May 19

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 19, 2024.

Heidi Strobel

• Heidi Strobel → Cole Hamels  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Inappropriate redirect. Nothing at the target page gives any information about this subject aside from the fact that they're married. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep What makes that inappropriate? This fits the purpose of a redirect. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as this is an ((R from merge)). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:30, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I think that she is more notable for being a survivor contestant than as Hamels wife.. suggest retargeting to Survivor: The Amazon. The Hamels page doesn't even mention her time on the show. Spanneraol (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  A line on that can be added to the Hamels' bio. Perhaps also how they met, if that can be sourced. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Cole Hamels § Family describes her personal life, whereas Survivor: The Amazon describes her appearance in one TV series. That said, I would support adding a ((redirect)) tag at the top of the "Family" section with a link to Survivor: The Amazon. Additionally, ((R from person)) should be changed to ((R from spouse)). voorts (talk/contributions) 00:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neal Stephenson books

• Neal Stephenson/Snow Crash → Snow Crash  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Neal Stephenson/Cryptonomicon → Cryptonomicon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Neal Stephenson/In the Beginning → In the Beginning... Was the Command Line  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Neal Stephenson/The Big U → The Big U  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Neal Stephenson/Zodiac → Zodiac (novel)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete. These were created over 20 years ago, very early in Wikipedia's history, possibly when article titling was done differently. There is no substantial history on any of them. Some of them were originally the pages for the book before a move, and some were created as redirects. Apart from that creation/move, there are only some bot/maintenance edits. None of the redirects have any incoming links except for the Cryptonomicon one, which has userspace links on a list of redirects that some user is maintaining. --superioridad ^(discusión) 18:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:RFD#K4, which advises that links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them.. - Eureka Lott 20:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per Eureka. While there is no history on the links themselves, they themselves are history. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:47, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Ridge Middle School

• Cedar Ridge Middle School → Decatur City Schools  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete for no mention at the target, and therefore confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a former article that was WP:BLARed in 2014 per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. The mention in the target article was removed in 2019 and it's no longer listed on the school district's website, because it was renamed. A mention could be added back to the target article, and the school is mentioned at Austin High School (Alabama). A different school of the same name is mentioned Oregon Trail School District, but I don't know if that's enough to justify disambiguation. - Eureka Lott 19:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The school is listed at the target article in the listing of middle schools. That's enough for the redirect. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 01:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Added the previous name mention at the target. Jay 💬 09:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate: to Decatur City Schools and Oregon Trail School District as neither appears to be the PTOPIC. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperstar

• Hyperstar → Metallicity#Stars  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Hyperstars → Stellar population#Population III stars  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. For the former, note that Iran Hyper Star also appears to be written without a space on the logo. 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom for now. Seems to be a camera accessory and also a name for a series of hypermarkets according to GSearch. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Only mention in published research as a type of star is this, which is not even about metallicity but about a pathway for black hole formation. And the article it cites doesn't actually use this term. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget Hyperstar to Carrefour, Delete the plural. Jay 💬 15:20, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedia:GREENGABLES

• Wikipedia:GREENGABLES → Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Same reason as Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_1#Wikipedia:LITTLEORPHAN; this was created at the same time as that redirect. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:94B3:D441:1507:1AE8 (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: the basis for that nomination seems to have been that the redirect target was confusing(?). What alternate target do you think exists for 'green gables'? jp×g🗯️ 18:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I don't see how Green Gables relates to AN. Waylon (was) (here) 17:10, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Waylon111: The inside joke is based on the novel Anne of Green Gables. Lenticel ^(talk) 00:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a confusing inside joke at best. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as harmless and no better target, also WP:FUNPOLICE. This isn't a mainspace redirect, there's no need to be so serious. Fieari (talk) 05:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Fieari. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 02:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Leo Trotskij

• Leo Trotskij → Leon Trotsky  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Trotskij" appears to be the spelling of Trotsky's name in various North Germanic languages and this spelling isn't used in the article. The mention in the article was removed as part of another RfD for Lev Trotskij that was deleted. Delete this as well. Jay 💬 19:34, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Some romanizations of Russian do use ⟨ij⟩ for the letter-combination ⟨ий⟩. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per @LaundryPizza03. 48JCL (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom and per precedent at the linked RfD. No use in keeping unless a mention is re-added to the target. CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• Delete: per my rationale at the previous RfD. There's no evidence that this Romanization is used for Trotsky. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turing recognizable

