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I have worked in several maintenance & anti-vandalism areas in Wikipedia. I know that me becoming an admin is a long way away but I'm asking that if I continue my current patterns, do you think I will have a successful RfA in approximately 8 to 12 months? Thanks Music1201 talk 00:44, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

AustralianRupert

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G'day all, I have been editing Wikipedia since January 2009. I am largely a content contributor, but I have also found myself doing some admin type work in my role as a co-ordinator of the Military history project. This has seen me reviewing articles, assessing them, closing reviews/determining consensus, participating in discussions about policy, etc. I have also gotten involved at AFD, and have been working on clearing out Category:PD-Australia images with unknown US copyright status and Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons by transferring files to Commons. If I was to become an admin, I would be interested in using the tools to delete image files on Wikipedia following successful transfer to Commons. I would also be interested in getting involved in history merges, having had to request a few of these in the past. I have been thinking about potentially running for admin for a little while, and would be interested to hear what others think about my chances, and to hear any suggestions about things I should do to improve my chances. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:44, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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FiendYT

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I am currently not even close to anywhere near the level for adminship. I'm working to that point though, and would like to see if I would be qualified for adminship in next few years. I currently work in the areas of content creation and anti-vandalism. I do my best to help clear out AFC and other backlogs. If I continue my work and keep improving on it for the next 2-4 years, do you think I'll be ready for the mop. FiendYT 00:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Fadesga

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Hi. I want to assess my chances for administership. I am active in the Spanish, German, English and other Wikipedias. My global edition numbers are more than 220,000.

I have to disagree with Chris here. The notability of Lothar von Faber is well-established in the article. The references are in German of course but that does not matter for establishing notability. The entry in the Neue Deutsche Biographie is already enough I think but if you add to that the book about him, it's clear that WP:GNG is met. Of course, it would be nice to translate the whole de.wiki article but for now, the stub is fine. Pichpich (talk) 17:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

RickinBaltimore

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I'm dipping my toe in the water yet again to see what the community thinks of my chances if I were to be nominated for adminship. While I know the fact I don't have any GA or FA is a mark against me, I feel that my way of communicating with other editors, ability to listen and work rationally with editors, and knowledge of Wikipedia would be an asset to the project as a whole. My focus, should I be given the tools, would be more in the areas of vandal cleanup and page maintainance more than anything else, however I am willing to assist where it is needed. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:51, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey Rick, I really enjoyed that beer you gave me the other day :) One queStion for you: of your 30,000 edits almost 13,000 are deleted edits. Why is that?  — Amakuru (talk) 18:35, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome for the beer, hope you enjoyed it! Mostly because I do a lot of work in recent changes, and tagging pages for deletion. So a lot of these would be CSDs that were deleted. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:39, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
(ec) You're an admin now, you can check his deleted contribs ;-) Ajraddatz (talk) 18:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
oh yes, so I can :) I'm still finding my way around the new buttons!  — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
I've looked back at the last 1000, they're almost all speedy deletion tags.--Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:15, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Rick, followup question – if you do a lot of CSD work, why don't you have a CSD log (and a PROD log)?... My advice: contact your friendly neighborhood Admin, and see if they can help you "reconstruct a CSD log" from your deleted edits (I've done this myself on my end, though my CSD log is probably minuscule compared to what yours is...) – if your Admin application is relying a lot on your CSD work, having some kind of CSD log will help you at RfA... --IJBall (contribstalk) 22:10, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
I think I will do that in the next few days, great suggestion! RickinBaltimore (talk) 22:29, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
You can also do an edit summary search to show standardized Twinkle edit summaries. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for that too, I asked about the CSD log as well to see what I could get going. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

The Traditionalist

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I would like to see the opinion of other Wikipedians on my chances to become an administrator. I have an account since October 2011 and my contributions are, admittedly, less than they should be. Thank you in advance.--The Traditionalist (talk) 11:18, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

