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User:Dbachmann, who is also an admin, does not have a good understanding of a basic Wikipedia Attribute WP:ATT policy. He is publishing original research on Wikipedia. When another user tries to put WP:OR tag on the article or put [citation needed] tag on the controversial comments, DBachmann removes the tags without providing citation. He starts edit warring to remove properly cited, relevant material and then misuses his admin power to block in content dispute.
This is a summary written by users who have initiated the request for comment. It should spell out exactly what the changes they'd like to see in the user, or what questions of behavior should be the focus. User:Dbachmann to show understanding of WP:ATT, WP:NOR and WP:CIV policy, and stop misusing his admin power --> Enforcement of WP:ATT policy on the article Indigenous Aryan Theory
Article Indigenous Aryan Theory is creating a new term without any citation to published material. All controversial statements in the article should have citation to material acceptable to WP:RS. The summary in the article should reflect statements of authors without changing the author's position. Any arguments or claims being presented in article should be attributed to published material.
I believe that there is very good reason that WP:ATT is an official policy. WP:NPOV or WP:UNDUE can not be implemented, if article is original research. It is responsibility of all editors to enforce WP:ATT. An admin should have more appreciation for this policy. In my mind there can be no justification for publishing original research on Wikipedia.
Only way to improve quality of controversial article is to enforce WP:ATT evenly on all editors.
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Sbhushan (talk · contribs) requesting that Dbachmann (talk · contribs) "show understanding of" WP:ENC and WP:ATT is frankly one of the more hilarious things I've seen on Wikipedia, and I think no further comment is needed, review of the surrealism going down on Talk:Indigenous_Aryan_Theory#Citation_of_sources should be of sufficient eloquence.
There is, however, a real problem with users like Sbhushan (WIN (talk · contribs), and others who change their account or IP numbers more frequently) who show a staggering innocence of not just knowledge of the topic (which is involved enough), but of some fundamental notions like 'consistency', 'coherence' we usually take for granted when we are saying we have a "dispute" or an "argument". At some point, meaningful debate just ceases to be feasible (Rudrasharman (talk · contribs) aptly invokes Hanlon's razor). I would welcome more admin attention to these topics in order to keep the editing process sane. dab (𒁳) 18:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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{Oppose.While I may have my set of differences with user Dab,I think he is a very good contributer and user.He,like many others (including me) has become a frequent target of a certain group of users who seek to take control over a set of articles or related topics.Dab is overall good and a valuable contributer.--Nadirali نادرالی}
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Comment I know very little about the area this page is concerned with, but this case has many parallels with Dab's recent establishment of a completely new and OR article and category of Illustrated manuscript. Except there there is no Bryant - he has done it all himself. I have cited at length references from very reputable sources to demonstrate that this attempt to carve out a distinct category for items that he wrongly claims are not covered by Illuminated manuscript has no academic recognition, but he has ceased to respond. The only thing the manuscripts have in common is that they are all Swiss or South German. Maybe this is the Indigenous Alpine Theory? I must say in fairness he has not used Administrator powers in this dispute. Johnbod 20:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Oppose I have not followed the Indigenous Aryan Theory page or the associated discussion, but in other areas I have found that Dab's editorial actions remain as a shining example of scholarly sanity in an area (Indian prehistory) in which nationalistic POV is rampant. Dab deserves the highest commendation for his work; this criticism is a classic example of how the mechanisms of Wikipedia can be abused against scholarly experts.
As to Johnbod's comments concerning the Illustrated manuscript page, as a medieval historian, I find Dab's brief presentation of uncontroversial material, with appropriate citations in the Literature and External Links sections, to be a fine encyclopedic article and anything but Original Research. This is a new article -- a work in progress if you wish -- and since Dab has expressed his willingness to integrate this article[36]into the existing article, Illuminated manuscript, he provides a fine example of cooperative editing. SteveMcCluskey 16:35, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment I have no particular expertise on the specific content of the articles involved in the Indigenous Aryan Theory and Out of India pages, and have not followed them closely, but my overall impression is that the conflict found on those pages is symptomatic of a larger cultural conflict that takes place on many Hinduism pages involving many users. The conflict specifically noted by this request for comment is therefore a canary in the mine. I am unfamiliar with the details of the conflict resolution processes on Wikipedia, but I hope that those who are external to the pages will begin by looking at the broad patterns of editing by all users involved. Buddhipriya 16:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I have some issues with this user User:Dbachmann's edits too, which, as per the instructions I received on Adminstrator's notice board, I am posting here. Sisodia 22:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
This user also violates a fundamental Wikipedia policy, WP:NPOV, which is considered absolute and non-negotiable.
This user has recently created 3 redirect pages namely
Hindutva revisionism [37]
Hindutva pseudoscience [38]
Hindutva propaganda [39]
Terms like revisionism, pseudoscience and propaganda are inherently disapproving and dismissive in nature. Moreover, since they directly refer to Hindu religion, they can also me considered defamatory and discriminatory. I believe this not only jeopardizes Wikipedia’s neutrality, it even pushes Wikipedia onto shaky legal grounds.
Sisodia 22:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I wasn't involved in this dispute, but user Dbachmann (aka dab) (plus rudra) have/are showing a non-neutral view. His talk page has been archived 3 times in 3 months. Many people have expressed similar problems with dab on article talk pages, concerning ganging-up, and shouting down people. I have asked him in a current dispute [Aryan Invasion Theory Article] to provide sources/citations for his claim/argument because it sounds contrived (original research/thought), but he just puts the same 2 or 3 sentences, as his arguments, where I have sourced the information. He is very disruptive, and seems to take away from Wikipedia, rather than adding positive changes. He lacks any transparency. Cosmos416 00:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Comment: I have noticed that Dbachmann often is rather uncivil[40][41][42][43][44] and so on. // Liftarn
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