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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 24, 2021.

Elmlea / Artificial cream

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The result of the discussion was retarge to separate targets. signed, Rosguill talk 05:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elmlea is a brand of a range of products imitating cream, not whipped cream specifically. Such redirects may be justified if the brand is known primarily for one product, but that doesn't seem to be the case here (indeed, the websites of the big 4 UK supermarkets don't even list this Elmlea product now).

On closer inspection, I see that this originally redirected to Artificial cream, but then there was a chain of page moves/redirects. I can't see that this is an appropriate redirect either - whether cream is artificial and whether it is whipped are fundamentally independent of each other. — Smjg (talk) 22:22, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A quick web search seems to show that Elmlea specializes in plant-based imitation cream, so Plant cream looks like a better redirect. The one complication is that, though many Elmlea products are plant-based, some also include dairy ingredients such as buttermilk. It looks like we need an article on imitation cream or imitation dairy products. Even better, someone could start an article on Elmlea, with appropriate links.... --Macrakis (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Standard Elmlea is made from buttermilk and vegetable fat. The plant-based imitation cream seems to be a more recent innovation. I'm not sure we need an Imitation cream article - a section on Cream would probably suffice if someone has the knowledge to write it. But to write an actual article about Elmlea would be even better. I was surprised there isn't one already, given that Elmlea seems to be a well-known brand. — Smjg (talk) 22:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Tire tool

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 05:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extremely ambiguous redirect that could be referring to anything from the large balancing machines used to fit wheel weights to the small repair kits found in basically every car in existence. A google search for this term turns up a huge number of different tools, I'm not seeing that tyre iron is the main use of this name. I couldn't find a "list of automotive tools" à la List of timber framing tools, so I'm unsure where this should target. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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ANBC

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 2#ANBC

Wikipedia:Delist

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Thank you to IP 86 for drafting up a dab page. signed, Rosguill talk 15:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The current target doesn't make much sense, as other processes include delisting. ((u|Sdkb)) talk 20:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rosguill: I've drafted a DAB under the redirect, I think I got all the delisting processes, but I might have missed some. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:15, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Super mutant

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Fallout (video game series). Nominally no consensus between deletion and retargeting, defaulting to redirect as no one has expressed any suupport for keeping the status quo. signed, Rosguill talk 19:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The concept of a Super Mutant is not unique to Fallout 4. Dominicmgm (talk) 07:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 7#Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987)

Test Wikipedia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Disambig/Move to projectspace. Consensus seems to be on the side that this should not exist, as least in the mainspace and likely not in this form. Will be moving to the projectspace and creating a disambig page. Feel free to edit/add items and discuss on its talk page. Killiondude (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC) Killiondude (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 April 27#Test Wikipedia resulted in a retarget; however, the topic is not mentioned at the target anymore nor anywhere else in mainspace. Since there is also no standalone page about this in other namespaces, I suggest deletion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Art of Stealth

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The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Doesn't make sense as a redirect to a disambiguation page due to its overly specific name. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 15:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Erwin Müller (Saarland)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as misleading redirect. The only notable Erwin Müller that's connected to Saarland is a politician (1906-1968, see e.g. de:Erwin Müller (Politiker, 1906) and fr:Erwin Müller), completely unrelated to German physicist from Berlin Erwin Wilhelm Müller (1911–1977). Place Clichy (talk) 15:43, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestinian separatism

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nominating for deletion, there is no such movement. The phrase gets very few google hits and those that it does have are related to the idea of Palestinian separatism from the wider Arab community. Viennese Waltz 10:18, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Strange how most Palestinians were suddenly pro-land taking when the land being taken was 100% the UN-given partition in one quick ethnic cleansing of Holocaust victims in '48. Of course actual 48 war was disastrous but majority probably expected Reconqista. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:04, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect example of a POV-pushing, pro-Nakba editor that makes the salting of problematic redirect titles a necessity. Of 19 (talk) 03:53, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hey don't put words in my mouth, I never would've made this redirect. Maybe you believe those desperate people with nothing to gain and everything to lose would've bullied/invaded the Palestinian partition first anyway but no one'll ever know cause of that illogical land grab. It's not fair when someone tries to take your partition, invades first, kills more percent of your people than you do of theirs then as soon as they're at the line again suddenly starts caring about the then newish "border crossing is war crime idea" and doesn't even say "sorry about the whole ethnic cleansing thing, don't invade and we'll compensate for the unfairness of entire war being on your land. Also this will be your last wipeout attempt, we won't try again every decade or so till the 70s". Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:47, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Meteorology/Books

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. No clear consensus on what to do with this, and given that this has been open for three weeks already, I don't think another relist is going to lead to a consensus. Hog Farm Talk 03:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to have started out as an attempt at making a subpage, years after subpages were discontinued in article space. Someone tried to G6 it shortly after creation but couldn't get the template to work, so it was redirected to the main article instead. Not a plausible way of searching for the target section in my opinion 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:2019

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. signed, Rosguill talk 05:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect page was purposely created for a test, and it is not useful anymore. There are no helpful pages that link to the redirect, which also only had nearly less than 100 pageviews since 2018. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 12:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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White horse flag

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The result of the discussion was retarget to White Horse of Kent. signed, Rosguill talk 05:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect is misleading, because although the target contains a section about the "White Horse Flag", that flag was an unadopted proposal. The reader is perhaps more likely to be looking for Flag of Kent. I think the redirect should be retargeted there with an explanatory hatnote. There are other flags with horses (see List of national flags by design) but the horse on those flags is relatively minor: there may be other targets about non-national flags. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Long Time

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Thanks to Shhhnotsoloud for creating the draft. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 07:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There are several titles with this name as well, and it is not clear this song is the primary topic, especially considering it does not match the title exactly as some others do. See Long Time (Blondie song), Long Time (Cake song), and "Long Time (Intro)", a song on the album Die Lit. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:55, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Podarke (polychaete)

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Titanic steel

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm Talk 03:43, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A 2006 era "R with possibilities" that doesn't seem to be mentioned in the target article - I'm unclear what this is supposed to be referring to. I found three possible targets for this: Titanic#Construction, launch and fitting-out describes the steel used in the titanic and theories related to it being brittle, while Darkhill Ironworks describes the Titanic Ironworks, named because it was involved in early experiments with titanium. Should this target one of these? Alternatively this could be refering to grades of steel containing titanium, in which case Alloy steel might be a better target?86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Do any of 86's suggest targets make sense, or is it better to just delete this?
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Cityfight

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate Cityfight and retarget the rest there. Thanks to BDD for creating the draft. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 07:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit of a mess of redirects in my opinion, with slight variations in capitalisation and punctuation sending readers to three very different articles. The warhammer 40K redirect is a partial title match for a codex (rule book) that was released as part of the Cities of Death expansion pack, the other two are self explanatory. My gut feeling with this is to retarget all of these to Cityfight: Modern Combat in the Urban Environment and hatnote to the article on Urban warfare, but I could also see the argument for disambiguation. There's also the related City fighting redirect, Which I won't nominate here to avoid a trainwreck. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:58, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting for firmer consensus on where to retarget.
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Relisting comment: Do we prefer the original suggestion to retarget to Warhammer 40,000, or is BDD's proposed disambiguation page a better option?
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Untitled sixth Ariana Grande studio album

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm Talk 03:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now is titled (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:50, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Potassium arsenate

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The result of the discussion was procedural close. Article has been established at Monopotassium arsenate. --BDD (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects to a different chemical compound; seems like this should be a red link until such an article is created? Or if someone could make a stub? -- Beland (talk) 01:19, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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