The question, I suppose, is to what extent you believe that the English revolution will begin in Ireland. Muffled Pocketed 11:26, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: I suppose that I will not live to see it.--The Traditionalist (talk) 11:28, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: As you stated, I do not whole-heartedly want to become an administrator. This request is more like a straw poll to test what impressions I generate.--The Traditionalist (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
If you are just fishing trolling to test what impressions you generate, then I will add: after reading all your userboxes, I need a sedative. Fylbecatulous talk 12:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Fylbecatulous: No, sir, I am not at all trolling. I simply want to test this publicly.--The Traditionalist (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Fair enough. Please forgive my pejorative. I am amending my comment to something my cats would like. I do wish you the best. Fylbecatulous talk 13:27, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Our doogs like fish skins too :) Muffled Pocketed 13:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: I think that I have demonstrated my neutrality by making helpful (albeit gnomei-ish and not content-related) edits in many articles about Liberals, Labour party supporters and (to a lesser extent) Irish nationalists, and also many Americans. Also, I made a call for neutrality here and here. Furthermore, one of the wikipedians I admire the most, Brianboulton, is almost certainly centre-left to left-wing but I admire his diligence and hard work. Finally, one of my userboxes states that “this user admires many poets who held different political views than he does, because they were magnificent poets” which, in my eyes, at least, is a good example of neutrality.
P.S. Imagine that my userpage did not contain all these and, instead, was blank or contained basic information and my preferences on art and literature. I would still hold the views I hold but you could not say from my contributions. May I ask for a review based solely on my contributions?--The Traditionalist (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
P.S.S. After this discussion I made edits which completely respected its consensus, even though it was different from my view on the matter.
The question on the table, though, isn't "am I a good editor" (no idea) or "should I be blocked" (not on evidence), but "would I pass an RfA"? You can do plenty of good work on the encyclopedia without going anywhere near the tools, as I think Brian has demonstrated in spades. Indeed, just like you shouldn't be able to work out anyone's POV for their edits, you shouldn't be able to tell if an editor is an admin or not, as they'll be able to resolve disputes on their own without reaching for the banhammer. However, this place lets anyone edit here, and I think you need to realise that not everyone who comes here is capable of calm and rational discourse with a respect for alternative views, and as an admin you'll quickly find yourself a magnet for having personal attacks thrown at you for simply doing your job. You can delete all the userboxes from your user page, but all you then need is one person to supply the diff of you doing so at an RfA, and a bunch of people will be asking you what you have to hide, which is potentially even worse. As Chris said above, you haven't really done much that shows you're particularly interested in the admin side of things, and the main evidence I can see is from clearing up Neelix's work. So, is getting the tools really something you want? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: I certainly am not as interested in it as most other people here. It occurred to me this morning.--The Traditionalist (talk) 15:45, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
You did not answer my question, though. What would you have to say about my contributions if I had a blank userpage and the userboxes were never there.--The Traditionalist (talk) 16:04, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
The trouble with hypothetical questions is that you only get hypothetical answers ;-) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: Precisely! This is what I want.--The Traditionalist (talk) 16:09, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Comment Ritchie333, I was quite impressed with the tactfulness I got in response to my slightly loaded question... Muffled Pocketed 14:47, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I am not sure if it interests anyone, but I just remembered of an instance of me being completely deficient: this every-day discussion's ending.--The Traditionalist (talk) 16:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, you bumped into Cassianto did you? He's our P.R. man Muffled Pocketed 16:31, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll be positive here: whilst I don't think WP is any place to express one's political affiliations (feel free to disagree; many people do!) I do believe that in a year or so you could stand a chance. Maybe not now. --PatientZero talk 16:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Can some please chuck Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi a human baby sandwich, I think it must be feeding time. CassiantoTalk 19:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm always impressed by your positive aura, I expect that must be it. Muffled Pocketed 19:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Well I suppose it takes one to know one. The difference is, I'm never particularly impressed by anything you do. CassiantoTalk 19:55, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Yeah. I dodged a bullet there. Muffled Pocketed 20:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
...seeing as I'm here, no, I don't think Traditionalist should be an administrator. In fact, I note above that Traditionalist themselves doesn't particularly want to be an administrator; which begs the question: What on earth is this thread about? CassiantoTalk 19:36, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Clearly it is about whether the Traditionalist thinks it is worth getting feedback on whether the traditionalist should think about thinking about being an administrator at some point in the future. I will get my coat. Irondome (talk) 19:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Ironically, Irondome, that makes more sense than this shameful vanity fest. CassiantoTalk 19:56, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz: Thank you very much for your kind words!--The Traditionalist (talk) 22:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

@The Traditionalist: 4/10. I don't have a problem with someone with different views, but you should probably stay away from articles like that if you were to run for RfA. Other users, however, will probably not be as accepting, so I don't think that you would succeed. I would probably vote a "weak support" in this case. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 12:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Anarchyte

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Anarchyte (talk · contribs · logs · block log · page moves · count · edit summaries · non-automated edits · articles created · BLP edits · AfD votes · XfD votes · admin score (beta) · CSD log · previous RfAs)