• Turing recognizable → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Turing-recognizable → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Turing-recognizable language → Recursively enumerable language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I think this should redirect to the more general notion of Computably enumerable set. (When this discussion is closed, a Turing-recognizable redirect should be created with the same target.) 1234qwer1234qwer4 20:02, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to treat the redirect Turing-recognizable language the same way. –jacobolus (t) 20:05, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or add it to this discussion, like I just did. Steel1943 (talk) 20:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because that one is about languages specifically, which is in line with the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or you could just create Turing-recognizable and add it to this nomination ... like I just did... Steel1943 (talk) 20:52, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or not (because I don't like creating a redirect and immediately nominating it for discussion). 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...Or just do it and don't waste the community's time with hypotheticals. Steel1943 (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You were the one who started approaching the statement of my nomination with hypotheticals. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I took action rather than waiting for another editor to do it. Steel1943 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget the first two to Computably enumerable set as they are not about languages specifically, but keep Turing-recognizable language as it is. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Latin peoples

• Latin peoples → Latins  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

History indicates that this used to be a problematic article that was then redirected to Italic peoples, then to Romance-speaking world which was relatively recently deleted (2023), and now re-created as a redirect to Latins by a new user. This should be discussed before we let it stay. Joy (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd argue that Latin people or Latin peoples can be rather vague. It's been seen used colloquially just to mean "Latin Americans" and also been used in European contexts whether for present day Romance-speaking groups or for historical populations like the Italic Latins of antiquity. Since the article Latins covers broadly all "people-related" uses of this term since antiquity it seems like a good fit for a redirect. Evaporation123 (talk) 01:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And that would be fine if this was stable, but in the latest rewrite, we already had a revert [1] by @Liz and a major intervention[2] by @Diannaa. A clearer consensus would be preferable. --Joy (talk) 06:48, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Evaporation123, broad target fitting for a broad redirect. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Evil Mario

• Evil Mario → Wario  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

could also be referring to bowser jr., doopliss, or mario himself in earlier continuities. also arguably not fitting in the first place after... his debut, but that's besides the point cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I believe "Evil Mario" is pretty synonymous with Wario in the same way Waluigi is with Luigi. Note that Evil Luigi also exists as a redirect. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  granted, there is that one literal evil luigi in super paper mario... cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:05, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom as it could easily mean several other different entities and characters, not just Wario. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Overly vague, and could conceivably refer to numerous different characters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Very ambiguous. Okmrman (talk) 04:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also bundle Evil Luigi along with this discussion Okmrman (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Hey man im josh. This goes where I'd expect it to. --BDD (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or delete?
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Keep, while not explicitly called "evil Mario", Wario is designed as his evil counterpart, and is the most plausible target for "evil Mario" compared to various Mario games antagonists. Same for evil Luigi (Waluigi). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 14:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as vague, multiple "evil Mario" target possibilities exist and Wario does not equal Mario. If anything I'd expect this to go to a Mario (red hat) related article or respective list of characters, as no mention of "Evil Mario" exists at the current target for Wario. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 23:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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on second thought, i implied a suggestion for a dab, but it would be better to delete, since none of the possible targets are explicitly "evil marios" in the same way that mr. l (the l stands for "winner") is an evil luigi

amd wario has gone farther and farther from being a caricature of mario, and went from outright evil to "mostly good, but only because that's more profitable"

unless waluigi is on screen, in which case he's just an asshole cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 18:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: The article discusses Wario as an evil version of Mario, he's colloquially referred to that way, and this is the most plausible redirect. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:57, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The delete !votes claim that the term "Evil Mario" is vague because there are other possible targets, but they have not provided examples of those possible targets. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Baak film redirects

