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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 31, 2016.

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No inbound file links from the mainspace, completely mangled file name FASTILY 22:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kirin Fang

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not at target, and fails WP:NOTWIKIA. Seems to be the name of a weapon wielded by one of the playable characters in one of the games. Steel1943 (talk) 21:49, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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House of Zamanjić (Džamanjić)/Zamagna

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 April 8#House of Zamanjić (Džamanjić)/Zamagna

Ancient rome.

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The result of the discussion was delete. @BDD: Be amazed. Deryck C. 03:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 March 3#Greece. and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 3#Fly. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:16, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm not especially hopeful of finding strong consensus here, but the cited precedent is fairly shaky.
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Dragon Quest Monsters I & II

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The result of the discussion was keep. I've also taken into account the below discussion. --BDD (talk) 16:23, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:XY issues as Dragon Warrior Monsters (first game in the series, the current target of these redirects) and Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 are separate articles. Steel1943 (talk) 19:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On further thought, I agree with the reasoning below. Mamyles (talk) 22:23, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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NFL Bowl

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The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Bowl game#Professional bowl games. Past bowls that existed within the league aside, the NFL currently has more than one "bowl" game (Super Bowl and Pro bowl). —Godsy(TALKCONT) 03:05, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It might be helpful to look at cases where this phrase is used "in the wild". Is it?
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Roto trilogy

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect's target does not clarify what a "Roto trilogy" is. It seems that the redirect was an article that was converted into a redirect about a decade ago. The closest related target is Dragon Quest#Erdrick (aka Loto), but that section still doesn't explain "Roto trilogy". Delete. Steel1943 (talk) 19:39, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Dragon Warrior I & II

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) SSTflyer 13:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, all of these redirects targeted Dragon Warrior I & II (except for Dragon Warrior I & II) until it was converted into a redirect towards its current target. It seems the article was redirected due to being a compilation game with previously released games. As the situation currently stands, all of these redirects have textbook WP:XY issues. Steel1943 (talk) 19:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That, and about the "relevant info" ... sure, they will find the links for the individual articles referenced in these titles, but that's about it in reference to the subjects of these redirects. In other words, I would think the fact that the two referenced titles in the redirects are not the same as the entire video game series is a bit misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 19:58, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly harmless, though. It's not like we're redirecting them to Mostly Harmless. I don't think it should be an article or a dab page unless notability for the combined console release independent of the two games themselves can be established, and I highly doubt that. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 23:35, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is recreating the article as a disambiguation page an option? That way, a one-sentence lead could mention that it was released as a combined game in the NA market, and give both Dragon Quest I and Dragon Quest II as links for more information. Mamyles (talk) 20:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Mamyles: That sort of already happened in the past. Steel1943 (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Alefgard

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect. "Erdrick" is a character in the Dragon Quest multiverse, whereas "Alefgard" is a kingdom/continent. Alefgard doesn't seem to be identified anywhere specifically in this article. Delete. Steel1943 (talk) 19:14, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anothed idea would be to retarget to Dragon Quest (video game) since the subject is mentioned there.--76.65.41.126 (talk) 05:13, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This setting is present in at least Dragon Quest (video game) and Dragon Quest II, so that alone poses a WP:XY issue. Steel1943 (talk) 22:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Beast (Dragon Quest)

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:18, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect not identified at target article. Also, this redirect was formerly an article that probably fails WP:NOTWIKIA as an article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Dragon Quest characters

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Dragon Warrior I & II (disambiguation)

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The result of the discussion was speedily deleted by User:Ponyo as "G6: Obviously unnecessary disambiguation page" (non-admin closure) by Si Trew (talk) 03:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dragon Warrior I & II (disambiguation) → Dragon Quest  (links · history · )     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Redirect's target is neither a disambiguation page nor a full title match. Steel1943 (talk) 19:06, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Dragon Quest 25 Shūnen Kinen Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I・II・III

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Steel1943 (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is no information for this redirect's subject at its target. Apparently, this was a compilation game released in Japan for the Wii per the redirect's edit history. Probably best to delete or restore article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:04, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Recalcitrants

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The result of the discussion was no consensus; both will again retarget Recalcitrant seed. --BDD (talk) 16:11, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Two pages:

These two pages have different targets, but at one time, both targeted Recalcitrant seed. I don't think the wiktionary target is good, and the seed target is weak too. I lean towards deleting both, but maybe there's another target? Oiyarbepsy (talk) 02:22, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Caral civilization

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The result of the discussion was keep-ish. This nomination is a bit misleading, in that the page isn't a redirect to Norte Chico civilization as implied by the usual RfD formatting. But my close is making it just that. Call that a keep, a retarget, whatever—just "redirect" might be most accurate—but that's the outcome. --BDD (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

re-targeting Article says it's only a Spanish name for NCC. Someone has prevented any deletion or move over the years Smarkflea (talk) 17:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Caral-Supe civilization, which is given as an alternative name in the first sentence of the article text, redirects to Norte Chico civilization and has done for a long time (redirecting to Caral until January 2007). Caral-Supe and Sacred City of Caral also redirect there. Si Trew (talk) 03:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You should have taken it to WP:AFD. The other I mentioned, which is a redirect, could be listed here though. I think the "correct" procedure would be to restore the article, close this RfD WP:PROD that article and raise RfD or WP:CSD for the other redirect depending on the outcome of that PROD. Seems long winded to me, though... Si Trew (talk) 18:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Ray Narvaez, Jr.