I don't know if I want to partake in an RfA just yet, but I'd like to somewhat gauge an idea of where I am at the moment. I've been on Wikipedia for 1 year and a few months, got over 13.5k edits and Rollback, Autopatrolled, Pending Changes and Page Mover rights (along with Extendedautoconfirmed, of course). The few things holding me back are my AfD votes, which are just over 80% accurate, which isn't that bad, but I think I could do better. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:15, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words Omni Flames. The reason the majority of my mainspace edits aren't "writing" per se, is because I like to work in the inner workings of Wikipedia, such as reverting vandalism (hence the automated edits). I do enjoy writing (my favourite article that I rewrote would have to be Rust (video game)), but I'd much rather patrol RM, AfD, the Pending Changes log and the recent changes log. Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
That's a fair reason in my opinion Anarchyte. As I mentioned, it's certainly not something I would oppose for, all I want to see in order to support you is some decent work on at least one article, and you've clearly met that. In my opinion, content work isn't really important to adminship, as the two are relatively unrelated. I just wanted to say that it could be a potential reason for opposes. Omni Flames let's talk about it 11:16, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
I've already made a list of all my created articles that are still standing. It's located at User:Anarchyte/List of articles created. Anarchyte (work | talk) 22:18, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, sorry I did not see it. I would perhaps make a link to this list a little more prominent on your userpage. I remember that I did look for it before commenting here originally but missed it then. You do have other lists, such as "Most recent creations", "GA reviews", that are much more prominently displayed. Ultimately, the list of articles that you created is more important, at least in my opinion, so I would make it easier to find. Nsk92 (talk) 22:39, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
@Nsk92: I've changed it so the most recent 5 creations are shown and only 3 GA reviews are shown. Is this what you meant? Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes, thanks, that looks good now, especially since the "Article creations" section now has a link to your full list of articles. Nsk92 (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Also, I've reassessed all my created articles. I can't really expand the Oberkirch article because there are no available references for it in English, which is a big problem. That article was also made as a result of a split. Anarchyte (work | talk) 08:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Hmm. The corresponding article on German Wikipedia for Schauenburg Castle (Oberkirch) is much longer and has a bunch of sources in German. You could at least add some of them as non-in-line-citation sources. You could also use GoogleTranslate to see if the article can be expanded at least a little using the info from the German Wikipedia article. At the moment it does not look good that the article cites a single source and there is a refimprove maintenance tag on the article. I'd also still recommend that before you go to RfA you look through all the articles you created and see if there are obvious maintenance issues that need and can be addressed quickly; and if yes, I'd address them first, before going to RfA. Nsk92 (talk) 01:51, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@Nsk92: I expanded Schauenburg Castle (Oberkirch) and added a few more references. I also went through all my other pages and tried to remove fix the tags; it went fairly successfully except for Running with Rifles which will probably need a full rewrite, tbh. And Dirty Bomb (video game), which I don't know what to do with because the sections that have problems may fall under WP:GAMECRUFT, should I just straightup remove those sections? Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:19, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Great, thanks for taking care of Schauenburg Castle (Oberkirch). I am not sure about Dirty Bomb (video game), as the topic is too far from me. Perhaps it'd be OK to source that section to some primary source, but if not, I'd leave it as is. There are several references in that article which are bare URLs now; I'd at least reformat them. Nsk92 (talk) 13:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the criticism Xender Lourdes. For the Tennessee Volunteers edit, I reverted that for AGF because the IP had never edited anywhere else, so I was assuming that they wanted to contribute their opinion, even though that's against policy of WP:NPOV and possibly WP:COI, depending if they were connected with the TV. I left them no talk page message for that reason. I see Saint Kitts as completely GF; it seemed like a test edit, I must've forgotten to enter a talk page message there (sorry). As for reviewing the pending changes, I don't use the undo button because the only options are "Accept" and "Revert". There's no need for rollback to have PC so I use the revert button as an undo button. If that's wrong, I can change that. Also, I've since readded the information to Julia Roberts, I reverted it in the first place because there was no reference given and per WP:BLP, the majority (if not all) of things should be referenced. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:07, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. You are absolutely trustworthy so there's no question of not trusting you with the admin tools. The only small issue is your technical grasp of the revert functionality, which for an admin has to be perfect. Imo both the edits you identified as good faith edits are vandal edits. In my opinion again, the revert button should not be used as an alternative to the undo button, especially when the worry is that newbies will be pushed away, specially when the issue is about a celebrity and her very well known movie that can be searched in a handful of seconds on google search. I will vote support for you if you stand in the Rfa, more so given your answer above. The 4/10 is only to give you an insight into the behavioural hit that a newbie might take. Thank you for taking time to respond. Xender Lourdes (talk) 12:12, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
Xender Lourdes, there's nothing wrong with using the revert button in place of the undo button, as long as you leave an appropriate edit summary. In this case, pending changes revert is exactly the same as the undo button, except for the fact that it mentions that the edits are pending. I really don't know what you're going on about here. Omni Flames let's talk about it 21:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
The undo button (which allows you to additionally edit the page while undoing and provide a citation to a good faith edit) is similar to the manual revert (clicking on the edit button and doing the same), but not to the simplistic automatic revert button provided in the pc, which doesn't allow you to edit the version, although allowing you to give a reasoning. If one is using the PC automatic revert button to revert good faith changes especially of a newbie ip, it is preferable to write clearly that these are good faith changes that are being reverted than just mentioning that the previous version was better. Otherwise, use the undo button (or the manual revert, if you may), edit the good faith edits to your liking, provide a citation if such exists, and give a decent edit summary (again identifying the good faith edits as such). If it is a good faith edit, as per our pending changes reviewer guideline, "Accepting, immediately or after some modifications, is the default position, and even if an edit may appear suboptimal, this is in itself not a reason to revert, as for all edits, since they may yet be improved... It is not necessary for you to ensure compliance with the content policies on neutral point of view, verifiability and original research before accepting..." But of course, I am bantering now. Hope the difference in the undo and automatic revert button is clear. Xender Lourdes (talk) 01:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