• Baak (Telugu film) → Aranmanai 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Baakghost → Aranmanai 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Both of these redirects have no point. Both these redirects (Baakghost and Baak (Telugu film)) along with Baak (Telugu Film) were initially created by SenthilGugan as Articles for the Telugu dubbed version of Aranmanai 4. After seeing no need for another article, when there's already a primary article and an Afd the pages were turned to redirects. But, there is no need these many redirects, as not even the Google recognizes these names. I only included two redirects because, the other one has already been Rfded. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Vestrian24Bio, what's the reason for nominating this redirect for deletion? I could be missing a potential problem with it; but, from what I can see, this title is mentioned at the target under Aranmanai 4#Release. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:21, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I am typing it; please wait for me to post it. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:22, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Ah, sorry - I was confused as to why the redirect was nominated without a rationale, but that makes sense. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That's fine 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: It's Baak. See this. Kailash29792 (talk) 11:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Noting that the above !vote was made underneath the entry for Baakghost, before the two nominations had been combined - see [3]. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 12:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep but make the target more precise to a section in the article: Aranmanai_4#Theatrical The title in the target section of this Telugu version of the film IS Baak. The second R was Redirected after an Afd and the first BLARed as ATD, so that the pages history and credits could be kept, which is always good. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:09, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Agree with the first one, but the second R: A Google search of that name would give the results for Baak (Assamese folklore), so how much of an accurate redirect that would be? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 14:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Fair enough. Then, in order to preserve history and credits for both, rename the second (but then the double redirect needs to be fixed) OR change target so that it redirects to the Assamese folklore page (which will preserve the history, only upon a different topic). A DISAMB page can also be considered. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I say we retarget to Baak (Assamese folklore) and move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect. You agree Mushy Yank? Kailash29792 (talk) 10:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sure! Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Summarizing the above discussion, Keep and Re-target Baak (Telugu film) to Aranmanai 4#Theatrical while, Move Baakghost to Baak ghost without leaving a redirect and Re-target to Baak (Assamese folklore). Is that correct Kailash29792 and Mushy Yank? 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 04:07, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yes you are right. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  As far as I’m concerned, yes, I think that’s a good solution. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:16, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Unlabeled

• Unlabeled → Draft:Unlabeled  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

per wp:SRD --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to wikt:unlabeled again. --MikutoH ^talk! 23:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: dabifying is also possible as Unlabeled coloring, Unlabeled sexuality, Unlabeled - The Demos also exist --MikutoH ^talk! 23:15, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't object. It seems like I incorrectly assumed your article was spam. My apologies. EdmHopLover1995 (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I went ahead and restored the soft redirect, though I think this discussion should remain open since dabifying is also being considered as an option. CycloneYoris ^talk! 00:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Template:Wiktionary redirect. Wikipedia is not a dictionary and we don't need Wiktionary redirects for common words. A disambiguation page wouldn't be appropriate, because all of the potential entries are WP:PTMs. - Eureka Lott 13:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Eureka Lott: As WP:PTM describes, some partial title matches do belong on disambiguation pages. I think title-subtitle is one of the more obvious cases for that. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:02, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I suppose that could apply to Unlabeled - The Demos. Are there other good candidates for a potential disambiguation page? - Eureka Lott 18:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Dabify per MikutoH's last comment, plausible search term with several relevant entries. A Wiktionary link could be present on the dab if necessary. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate: per the several pages listed by MikutoH with the term "unlabeled" in them. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Evil Luigi

• Evil Luigi → Waluigi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

as opposed to "evil mario" which was nominated a few days ago, which could have referred to a good handful of characters (ironically not including wario), there is a very concrete "evil luigi", that being mr. l from super paper mario, though he's only mentioned by name in luigi's article. i'd say retarget to super paper mario and mention his name there cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since it can plausibly refer to multiple subjects. On top of Mr. L and Waluigi, I'm sure there's other "evil" variants of Luigi that exist that could be conflated with them. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

to my knowledge, those are actually the only ones. shadoo (also from super paper mario) could maybe probably count since he takes the shapes of the main cast (funnily enough, he copies mr. l's design instead of luigi's), though i haven't been able to find any other clones or doppelgängers wanting to be the better mario brother cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

