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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Chrislk02 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 01:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I went ahead and deleted this. I dont know the proper closing tags so somebody is welcome to add them. Chrislk02 ^{Chris Kreider} 14:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 01:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 01:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Possible Copyright violation Nv8200p talk 01:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: - Keep and tagged for commons move - good free photo of a notable subject it seems - Peripitus (Talk) 05:41, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Possible COI Nv8200p talk 01:52, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• *blinks* Since when has "COI" been a reason for image deletion? I assume you mean something like "unencyclopedic self-promotion", but given that we do have an article on the guy, it seems to me quite reasonable to have a few free images too. Anyway, I'd say weak keep, though this really ought to be moved to Commons and given a better filename in the process. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 01:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image, summary says "martin hernandez" who i think is the person who uploaded the image. May be the photographer. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a soccer team. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a soccer team Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, No evidence of permission for GFDL release Nv8200p talk 02:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: looks like a duplicate of Image:Xmenstud`cio009zi3.jpg which has the correct attribution. nneonneo ^talk 01:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: image kept. -Nv8200p talk 03:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:2006 Cat-Deeley face.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Porfitron (notify | contribs).

• Unused image of Cat Deeley. Appears to be cropped from another larger photo to show only her face. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP I'm not sure why it isn't being used... I'm putting back into the article, as it appears to have been uploaded by the copyright holder. I can see it was removed by an IP edit last year here[1] --Knulclunk (talk) 20:56, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP The intent of that photo was for use in that article... was unaware that it had been removed. Porfirio Landeros (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a band playing. Shot on stage from stage left Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• unused image of one of those fair "shoot the water into the clowns mouth" games Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, Unencyclopedic Nv8200p talk 02:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Tagged as Move to Commons. -Nv8200p talk 21:15, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of Jon Rogers. Duplicate Image:20070401 Blue Oyster Cult Killington Mogals Jon Rogers.jpg has been CSD'd a few times. Soundvisions1 (talk) 02:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Why not just move to Commons? We don't currently have an article on Jon Rogers, but it's at least conceivable that he might be notable enough to get one some day. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Tagged as Move to Commons -Nv8200p talk 21:17, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a "Miss Earth" contestant from Cuba holding a "Save Mother Earth" sign. Soundvisions1 (talk) 03:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• If these (there's a whole series of them, some in use at Miss Earth 2008) are indeed free images, surely we should be moving them to Commons rather than deleting them. Anyway, keep — no point in deleting random images from a comprehensive series just because not all of them happen to be in use right now. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a band. No description as to who it is. Soundvisions1 (talk) 03:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Garion96 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:20080615-Jade.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Vincentkhm (notify | contribs).

• Unused image taken from on online fan site Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am officially withdrawing my Noms. Lets just ignore all rules and assume good faith in this matter. This user has made a lot of main space edits so I think it is fine to bend a few rules here. If there is a quesiton about copyright just change the licensing to fair use and add a FUR. It is good for the project. Soundvisions1 (talk) 23:42, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• I am the webmaster of source website Jade Online. The photographer Dick Ho is one of our member who often takes photos of Jade Kwan for the website. Jade Online reserves all the rights of his photos. Vincentkhm (talk) 09:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

::*Comment and notice: Please do not remove PUI, IfD, Copyvio or CSD tags from images you have uploaded yourself as you did with both this image and another. As you have identified that you are not the photographer in either case I have added a ((di-no permission)) tag to both images. Please do not remove these tags until the issue is resolved. Than you. Soundvisions1 (talk)