@Omni Flames, Nsk92, Patient Zero, ThePlatypusofDoom, Vanamonde93, and Xender Lourdes: Should I go for it starting this weekend, or should I wait a bit longer? I understand my article creation is lacking but I don't think that's a big deal as I like to work in behind-the-scenes-type areas. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Do it now. No need to wait. Xender Lourdes (talk) 09:47, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
I would say be bold and go for it now. Best of luck! --PatientZero talk 10:21, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: Go for it. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 10:42, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: I would, however, suggest caution in taking advice from those not qualified to give it: they could skew your perspective (intentionally, or unintentionally). That's the problem with a small page such as this- not enough eyes to make a meanngful judgment! Good luck with whatever course of action you choose to take though. Muffled Pocketed
@Anarchyte: I understand that I'm late to the party here, but I second what others have said. I reckon you should do for it now. Yes, your content creation is a little lacking but no one should expect you tp be perfect in every area. As with ThePlatypusofDoom, I'm willing to nom or co-nom you if you need one, but I may not be the greatest person to do so. Best of luck with whichever path you choose to take, you'll certainly have my support. Omni Flames let's talk about it 06:16, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
You've been here long enough and done enough editing to run an RFA. You seem to have the right mix of contributing content and doing enough maintenance work to need the tools. One problem, looking through your deleted edits one of the first I saw was an A1 in the same moment that an article was created. A1 and A3 tags are not supposed to be added to articles in the first few minutes. I didn't check enough edits to see if this was an isolated incident or part of a pattern, but I'd suggest rereading the deletion rules and maybe some of the essays. If it is part of a pattern but you now learn from this then I don't see that an RFA in a few weeks would be problematic, providing you use Question 3 to cover the matter. Two other issues came up on your talkpage, firstly don't worry about your signature as long as you stick to colours that have sufficient contrast with white - ie don't go too pale. Secondly we expect admins to be able to communicate and sometimes that works best by email for example requests for revision deletion. This isn't a dealbreaker, but if you don't want to disclose your usual email address, why not get a free one that you just use for Wiki stuff? ϢereSpielChequers 12:44, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Anarchyte, WereSpielChequers makes a valid point. I am sure you'll consider what he says and take more care in your CSDs. I also noticed a CSD nom where you have A7'd an educational institution. I am confident that given your generally very careful use of tools like Twinkle, you will make minimal mistakes as you go ahead (everyone makes mistakes, we just try and minimise them). Xender Lourdes (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@WereSpielChequers: For the A1 nominations, I try to wait 5-10 minutes before tagging, but sometimes I forget to check the history before tagging. Even then, I check my CSD Log for those entries to see if the creator has added content and then I remove the tag. I'll try to be more careful when tagging with A1-A3. As for that A7 Xender Lourdes mentioned, I also tagged in for A11 in case the A7 failed. It seemed pretty promotional for an education insitution so I threw both of them on. I see now see my mistake and that won't happen again . I might grab up a hotmail email just for Wiki purposes if the RfA passes. Anarchyte (work | talk) 22:22, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
@WereSpielChequers: So, would you be able to nominate me later today? I have my answers for the questions down packed. Anarchyte (work | talk) 02:30, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
I'm afraid there is a queue, I've been talking to another potential nominee for a while. Plus I'd like to see a few weeks of CSD nominations after you slowdown on the A1s, and as I said the one I spotted was one of the first I checked, I'd check a lot more before nominating someone. But if you haven't run by early July feel free to email me a draft of your intended answers to the three questions. That isn't me advising you not to run for another month, someone else might do the checks that I don't currently have time to do and nominate you if they think that A1 was an isolated mistake. In the meantime the advice to get a DYK is good, your content contributions meet my standards, but some are more picky on this. ϢereSpielChequers 11:25, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@WereSpielChequers: All good. Thanks for the advice. I've had a look at my CSD for the whole of this year and I've only nominated ~10 pages for A1 so far. As previously mentioned, I try to be restritive when tagging with that criteria, but sometimes (like the one you mentioned) some slip threw the cracks. Mr. Stradivarius said they'd also take a look at my edits before I started the RfA so I'd need to wait for him anyway. Thanks! Anarchyte (work | talk) 11:34, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
@Anarchyte: I would be willing to nominate you, but you may want someone who is more experienced to nominate you. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 13:49, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes, my thinking exactly. Nsk92 (talk) 17:49, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: I've taken 3 articles to DYK. Anarchyte (work | talk) 22:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
I think Ritchie333 meant getting articles that your created through DYK. You actually do have one of those, List of most disliked YouTube videos, but from the structure of your userpage the fact that you were the original creator of the article is not apparent. The article listed next to it, Survival Island 3, was nominated by you for DYK, but created by another editor (you do have a few edits there). For the third article, We Don't Have to Dance, you were its DYK reviewer. The main point is that in terms of enhancing your overall content creating experience, the best thing would be to take (some more of) your own articles through some form of peer review process, such as DYK or GA. Nsk92 (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
Exactly this. I have User:Ritchie333/GA, User:Ritchie333/DYK (this is a bit out of date) and User:Ritchie333/saves (the latter contains articles I have prevented from being deleted by improving them). I have these pages partly so I can remember what I worked on, partly as an ego massage, and partly because it was easy for RfA voters to see what I'd done. Something to definitely consider. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:33, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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CCamp2013

