Wikipedia Mediation Cabal | |
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Article | Hardcore images |
Status | Closed |
Request date | 18:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC) |
Requesting party | Herostratus (talk) |
Mediator(s) | NicholasTurnbull |
Comment | No acceptance or participation from other party. May be reopened if dispute still ongoing. |
WP:HARDCORE, an essay.
(Note: although this essay is currently in userspace, it was in mainspace (and survived an MfD in the fall). In connection to this ANI thread (permalink, may not be up to date) it was moved to userspace due to the current dispute, but this is temporary and it will be moved back (probably with an advisory MfD) after this dispute is resolved. So it should be treated (and may be edited) in all ways as if it was in mainspace.)
The dispute is over the thrust of the essay WP:HARDCORE, what it should be about, and how this should be expressed.
Well, I would like the disputes over the essay to be resolved fairly. I would like to return the essay to its place in mainspace, and in order to do that all parties need to be satisfied that they have had the chance to make appropriate input, I think.
We are having difficulty communication. For one thing, User:Atomaton and fundamentally disagree about a number of basic things, such as how words are defined and the purpose and nature of essays. For another... well, it's an essay, which is my nature going to express a given philosophy. And we fundamentally disagree, philosophically. So yes, we are sort of talking past each other.
I also think that User:Atomaton motives are highly questionable (and have plenty of good reason to believe that). He maintains that his motives are pure, and it is possible that he sincerely believes this. So obviously this also makes working together difficult.
Well, it's rather a difficult situation. Here is my take on the matter, and User:Atomaton of course may have a different view.
It's a difficult situation because User:Atomaton and I are disagreeing fundamentally. However, while difficult, the situation is not insuperable. I guess my suggestion would be for User:Atomaton's suggestions to be presented and these determination made by a neutral person:
However, any other suggestions for resolving this dilemma would also be welcome.
I can take on this case if you like - it's just a question of whether the other editor is interested in participating (he hasn't yet responded on this page - have you notified him?)--Ludwigs2 16:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello there. I will pick this case up, as it was some time since Ludwigs2 volunteered to mediate. First, however, as Ludwigs2 said, we need agreement from the other party. I will post a message on both of your talk pages in a moment. --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 18:06, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
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A general comment, as I am reading through the open MedCab cases -- Herostratus, you framed this case very politely and collegially, and I salute you for it. –SJ+ 08:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)