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The result of the discussion was keep. Rob's argument carries the day, but it's worth monitoring the situation in the future. If he becomes notable for some other venture, WP:REDLINK or WP:XY deletion is possible. --BDD (talk) 16:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ray left Achievement Hunter last year. Don't think his name should redirect to his former occupation anymore. GamerPro64 14:45, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The only information on the project about Ray is at the Achievement Hunter, and so anyone seeking information about him will find the Achievement Hunter article most useful. There's no sense in removing potentially useful navigation in favor of a red link that definitely won't provide useful navigation. thanks for the notification about this discussion. ~ RobTalk 14:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
But he's not part of the group anymore. He's his own person. Some examples from other RfDs I've made, Max Read isn't part of Gawker anymore so he shouldn't be redirected to there. Jon jafari isn't part of Game Grumps anymore so she shouldn't be redirected there. I think I even saw him say he didn't want that to happen on Twitter too. GamerPro64 04:10, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@GamerPro64: Max Read was deleted based on WP:REDLINK, which doesn't apply here since the article was recently deleted at AfD as non-notable. Jon jafari's close was based entirely on WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, which has no bearing here unless there's some evidence Ray doesn't want the redirect. I don't see either RfD as setting any precedent applying to this discussion. ~ RobTalk 04:18, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Declaration of the Rights of Women

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was PROD'd by User:Alan De Smet with rationale "Nothing links here, and there is a different 19th century declaration of the same name, meaning the risk of erroneously linking here and redirecting to the below is high.". While undertaking New Page Patrol, the redirect came up in my feed - however WP:PROD states that a redirect can not be deleted through the PROD process (refer this footnote). I emphasize that my contesting of the PROD was procedural only and without prejudice towards deletion. sandgemADDICT yeah? 08:39, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jemima Witness

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:00, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial joke from Family Guy. It's not notable enough to be mentioned anywhere. -- Tavix (talk) 03:44, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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F Guy

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 21:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, Family Guy is rarely known as "F Guy." Also vague to Fabrice Guy or Fritz Guy. -- Tavix (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And that's not a good idea since people searching for "F Guy" could be looking for Family Guy, which isn't listed there. -- Tavix (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Couldn't we put a ((redirect)) on the DAB to Family Guy? Si Trew (talk) 18:27, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but that seems awfully trivial. Here's my dilemma with this redirect: Family Guy is rarely known as "F Guy." However, I believe someone searching for "F Guy" would want Family Guy over the three relatively obscure people at Guy (surname). Therefore, I believe deletion would be the most logical thing to do with this redirect, especially since it isn't being used (stats at ~4 hits/month). -- Tavix (talk) 18:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, since the dilemma is a real one, it's WP:XY thus delete per WP:RFD#D2. I don't mind being the fall guy. Si Trew (talk) 20:21, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is not a real problem, since as stated by the nominator, it is not really about Family Guy, whereas in the real world, people's names frequently appears as First Initial and Last Name, so a very real use for Guy surname exists -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 05:21, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, but you can't just ignore the fact that "Family Guy," "fall guy," etc. can be abbreviated as "F. Guy," causing problems in the off-chance that someone searches in that matter. That's why it's better off deleted: either place you put it, there'll be a problem, that's part of the premise of WP:XY. As for your friends at Guy (surname), you'll be hard pressed to find sources where they're referred to as simply "F Guy" ("F. Guy," maybe. I wouldn't call it "frequently" as you put it though.) It's much ado about nothing though, it's not like this redirect is being used... -- Tavix (talk) 05:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If they are highly unlikely uses, then they don't get a redirect in the first place, so those options are not viable choices, leaving only the surname ones, which are viable choices. -- 70.51.46.39 (talk) 03:39, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
But they aren't "highly unlikely" uses—in fact Family Guy shows up for me more than anything else when I search "F Guy," making it more plausible than the surname choices, even if I believe it to meet the "novel or obscure" synonym threshold to delete per WP:R#D8. -- Tavix (talk) 03:43, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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List of national capitals of countries in Europe by area

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 08:28, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as misleading. The list of European capitals doesn't include the area of the capitals (and I don't know why it would, it seems too trivial). -- Tavix (talk) 03:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Anexo:Pais who have participated in the Dances of the World

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 08:27, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is an eswiki remnant. On eswiki the Anexo namespace is used for lists and tables. The half-translation and use of a nonexistent (on enwiki) namespace make this an unlikely query. Raymie (t • c) 03:15, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This year

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 19:48, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

We generally do not make soft redirects in the article namespace. A hard redirect cannot work because the value changes every year. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:04, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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