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CCamp2013 (talk · contribs · logs · block log · page moves · count · edit summaries · non-automated edits · articles created · BLP edits · AfD votes · XfD votes · admin score (beta) · CSD log · no prior RfA)

I have been a part of the wikipedia community for a while now and I spend more and more time on here, learning new tools. I'm interested what people would think about my chances if I were to be nominated. I think I have a lot of experience with vandalism and disputes with other editors. I have had few conflicts of my own with other people and the ones I have had ended in a talk page discussion and I respected the outcome. I'm always trying to strive for a better quality wikipedia and putting ideas out in the wikisphere to make it better. I think everything I have learned so far will make me extremely helpful to Wikipedia. I think my areas of focus are pretty clear, however, as I explore the world of wikipedia, I go where I am needed. Chase (talk) 05:09, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: To be clear, I was the one filling the complaint. Chase (talk) 17:00, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
0/10. As of right now you do not have the relevant experience; furthermore, the recent edit-warring is of concern. I do hope you have acknowledged that your behaviour was inappropriate, and I do hope you post here again in the foreseeable future. If you adhere to our policies and guidelines for the next six months, I may be inclined to support. --PatientZero talk 17:40, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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Joseph2302

I think it's fairly obvious, based on the ratings, that this user is not going to succeed in an RFA anytime soon. (non-admin closure) Omni Flames (talk) 00:58, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Interested how likely people think it'd be that I could be an admin at some point in the future. I have 3 FLs, 1 GA and numerous DYKs. been involved in COI, new pages/AFC, and AfD. Block log isn't clean, but all of that stupidness is behind me. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

To be fair, that means over a year with no mishaps- and that's well over what than we ask for a WP:STANDARDOFFER. Although admittedly, that isn't usually a springboard to adminship either. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 17:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
In fairness, I'm expecting the block log to significantly reduce people's votes- I'm more interested in what they think about everything else. Unfortunately, I can't change the past, but I can make the present/future positive. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:09, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, your knowledge, understanding, and application of the policies and guidelines is second to none; perhaps just a trifle inflexible sometimes? No disrespect you understand, just painting pictures at this point. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 17:13, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
This isn't ANI and I'm not complaining about Joseph2302. I'm just trying to be honest. I opposed Piotrus's last RfA because of dishonesty although he's been an exemplary contributor to Wikipedia. With Joseph2302's inexplicable errors I really can't let that go. Had they violated WP:NPA after being taunted by trolls I could understand. Had there been an edit war over some content disagreement even that I could forgive. Socking and vandalism a year ago with no real explanation why makes me wonder about the candidate. Joseph2302 is otherwise a good editor and I encourage them to continue. If not for those two blocks I'd have little problem supporting an RfA. I think my distrust is better heard in this forum than on an actual RfA in front of scores of other editors. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:56, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
"Your good editing becomes worthless"...? A tad over the top, I think. To the extent that this page is about making predictions, sorry, Joseph, but I don't think you'd pass now given that background. I do wish though that we had more admins who actually understood the behavior they're blocking people for. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Ritchie333 For 2.5 months, this user has been harassing multiple users to get their autobiography accepted. There's a point when you just need to give up and walk away, and I'd reached that point. Also, the AfD is only happening because they wouldn't accept a speedy deletion, and so harassed the deleting admin into restoring it. They're clearly not here to contribute, and aren't ever going to listen to advice. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:16, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
  • And if you'd checked properly, you would have noticed it has previously been moved to draftspace, and the user had moved it back to article space. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:17, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Got to agree with Joseph2302 here- the editor in question's behaviour declined to the extent that it went to AN/I for harassing multiple users. Muffled Pocketed 13:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Doesn't matter. "He started it" and "They've behaved worse than me!" are never excuses. See WP:BOOMERANG (or Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Thomas.W to see how these things might play out). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:16, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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BU Rob13