• The photographer is one of the photography-participators working for Jade Online. Jade Online and I as the main author hold all the rights of his participated photos that he made. Vincentkhm (talk) 19:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• This image is sourced right to Jade Online. Vincentkhm (talk) 21:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of a TV Screen taken with a cell phone. Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image. Unclear if it was taken by Martyn Doherty or if the subject of the image is Martyn Doherty. Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused album cover Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of "the Five Second Rule" Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused logo Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused promo image of wrestler Killer Kowalski Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of the Cheetah Girls. Small image and blurry. Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused icon sized image of actress Sarah Chalke Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Peripitus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused picture of feet using "Snoosy" Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused image of "41 North" Soundvisions1 (talk) 04:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) An image with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low resolution and quality, not sure of purpose JaGa^talk 08:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Seems to depict cyclopentadienyl rhodium bicarbonyl, a "piano stool compound". Badly named and easily replaceable, though. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, no encyclopedic value JaGa^talk 09:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, not useful JaGa^talk 09:14, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, has URL plastered on it, replaced by Image:4222sepia3-historynyc.jpg. JaGa^talk 09:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, replaced by Image:4222sepia3-historynyc.jpg. JaGa^talk 09:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, doesn't give full name of subject, low quality JaGa^talk 09:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Orphaned, low quality, non-notable JaGa^talk 09:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by East718 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Haughey-Mitterand.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Racconish (notify | contribs).

• A press photo used to identify who wears a brand of shirt ? Fails all parts of WP:NFCC Peripitus (Talk) 10:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Following points of WP:NFCC are respected: (1) There is no free equivalent. This point has already been made about Image:Charles_J._Haughey.jpg; (2)and (3b) The image is a cropped as possible and low res, so unlikely to replace the original market role of the original media; (4): previously published on the BBC website, with no copyright indication; (5), (7) (8)and (9): visual illustration of the article; (6) and (10): fair use rationale presented. Pending the end of this discussion, I removed the controversial image from the page. Racconish (talk) 10:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:NFCC2 (we don't ordinarily use news images without an extremely good reason) and WP:NFCC8 (readers can understand who wears a shirt without seeing a picture of it). Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Low quality, non-free. Calliopejen1's logic makes sense. -Nv8200p talk 00:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:MichaelCrichton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dr. Blofeld (notify | contribs).

• Replaceable fair-use image - fails WP:NFCC#1. As the subject is still alive it is possible to create a free replacement....however hard this is I've been reminded that he recently died... I will have a look as it seems unlikely such a well known author was not photographed extensively by people who don't make money from the exercise - Peripitus (Talk) 11:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you think Michael Crichton is alive and living, you should seriously start reading the newspapers or watching the news. Count Blofeld 11:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete He is dead, but I find it hard to believe that no one has a photo of Crichton that they would be willing to license freely. One of the missing-image boxes might generate an upload. It is also hard to ask permission to freely license a photo if we already are using a non-free one. I couldn't find any possibilities on flickr, but there are other places to request from. Several possibilities to contact and request free licensing: Harvard Gazette (unlikely but possible), skeptic.com (seems like a good chance of getting a CC license because they already have a vague statement granting permission for use at the bottom), random apparent amateur photographer (who knows). Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an image from Flickr, which is already licensed under the Attribution-NonCommercial CC license [http://flickr.com/photos/ilovechin/3011971210/sizes/o Michael Crichton by Chee Chin]. mohit.ed (talk) 01:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a copyvio - it comes from the Harvard Gazette article linked above. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep until replacement is found. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. what the user above said.LoveLaced (talk) 21:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by East718 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:BHLevy.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Racconish (notify | contribs).

• Fair-use image used simply as eye-candy in a list of people who wear a certain brand - fails WP:NFCC#8 amongst others Peripitus (Talk) 11:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The caption you have removed was explaining the relationship between the image and the text:"The white open collar Charvet shirt has become part of Bernard-Henri Lévy's visual identity." The article links to a source (Weber, Caroline (September 2008). "Brains of the outfit". New York Times. Retrieved 2008-10-04.) where you can read for yourself about the "the suavely unbuttoned garment that for his fans and detractors alike has become synonymous with his name". Another source (Ireland, Doug (March 3, 2006). "The lies of Bernard-Henry Lévy". In these times. Retrieved 2008-11-16.), related to an eponymous book, says:"That unbuttoned white shirt, by the way, is an important element of BHL’s TV and public images and it tells a lot about the man. If you tried it with your own shirt, the collar would sag. But BHL’s shirts are specially designed by the famous shirt-maker Charvet, with collars that withstand the unbuttoning and never disappear under his jacket." I could quote more sources but hope you will find these convincing enough. Pending the issue of this discussion, I remove the image from the article. Thank you, Racconish (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete If it is so much a part of his identity, we should be able to get a free image. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Point made on part of identity, which you seem to accept, justifies it's not "eye-candy" but a visual clarification of the text. It is an argument in favor of fair use, not deletion. Naturally, it would be simpler to get a free image, but there is none, as explained in the fair use rationale. You can check on [2] : the image is used on the flap part of the cover of the book Ce grand cadavre à la renverse, which justifies its choice. Racconish (talk) 09:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• I meant that if he wears these so often, there is no reason we can't get a free image. It is unnecessary to address NFCC8 because this also fails NFCC1 (replaceable). Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• • You convinced me: I revert my Keep to Delete. Racconish (talk) 15:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 13:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Penelope ortoni1.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by EllisD (notify | contribs).