should probably clarify that i mean evil luigis, i will accept no gooigi slander in this house cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I believe the expected result for "Evil Luigi" is Waluigi, same as somebody searching "Evil Mario" would expect to be redirected to Wario. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:56, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose deletion with no opinion on keep vs. dabify. There is, I think we all agree, at least one plausible meaning of "Evil Luigi," so something should exist at that title. "Delete since it can plausibly refer to multiple subjects" does not match any of the rationales listed at WP:R#RCD. If there is only one meaning, then it can target that meaning. If there is more than one meaning, then it can be dabified (or we can pick a primary topic). There's no situation where you delete something that has at least one valid meaning. --NYKevin 07:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Evil Luigi is Mr. L at most. Waluigi is not Luigi, and therefore cannot be "Evil Luigi" (as he would need to be Luigi to be evil, which he is not, and is a separate character). We do have a character on Wikipedia that is Luigi, and is "evil", i.e. Mr. L, so this if anything is the only possibility that exists. However, I would not expect this description of Mr. L to be a redirect, as "Mr. L" is a suitable and workable search term. No reason to have Bad Luigi or Devious Luigi. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 19:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Utopes Okmrman (talk) 03:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Keep: per NYKevin. Evil Luigi is a colloquial way of referring to Waluigi and is a useful search term. Do not disambiguate because Waluigi is the PTOPIC and Mr. L is not a major character in the franchise. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the principle of WP:LEAST surprise. Someone typic this is not looking for anyone other than Waluigi. Mr. L is not the primary topic here. At most, a hatnote could be used, but I don't think even that's necessary. Fieari (talk) 23:26, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dougie (disambiguation)

• Dougie (disambiguation) → Dougie (given name)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The set index is not a disambiguation. I can only find Dougie as a dance, and Dougie (given name), but I can't find the 3rd. If you can't find the 3rd one, will this page be deleted or kept? 176.42.17.150 (talk) 16:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Dougie (given name) does not involve the dance, and does Dougie from Bluey count as 3rd? 176.42.17.150 (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. If there's enough content to create a disambiguation page, that's certainly fine. If not, the redirect should be kept because the target provides a disambiguation-like function. - Eureka Lott 17:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • We generally avoid pointing Foo (disambiguation) titles to non-disambiguation pages. BD2412 T 17:51, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • We do point them at pages that "serve a disambiguation-like function" though, which anthroponymy pages do. Oops, I thought I removed this comment before saving — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivanvector (talk • contribs) 19:20, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore the separate disambiguation page at Dougie (disambiguation). It's the best solution out of no particularly good solutions. BD2412 T 17:53, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Eureka Lott. If Dougie is the only title needing disambiguation that is not a person or character's name, which seems to be the case, it's silly to have nearly-identical disambiguation and anthroponymy pages that only differ by that one link. Just add a hatnote or see-also to the existing list. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 19:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Ivanvector. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Should be treated as an average redirect from incorrect disambiguation. The correct disambiguator in the title "Dougie (given name)" is "given name", and the disambiguator "disambiguation" is incorrect. No need to add an irrelevant see also link or hatnote to the anthro list. Someone who is at "Foo (given name)" doesn't need to be directed to "Foo" that is not name-related (not a "related or comparable" topic).—Alalch E. 22:43, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• We actually need this to exist because there's a broken piece of software, which is used by a lot of people who disambiguate, that thinks links to "Dougie (given name)" need to be disambiguated, so they can at least pipe link this to avoid the software bug. --Joy (talk) 07:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore disambiguation page per BD2412 and because ... since Dougie exists, claiming that a page about a given name is the de facto disambiguation page is erroneous. Steel1943 (talk) 17:10, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or restore dab?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 21:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't delete. In addition to what's already been said, redirects that end in (disambiguation) which target a page performing a disambiguation-like function (rather than a disambiguation page) are also helpful for linking to Wikidata items. To use this redirect as an example, the French and Italian Wikipedias have a disambiguation page for the term Dougie, which are both linked to Dougie (Q13364643): Wikimedia disambiguation page. However, as Dougie (given name) is an article about the name & isn't a dab page, it's linked to the Wikidata item about the name itself (Dougie (Q3037978): male given name). Redirects such as Dougie (disambiguation) are able to be connected to the Wikidata item about the disambiguation page as a sitelink to redirect (as I've just done); and therefore allow readers of the French and Italian Wikipedias to access the enwiki article (that serves a disambiguation-like function) via an interlanguage link. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 14:10, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Move Dougie to Dougie (dance): it isn't the primary topic. Put a disambiguation page at Dougie and point this redirect at it. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate per Shhhnotsoloud. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more relist, since there's some momentum away from keep despite the initial lead in numbers.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 16:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Box 850