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I'm a regular closer at TfD, where I probably close 80-90% of the discussions each month. I've also recently become involved in CfD, where I cleared a backlog of over 200 discussions down to a couple dozen in around half a month. In both of these areas, non-admins can close as delete, since the next implementation step doesn't require admin tools (orphaning a template or emptying a category). After completing those actions, I've listed hundreds of templates and categories for speedy deletion as per WP:G6. My CSD log had over 500 entries since April, when I realized it wasn't already active, and they're almost entirely in this area. I probably have near a thousand speedy deletion nominations not listed there, both from before April and when I occasionally use AWB for tagging categories/templates from mass-nominations. It would be useful to be able to delete templates and categories directly instead of nominating them for speedy deletion, especially in situations where many categories or templates are being deleted. I've had to spam 300 categories with speedy deletion tags in the past, and that's a huge time waste for everyone involved. My biggest negative is that I've been on the site for a similar amount of time to Anarchyte, which is guaranteed to draw at least 20 opposes by itself. Any feedback is appreciated. ~ RobTalk 19:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · logs · block log · page moves · count · edit summaries · non-automated edits · articles created · BLP edits · AfD votes · XfD votes · admin score (beta) · previous RfAs) So I've been here actively for a while (before that it was just sporadic) principally writing new articles and expanding old ones that handle of South American volcanoes and some volcanoes elsewhere, as well as policing images (at WP:FFD, at uploading and WP:MCQ) and new pages at times. Recently WP:Files for discussion has been a bit backlogged as only a few administrators work there and I've considered to help out there, seeing as I do understand copyright issues - which can be a difficult area to handle - to some degree. But before contemplating that further, I wanted to know what other people think about my chances.

He has a CSD log here and the AfD stats don't log his contributions to FFD, which seem to be substantial. Perhaps the RfA might get stuck on cross-examination of copyright law, but I can't see how at the minute. When I see a candidate with a "specialist skill" not too many existing admins have, it puts a big weight towards support for me (eg: see Cyberpower678's RfA) and I am quite confident the RfA regulars can demolish any opposition without too much effort. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 06:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
I missed it, I see. Yes, that CSD is substantial, and looks good to boot. Thanks Ritchie. I'll move it to 7.5, and if you really feel the NOTYET crowd can be cowed, that would be delightful, I see no other substantive objections. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:46, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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After 2 years and 2000 (including deleted contribs) edits across with wiki, I'm giving this a try. I'd like to see what other editors think of 2 years of good contributions. I am fully aware that gaining access to advanced functions is not the purpose of my editing rather it is granted for the purpose of continuing to contribute to the encyclopedia as I would do without the access. I don't think it hurts to put my history to under the looking glass to see what areas need improvement. So I leave it to the community to give an assessment of my edit history. VegasCasinoKid (talk) 10:49, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

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Hello! I know that my account is ridiculously premature for admin-ship according to current standards, but am curious nevertheless about the role of admins. Why can sysop not be granted to users who only plan on fighting vandalism? Any abuse of the blocking tool can be easily reverted in seconds...Also, why do users need to gain 5k+ edits, especially if they don't plan on user interaction, just with blocking trolls.

Welcome! The worst of it is, that making such an enquiry generally leads seasoned editors to consider instinctively it indicative of socking. Cheers! Muffled Pocketed 19:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I can answer these. Patrolling WP:RFPP and WP:AN3 I see a surprising number of people who don't really understand what vandalism is, and an administrator wrongly accusing a good-faith editor of vandalism harms the encyclopedia enormously. The last (only?) time I reversed a block I got hauled up to WP:ANI and a few admins suggested I should be desysopped (it all got sorted out in the end though and we made up) - I am never doing that again. And finally, your definition of a "troll" may be different from mine, and in a good month I do easily over 1,000 edits, so doesn't take too long to get 5K if you're serious about this place. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:49, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: thanks for the input. After properly editing for a couple days I see what you mean about WP:NOTVANDAL, as well as the scrutiny that an admin would come under for such errors. Also probably should say that new users mess up with simple things such as how wikipedia operates.....(messed up an AFD request. heh.) Guthix no more (talk) 21:21, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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Athomeinkobe