• Copyvio. Claimed as being released to public domain by the copyright holder, but, as also stated in the description, it simply is taken from BirdLife International. Note the "© 2008 BirdLife International." at the bottom of the page. See also section 3 in Terms and conditions. This illustration was originally made for Threatened birds of the World published in 2000 by Lynx Edicions in cooperation with BirdLife International. • Rabo³ • 12:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of note that it appears this user has added little if any non-copyvio to wiki. I've just cleaned up his copyvio contributions to Baudo Guan and El Chocó (the latter now a redirect). A fast check suggests other things added by this user are problematic, too, though some have been modified to an extend where little (if any) true copyvio remains. • Rabo³ • 14:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8. There are no referenced articles to support that this image was used to display an obsessive attitude toward firearms. The "keep" discussions fail to establish anything about the image that makes it significant to the article. The text is sufficient to explain that he was exposed to guns as a child. -Nv8200p talk 18:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Whitman as a child.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).

• Decorative image showing a future murderer, 2 rifles and a puppy. Not really helpful to the article. Damiens.rf 13:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, photo was widely published by news sources at the time as Whitman displayed obsessive attitude towards firearms, and then became the most prolific criminal sniper in known history -- very relevant, no loss of commercial viability, low-resolution, fits Fair-Use to a tee. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 23:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep! I've changed my view. Since the photo was staged by the father, there may be some merit to incorporating it into the article. He obviously didn't shoot the dog. Plus, he didn't kill their pet dog Scochie either before killing his wife and the other victims at UT. He was Pre-Peta!Victor9876 (talk) 02:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this vote is placed by the four-time perma-banned troll, and former best friend of the man credited with shooting with Whitman before a falling-out led to a lawsuit against him. He is a sock of User:Subwayjack, who was banned after making death threats, legal threats, removing photographs from the article and disrupting the project to such a degree that Jimbo himself had to intervene. He routinely registers socks to get around his many perma-bans, and is a troll at best, a criminal liability at worst. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does all of this mean you don't like me, Sherurcij?Victor9876 (talk) 23:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment on content, not on the contributor. --Damiens.rf 13:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Image is more than decorative, it is used to illustrate a point made in the article regarding subject's early exposure to guns. Use is in congruence with rationale for illustration in Wikipedia articles. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Neutral I'm torn. I think it would depend on how widely this photo was published, which isn't entirely clear. If this photo was reprinted everywhere as evidence that he was obsessed with guns as a child, it would be worth keeping. If not, I don't think it satisfies WP:NFCC8. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, more than merely illustrative. Makes a substantive point which cannot be made by equivalent words. --Relata refero (disp.) 20:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8. The image is not shown to be significant to the article. The fact that the image was published by news sources does not make it significant to the article by default. Meeting fair use criteria is not the same as meeting Wikipedia's more stringent non-free content criteria. There is no referenced commentary to support any of the points presented in the discussion to keep the image. The image is merely illustrative of the fact that he got married, which text is sufficient to convey. -Nv8200p talk 18:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Whitman-marriage.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).

