fiqi which was originally created by another sock of this master. Asking for a CU because the account was a sleeper, he has had sleepers in the past, and this has cross-wiki implications with ar.wiki so I want to be sure. Last confirmed sock is Abdulhamidmido (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) TonyBallioni (talk) 14:17, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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05 October 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Just noting that I've blocked the above range per DUCK. Filing for the record. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:50, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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23 July 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


This started with my question at GiantSnowman's Talk page: User talk:GiantSnowman#New user. As you can see, Struway2 led me to look at the contributions of Lilianasri, who stopped editing a short time after Margheret began editing. I also noticed the last entry in the archive Special:Contributions/62.149.77.128/27. The IPs in that range have been engaged in block evasion for a long time, that last edit that I can see being on July 14, 2021 (I don't know if there's any way to see deleted contributions of IP ranges).

The interaction between the named accounts above, previous socks, and the IPs in that range makes this a duck case. Some examples:

  1. the edit history at 2019–20 Saudi Second Division (includes Margheret; Lilianasri; previously blocked socks User:Dyalafamhi, User:Tash-natasha, and User:Losail; and IPs);
  2. the edit history at deleted Carlos Geovane (includes Lilianasri and Nawafmashea);
  3. the edit history at deleted Francisco Pereira de Freitas Junior (includes Liliananasri and previously blocked sock Dyalafamhi);
  4. the edit history at Abdulrahman Al-Hurib (includes Margheret, Nawafmashea, previous sock User:مرتضى يوسف, the master, and the IPs)
  5. the edit history at Abdullah Al-Shammeri (footballer, born 1993) (includes Margheret, Lilianasri, the master, and the IPs)

As for behavior, all of these accounts create new footballer articles, new club articles, and categories. All of them also move articles without discussion.

I am requesting a CU to confirm the two non-stale accounts, Margheret and Liliansri, and to look for any sleepers. It sounds like the CU logs will also be of assistance in connecting the non-stale accounts to previous socks. In the meantime, I will block Margheret, the current account, without tags to prevent further block evasion and disruption. Bbb23 (talk) 17:54, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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28 September 2021

Suspected sockpuppets

This account was created very shortly after the previous batch of socks were blocked. The behaviour is exactly the same as before in that their interest is almost solely on Middle Eastern footballers with a strong focus on Saudi Arabia. As with all of the previous socks, they perform multiple page moves without consensus such as [12] [13]

Just look at their user contributions, they've done loads of random page moves. User:GiantSnowman and User:Struway2 looked into the previous socks so I'd be interested to see if they found any other similarities.

Please check for sleepers. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:30, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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15 November 2021

Suspected sockpuppets


Mhsohaib is a prolific block evader who starts up accounts now and then. I actually liked some of his work on Tunisian footballers, but the accounts that made these edits were indefinitely blocked and the page creations G5 deleted. Specifically, User:Tabarjal shows a very similar editing pattern to User:Lilianasri, concentrating mainly on stubs for football clubs on the Saudi Arabia third tier. Many of Lilianasri's G5 deleted contributions are now recreated under slightly different names. One example is Radwa Club, now incarnated as Radwa FC. Another example is Jarash Club, now surfacing as Jerash Club. As to the contents, the stubs are short and contain some peculiarities. One example is the capitalisation of "City", also present in the deleted articles. The article text is the same and the exact same sources are used, Koora and saff, which are formatted in the same way.

Granted, some pages also contain differences, such as Sajir Club and Sajir FC. Also, the user denies the connection to blocked accounts. I still think the similarities are so blatant that at least a check is in order. Geschichte (talk) 11:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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12 January 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

As with all previous socks, this 'new' account only edits Middle Eastern football, with a strong focus on Saudi Arabia. All of the new articles created follow the same format that the other socks used and will likely need WP:G5 again if this tests positive for being another sock. Also see multiple attempts to move pages without any consensus [16] [17] [18]. As with previous socks, there is also a lack of communication on their own talk page, even when questioned by Geschichte. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:18, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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22 May 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

I'm convinced that this is Mhsohaib again. Behaviour is identical to all previous socks and area of interest is exactly the same. Creates articles like Mohammed Fraih and Faisal Al-Ghamdi in exactly the same way as previous socks.

Other factors:

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16 June 2022

Suspected sockpuppets

Username matches pattern previously found (Firstlastnumbers). Communicative on their talk page. All edits are to middle-eastern footballers. First contribution is to a stub, then long gaps before substantial contributions recently. AfD struck rationale is under article created by different account: [22]. Iseult Δx parlez moi 06:40, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noornasser2019 fits the username pattern and has created multiple articles previously G5'd as creations of Losail: Mubarak Hassan, Ali Yaqoub, Rashid Lahi, for three. Iseult Δx parlez moi 23:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added Motuca; I'll acknowledge that this is more of a stretch, but they've recreated several articles previously G5'd (Losail), and maintain a consistent interest in these stubs, a pattern also mentioned below by Pika. Iseult Δx parlez moi 17:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin:, how recent is "recently"? I show User:Dyalafamhi and User:Lilianasri as responsive on their talks (see history) as early as 2020. Iseult Δx parlez moi 19:47, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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11 July 2023

Suspected sockpuppets

If you look at the overlap and recreation of Ahmed Al-Mohanadi that was previously created by Mhsohaib, it seems very ducky. APK whisper in my ear 10:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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12 January 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Same story as above: focus on Middle Eastern football, especially Saudi Arabia; significant overlap with the master; recreation of previous G5'd pages, e.g. Mishari Al-Qahtani; contentious page moves. – Joe (talk) 12:27, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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12 January 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Again, focus on Middle Eastern football, significant overlap of articles as seen at https://sigma.toolforge.org/editorinteract.py?users=Mhsohaib&users=89.237.148.254 Duck?

Also edits to blocked sock Qautro created articles, on e.g. Mohammed Al-Khaibari.

Suggest looking for sleepers too. Kj cheetham (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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