Athomeinkobe (talk · contribs · logs · block log · page moves · count · edit summaries · non-automated edits · articles created · BLP edits · AfD votes · XfD votes · admin score (beta) · CSD log · PROD log · no prior RfA)

I saw a link to this page posted at WT:AFC and figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. As a brief introduction, I've been active on Wikipedia for about two years now. Contrary to popular belief, there is more to Japan than just anime, so I am trying to broaden the coverage of the country in my own little way and my current efforts are towards getting political articles up to scratch. I have written one good article and about 20 DYK articles (including current nominations). On the maintenance side of things I am currently active at WP:PNT. I would not call myself overly active at AFD, but I've participated in about 100 discussions and nominated a few myself. I notice others above have mentioned a CSD log. I have not kept a log myself, but hazard a guess that I have tagged about 100 articles for speedy deletion and very few of those would have been wrong. The same goes for PROD nominations of articles. Perhaps someone can confirm the contents of my deleted contributions. That is not to say I am focused on deletion though, I would rather see content kept if there is the prospect of it being improved and notable and try to communicate with other authors wherever possible. Thank you in advance for any and all feedback. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Update: Thank you for your reviews so far. I have started CSD and PROD logs; is it necessary to go back and add old entries? As for why I need the tools, I would be most active in what I already know, reviewing CSD and PROD nominations. I have performed a few non-admin closures of AFDs in the past. Being clear cut, they would not provide much insight into my ability to assess consensus, but I am confident in my ability in that regard. I find myself wanting to move a page occasionally but cannot due to edit history already existing at the target destination, so being able to handle that myself without having to ask someone else to take time out to move a page would be useful. Finally, I use the pending changes reviewer tool a bit, and via that find other pages that are subject to vandalism but not under protection. I've requested protection for articles in the past, so am familiar with the process and would be happy to work in that area if it is backlogged. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 08:13, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Oshwah

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I'm returning again to RFACP a few months shy of the RFA I made one year ago. I made an RFACP a few months after I ran in order to get an assessment and honest opinion from anyone willing to give them, and the advice I was given was to wait about a year (and obviously take the good advice I received from my RFA). I can honestly say that I'm happy that I was asked to create some content and wait a year instead of just being given the mop (no joke). I did learn a lot, and I wouldn't have contributed some article work if I had passed. After establishing a longer track record of contributions in the areas I truly enjoy, as well as continuing what I've been doing that was appreciated, I'm back again to ask the community... am I ready? Do my contributions and interactions with others show that I can handle the mop? If there's something I'm still lacking or need to drastically improve, please tell me and I'll absolutely take it to heart and plan accordingly. If I decide to RFA again (which may or may not be somewhat soon), I want to do it right this time and do it to serve the community. As always, I thank everyone and appreciate any and all feedback you leave, whether it be good or bad. All I ask is that it's honest :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

@Oshwah: You've got two experienced editors supporting you here! That's good news. Muffled Pocketed 08:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Just going to drop you a line about Talk:Sakurai's Object/GA1 on your talk - Oshwah didn't review that, I did, so I don't know what this takes any bearing on his chances at RfA? -- samtar talk or stalk 11:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
That's why I said "the other side of the fence" .. it was one he nominated, rather than reviewed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you mean now, thank you for clarifying :) -- samtar talk or stalk 11:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
To be frank, I see a similar trajectory to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Thine Antique Pen. Okay, that was a "near miss", but that's unfortunately what I predict RfA #2 will be, although it might go to a 'crat chat. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:24, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333: You gave Anarchyte a higher rating than Oshwah? (I did too, but I agree that I messed up, it should have been 7/10 instead of 9/10.) Also, your criteria for adminship are too high, candidates don't need to be able to write a featured article, just have a knowledge of how to write an article, which Oshwah obviously does. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 12:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
I agree the the review for GA for the road article was sloppy, but the other topics that you bring up are perfectly fine. We don't need admins to be content contributors, because if you write articles, why do you need to be an admin? ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 12:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

@ThePlatypusofDoom: This discussion between myself and Ritchie might answer a couple of questions for you -- samtar talk or stalk 12:51, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