• Decorative wedding picture of a future murderer. Not really helpful to the article. Damiens.rf 13:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, borders on bad-faith nomination as nominator has suggested deleting almost every photo from Charles Whitman, usually saying they're "disgusting" which really isn't relevant in any way to their encyclopaedic value in showing the human, and criminal, side of the subject. Photo was published by news sources at the time, of the most prolific criminal sniper in known history. -- very relevant, no loss of commercial viability, low-resolution, fits Fair-Use to a tee. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 23:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Again, prior publishing may have had permission from photograher or family member. Also, the wife still has family alive and may object. Delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Victor9876 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this vote is placed by the four-time perma-banned troll, and former best friend of the man credited with shooting with Whitman before a falling-out led to a lawsuit against him. He is a sock of User:Subwayjack, who was banned after making death threats, legal threats, removing photographs from the article and disrupting the project to such a degree that Jimbo himself had to intervene. He routinely registers socks to get around his many perma-bans, and is a troll at best, a criminal liability at worst. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 03:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • if this is "four-time perma-banned troll", why is the account under which this comments was left still active? 66.168.27.211 (talk) 03:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Image is more than decorative. It illustrates the subject of the article and his wife, whom he murdered in the spree, and reinforces the change in subject. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete give me a break, bad faith nomination? This is not necessary to understand the article, fails WP:NFCC8. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - passes NFCC#8. Whitman's wife was a murder victim, so this shows a contrast between Whitman's earlier happy life and what happened later. This is again visual evidence documenting a murder spree and significantly increases reader's understanding of what happened. It should be kept. INTGAFW (talk) 21:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Defintely.Its historical.It tells Whitmans story,like words cannot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynot911 (talk • contribs) 01:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8. The fact that the image was published by news sources does not make it significant to the article by default. Meeting fair use criteria is not the same as meeting Wikipedia's more stringent non-free content criteria. There are no objective points presented in the discussion to keep the image to show that the image is significant to the understanding of the article. The image is merely illustrative of the fact he killed his mother, which text is sufficient to convey.

Image:Whitman's mother.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).

• Disgusting non-free picture of a murder victim. Not necessary for reading about the case. Damiens.rf 13:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, borders on bad-faith nomination as nominator has suggested deleting almost every photo from Charles Whitman, usually saying they're "disgusting" which really isn't relevant in any way to their encyclopaedic value in showing the human, and criminal, side of the subject. Photo was published by news sources at the time, of the most prolific criminal sniper in known history. -- very relevant, no loss of commercial viability, low-resolution, fits Fair-Use to a tee. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 23:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Dead body has no benefit to the article except morbid fascination. Disrespecful of surviving family and friends.Victor9876 (talk) 02:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this vote is placed by the four-time perma-banned troll, and former best friend of the man credited with shooting with Whitman before a falling-out led to a lawsuit against him. He is a sock of User:Subwayjack, who was banned after making death threats, legal threats and disprupting the project to such a degree that Jimbo himself had to intervene. He routinely registers socks to get around his many perma-bans, and is a troll at best, a criminal liability at worst. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 03:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Wikipedia is not censored and "disgusting" is a POV assessment of a non-graphic image the use of which does not violate copyright since it was released evidence in court case. The image is low resolution and presented in small thumbnail. There is no valid reason for removal from article or deletion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:NFCC8 - not necessary to see the victim to understand the murder. To my knowledge, there is no surprising/uniquely visual evidence presented in this image. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - this article documents a murder and shooting spree. Of course some visual evidence of what happened significantly increases reader's understanding. Wikipedia is not censored and "disgusting" is not a valid reason for deletion. INTGAFW (talk) 21:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - not necessary to see this to know that she was murdered. Inappriate and disrespecful to the victim. I haven't seen photos of the dead victims in other pages involving murders - I don't think it's a good practice. Gwyka 16:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep This is part of the article and not overwhelming. I think the negative comments throughout all of the Whitman photos here should be refractored, WP:NPA and all that by Sherurcij. --CrohnieGal^Talk 14:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by East718 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 13:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Charles Whitman's corpse.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by PNG crusade bot (notify | contribs).