• Box 850 → MI6  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia for that matter. 2001:999:68C:AC40:8038:7BCB:6859:B02D (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Valid ((R from alternate name)). "Box 850" is a nickname for MI6. See, e.g., [4]: "The United Kingdom's Security Service, MI5, for example, is colloquially known as Box 500 after its official wartime address of PO Box 500 and similarly MI6, the UK's external intelligence agency, is colloquially known as Box 850." voorts (talk/contributions) 01:09, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Right, but this information should be available on the target page. 2001:999:68C:AC40:95AB:EBFF:5287:8BF0 (talk) 14:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Fabien (2023)

• Cyclone Fabien (2023) → 2022–23 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season#Intense Tropical Cyclone Fabien  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Also, another redirect from unnecessary disambiguation that is not suitable for primary redirect. If CSD G7 requires a deletion, then the author request for blanking — but it is declined without an evidences occur. Fabien is only one storm for the naming storms in Southwestern Indian Ocean last 2023. This should be delete to prevent the typo parentheses like "(2021)". Icarus58 (talk) 07:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - standard practice for tropical cyclone redirects. Noah, BSBA^Talk 11:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Hurricane Noah, I'm also disagree about the standard practices on each tropical cyclone. Since lasts 4 months that I deleted the disambiguation article "Cyclone Fabien (2023)", Flux55 created the redirect again without a reasonable excuses. Icarus58 (talk) 11:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  This is a valid redirect so I don’t see the issue with it having been created after the disambiguation was deleted. Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep unless I'm missing something else. This is a standard ((R from unnecessary disambiguation)) redirect for all topics where there's any chance at all of using the disambiguator. Don't see how this increase the risk of typos as described nor why it could possibly be A7 eligible. Skynxnex (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I see nothing wrong with it. 2003 LN6 00:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kion

• Kion → KION-TV  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Kion may also refer to the one from The Lion Guard. So, retarget to KION and add the character to this disambiguation. 176.42.18.33 (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to List of The Lion King (franchise) characters as the likeliest target per WP:DIFFCAPS. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 12:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The character, Kion, should be added to KION regardless of the outcome of this discussion. BD2412 T 14:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Move KION to Kion; I have added senses to the disambiguation page. BD2412 T 16:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyclone Hamoon (2023)

• Cyclone Hamoon (2023) → Cyclone Hamoon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The previous redirect is unnecessary disambiguation and I wonder how will transposed the main article as "Cyclone Hamoon". I suggest that this redirect should be delete without putting disambiguation as "(2023)" respectively. Icarus58 (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - standard practice and not something to be decided in a single RfD. Noah, BSBA^Talk 10:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Hurricane Noah, there is also a wrong typo like the disambiguation title like the parentheses "(2023)" and I surprised more redirects have standard practices by the other users. But for me, it is better to delete rather than spread more redirects like the only one storm naming in North and Southwest Indian Ocean basins. Icarus58 (talk) 11:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  All storms that aren’t at the main title have (year) after the storm name. Redirects are cheap so I see no point in deleting this. Noah, BSBA^Talk 13:11, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Noah and the bits of my comment on Cyclone Fabien (2023) that are relevant in this case. Skynxnex (talk) 01:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Educating

• Educating → Education  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unlikely redirect; currently it's used in only one article (N._Ravichandran). Deleting this redirect would help clean up the lead of Education, by removing a distracting dab hatnote. fgnievinski (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as someone searching for "educating" is most likely looking for Education. The redirect receives page views almost every day. Mia Mahey (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above, verb forms redirecting to the relevant noun should be kept. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as seems reasonably useful. Alextejthompson (Ping me or leave a message on my talk page) 18:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wich

• Wich → -wich town  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Having created Wich (disambiguation), I doubt that there is a primary topic of the term, and propose to move the disambiguation page over this redirect. BD2412 T 00:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Judging by the relative unnotability compared to the common -wich suffix, the existing page being a redirect to -wich town and keeping the existing hatnote on that page is fine. Just add a note at the top of wich (disambiguation) stating the primary topic. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]