I would love to support Oshwah (though to be brutally honest if he ran tomorrow I would probably go "neutral") and see him get the mop and start clearing the backlogs, sure. However, I interpret the poll as the likelihood of the candidate passing RfA, which means I need to put personal opinion aside and think about how everyone might vote. I would really rather do this now than have the RfA run and crash at about 60-65%. I think I got it wrong with Anarchyte and did kind of apologise for voting oppose after the RfA finished. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:26, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
I respect Ritchie333's input and honest opinion 100% - it's about my true chances of passing RFA, not just individual desires. The review for GA for the road article was my very first one; I probably made mistakes when doing it (just as any person in a new area may do). I'll take another look at the review and take the feedback to heart. If it is, indeed, not up to par and I made a mistake in the prose area, then I'll honor it and use it as a learning opportunity to improve future reviews. I enjoy performing GA reviews, but I'm on the fence; what should I do to remedy this? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:48, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll plug User:Ritchie333/Why admins should create content again, but here's a problem; let's say you are looking at WP:AN3, and you count up the diffs between editors without understanding the context, you block everyone with a nice twinkle template .... ten minutes later you're yanked up to ANI with people demanding you explain yourself. The last RfA I opposed that passed anyway was Widr (actually I switched to neutral at the last minute because I thought "heck, they can't all be wrong") ... just a few days ago I see he's getting Best known for IP's back up for bad accusations of vandalism and attempting to take a straight content dispute to AIV ... resulting in yet another ANI thread and rolled eyes from those of us who've seen it all before. I'm genuinely not trying to have a go at Widr here, just saying that I don't oppose RfAs for no reason because I'm a nasty old grump. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Playing devil's advocate here a bit (and I do see what you're getting at to an extent Ritchie333 - but surely Widr has been a net positive as an admin, in particular with their work on the AIV queue? I see Oshwah as similar - someone who'll be primarily sticking to anti-vandalism work, which is what he does best currently? Even if he makes the odd mistake which ends up at AN/I (and from what I've seen, Oshwah's judgement is fantastic so this shouldn't happen too often, if at all) surely it's a net benefit that someone with such a consistently strong track record in anti-vandalism isn't taking up other administrators' time requesting things he could do himself if a RFA passes? Mike1901 (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
@IJBall: Agreed, it is abuse of WP:NOTQUITEYET. This calls for a new essay, called WP:"Not Quite Yet" Abuse. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 12:25, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chris troutman: So? Admins like Widr and Boing! said Zebedee only work behind the scenes as admins, but they both are very good admins, Widr is a ridiculously effective anti-vandalism patroller. I'm thinking that Oshwah will behave similar to the admins mentioned previously. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 22:03, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Of course. Muffled Pocketed 22:24, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
This isn't a poll as to someone's suitability as an admin. It's a poll about their chances of passing an RfA. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
@ThePlatypusofDoom: You should have read my comments more carefully as I said "You meet my criteria and I might support you as a vandalfighter". I'm trying to illustrate how I think the RfA will shake out for Oswah's benefit and I find your "So?" comment impertinent. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:44, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
@Oshwah: You may want to wait, see this for more. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 18:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
@ThePlatypusofDoom: I don't know about that, the proposal you linked to is still really in a very early stage, and the exact features of the process are still being discussed. An RFC hasn't even been held yet, and when it is, who knows what the outcome will be. Even if the proposal is accepted, it will likely still be a long time before that happens, I would say that any kind-of consensus regarding the idea is at least six months away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omni Flames (talkcontribs) 06:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
SMcCandlish - I really appreciate the point you made about a "red flag" I might be to others regarding being "desperate" for the tools and appearing to "tick all the right boxes" - just for running (or even appearing to want to run) after a "milestone" of time has been met. I honestly didn't think of it like that nor did that really cross my mind; I could see where talking about "running one year later" would (inadvertently, of course :-D) translate negatively towards the community. Am I desperate for the tools or only contributing just to be an admin? Of course not :-). I'm contributing and doing just fine without them. But I can see where these thoughts and statements could come off completely the wrong way. Thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
@Oshwah: Right. I'm not implying any motive on your part, rather warning that people leap to negative assumptions at RfA. I would study recent RfAs (especially narrow cases in the last year), and see what people look out for, work on that stuff (e.g. super-solid understanding of WP:CSD and WP:CHECKUSER, whatever), go about your business, and wait for an unsolicited nomination from a non-controversial admin (keeping an admin-hopefuls userbox or being in the category those uses may facilitate that happening), see if they can find a similar co-nominator, and make sure one or both of them are willing to ask for diffs and stuff for any really weird opposes, because if you do it yourself it'll look like combativeness.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  15:18, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Mdann52

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Been a while since I last run, just want a gauge on what people think now. Mdann52 (talk) 09:07, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: CSD F8 was what the file was deleted under - as it was uploaded to Commons, it shows as a bluelink on my log. Just a note for future reference. Thanks for the feedback noneless. Mdann52 (talk) 17:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
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Rahmatgee

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