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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 5, 2016.

Re-introductory

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete all except reintroducing, reintroduced, reintroductions and reintroduction. BDD said in his relist that we're past the Rubicon, so this is my best attempt to summarise the discussion and draw a conclusion by weighing the comments below with evidence and policy. From the arguments below, "reintroducing", "reintroduced", and "reintroductions" are close modifications and should be preserved to prevent breaking incoming links to "reintroducing" and "reintroductions". Incoming links agree with arguments below that "reestablishment" is primarily used in the political sense rather than the conservation sense, so they should be deleted to make way for a disambiguation page. Where we should put the page currently at reintroduction of a species, and what we should do to reintroduction, is left open for editorial decisions beyond RfD. Deryck C. 23:29, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I found this series of redirects by Neelix pointed at an article called Reintroduction, but the article is all about putting animals into places they used to live - a very specific use of a very general term. The long time mistitling of the article confuses search results for me. To solve this mess:

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This got a bit messy; it would've been better to attempt one thing at a time, but we've crossed the Rubicon now. We could have "Reintroduction" red with an article at "Reintroduction of a species"—that's not as bad as if we had the article at "Reintroduction (species)" or something. But it seems suboptimal. I might also move Reintroduction of a species to Species reintroduction, in case that affects anything, though I'll wait for this to resolve first.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm in favout of the simpler title "Species introduction". Lots of reliable sources use it, such as Scottish National Heritage,[sr 1] the International Union for Conservation of Nature[sr 2] and the National Wildlife Federation,[sr 3] so it's not as if we'd be inventing it. Si Trew (talk) 15:51, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "The National Species Reintroduction Forum". snh.gov.uk. Scottish National Heritage. 11 June 2015. Retrieved 7 February 2016.
  2. ^ "Guidelines for Reintroductions and Other Conservation Translocations (Annex 1)" (PDF). International Union for Conservation of Nature. 2013. p. 3. Retrieved 7 February 2016.
  3. ^ ""An Introduction to Species Reintroduction"". National Wildlife Federation. February 2012. Retrieved 7 February 2015.
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Radical Mongoose

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈(conjugate) 08:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Non needed redirect CrashUnderride 12:40, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't mean it needs to be a redirect to his page. CrashUnderride 03:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it does, that's one of the main purposes of redirects, to get readers to the information they're looking for when they search for alternate titles. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete Radical Mongoose, just something Adam Rose says in Twitter. Not a wrestling nickname. Rose wants to be known as Radical Mongoose, it doesn't make it into a nickname. Also, the source was unreliable. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 00:12, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Iron Man of the WWE

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 February 12#Iron Man of the WWE

(Far from) Home

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) sst✈(conjugate) 08:29, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect seems to exist solely so the song title isn't a redlink. A link to the band might make better sense on the Far from Home disambiguation page if needed. But a search of the wiki doesn't bring up this page unless you use the brackets. 🍺 Antiqueight chat 05:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a redirect because the song itself wasn't notable, so I BOLDly redirected it to the album from which it came rather than AFDing it. I have no objection to re-redirecting it to the band. Or to scrapping it altogether and having the DAB page merely point to the album as its one bluelink. DMacks (talk) 05:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Honestly? It confused the heck out of me - But if it makes sense to all of you, then let it be. 🍺 Antiqueight chat 15:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What you said - "a search ... doesn't bring up this page unless you use the brackets". So it's reasonable to assume that a user searching using the brackets is looking for this song title, otherwise why would you type the brackets? As such, it's reasonable to send that user to a page about the album the song appears on. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:REFORMWIKIPEDIA

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Though there's some interest in retargeting to Wikipedia:Reform, there's consensus to delete. Arguably, a WP shortcut with "Wikipedia" in the title is redundant anyway. And as for the second, well—some editors don't take kindly to that sort of thing. (I don't care too much.) --BDD (talk) 16:14, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This is essentially a relist of the discussion for this redirect that happened a week or so ago. The last discussion was closed to "no consensus" when the redirect's target was Wikipedia:Reform of Wikipedia. As one can now see, that is no longer the case: The former target was userfied as a result of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Reform of Wikipedia. Steel1943 (talk) 04:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @.js: Do you have a recommendation of where these redirects should be retargeted? Steel1943 (talk) 23:08, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steel1943: Perhaps one of these:
While it may be true that there is disagreement over whether Wikipedia needs reforms, there is strong consensus that your proposed reforms are profoundly misguided, if they are even possible (which in some cases they are not, at least without changes in the law). Guy (Help!) 01:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I do not see any disagreement that WP needs reforms, only disagreement what reforms. But here is the place for discussing a redirect only. --.js[democracy needed] 01:08, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It appears the reason behind deleting the redirects is that JzG has a disagreement with the essay. That's not a valid reason to delete the redirects. QuackGuru (talk) 01:12, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This were all deleted save one retargeted. Being fair to QuackGuru and the other authors, I don't think there's any proposal to re-create those. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would normally be for this but when the target is shorter than the redirect we shouldn't have a redirect. Mrfrobinson (talk) 13:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Telling lies to children

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The result of the discussion was delete. The general consensus is that this target isn't helpful to the reader. Deryck C. 22:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The target article is not at all about this subject. Rather it is about a neologism from a fantasy novel. Sammy1339 (talk) 02:55, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It may be relevant to know that the target article itself is likely to soon be redirected as it fails GNG. See here. --Sammy1339 (talk) 03:44, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Then it should point to Pedagogy.—Odysseus1479 08:25, 6 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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