• Disgusting picture of a dead body used in a bio. Completely unnecessary. Damiens.rf 13:12, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, borders on bad-faith nomination as nominator has suggested deleting almost every photo from Charles Whitman, usually saying they're "disgusting" which really isn't relevant in any way to their encyclopaedic value in showing the human, and criminal, side of the subject. Photo was published by news sources at the time, of the most prolific criminal sniper in known history. -- very relevant, no loss of commercial viability, low-resolution, fits Fair-Use to a tee. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 23:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your rationale in the photo upload is wrong. The photo is a crime scene photo, it was never used as evidence in a court.Victor9876 (talk) 21:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• The photo does not clearly show that it is Whitman. Appears the supplier has a morbid curiosity instead of encyclopedic intentions. Delete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Victor9876 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this vote is placed by the four-time perma-banned troll, and former best friend of the man credited with shooting with Whitman before a falling-out led to a lawsuit against him. He is a sock of User:Subwayjack, who was banned after making death threats, legal threats and disprupting the project to such a degree that Jimbo himself had to intervene. He routinely registers socks to get around his many perma-bans, and is a troll at best, a criminal liability at worst. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 03:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Wikipedia is not censored and "disgusting" is a POV assessment of a low resolution non-graphic image the use of which does not violate usage. It is a unique image from an historical event, of the subject in a biography of a spree killer. The image is low resolution and presented in small thumbnail. There is no valid reason for removal from article or deletion. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:NFCC8 - not necessary to understand artilce. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - this article documents a murder and shooting spree. Of course some visual evidence of what happened significantly increases a reader's understanding (that is the required standard, not whether it is "necessary to understand" - let's not let Calliopejen push the boundaries here). It passes NFCC#8 for this reason. I call upon the closing moderator to assume good faith and let us fix the rationale if it is not sufficient, but there is a good case for significant understanding if visual evidence of a crime is established by the photos in the article. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not censored and "disgusting" is not a valid reason for deletion. INTGAFW (talk) 21:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any good attorney will tell you INTGAFW, that a "Reasonable and Prudent" rule will win most arguments. The issue here is, does the displaying of dead bodies further the article, or diminish it to gory details? I could upload the photos of Whitman and his victims from the Cook Funeral home in Austin where most of the bodies were taken. However, I do not feel inclined to do so because some readers (or lookers), would take great offense to seeing the death stare, gaping mouths, positions they are in and damage done to some of the bodies. Also, there are still victims families, friends and loved ones still alive who may stumble upon the photo's, causing them great emotional harm since there are no "Warning" labels to prevent them from such harm. I've already cast my vote, I hope this helps others to consider the harm the death photos may do.Victor9876 (talk) 03:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• KEEP THIS It's evidence. Grow up. If people are worried about their children seeing something, they should monitor their children's computer time. People who are taking Crime Classes can find this Crime Article with it's Criminal Pictures Educational.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.3.199.92 (talk) 03:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Who mentioned anything about children exclusively!? But hey, you're right, in fact, we should upload a bunch of kiddie porn so people who are taking courses in Crime Classes and Deviant Behavior can see what it is all about!!! Is that what you are saying? Also, let's upload every concievable, abhorrent picture dealing with every murder case since the beginning of photography, so that people who are taking photo courses, can see how to angle and adjust the lens. Is that grown up enough for ya? I doubt it!Victor9876 (talk) 04:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Your Straw man argument about uploading "kiddie porn" etc. is completely irrelevant and inappropriate, as is your attitude. Is Sherurcij correct that you have a personal stake or conflict of interest here? Your misguided passion seems to suggest as much. These family members you speak of reading Wikipedia articles about their loved ones' murders should expect some discomfort (anyway, the images are pretty poor, I can't even see definitive wounds or evidence that these people are dead). The argument for or against these images should be based on the threshhold set by WP:NFCC#8, not whether a handful of editors think they are "disgusting" or the potential for sensitive readers to come across them. I don't hear you complaining about the images at penis and vagina, which would surely make my grandma faint. — TAnthony^Talk 00:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this unnecessary, undiscussed image. It is neither the subject of critical commentary per the NFC acceptable use guideline, nor is the specific subject of the image discussed in the article at all so as to have any understanding to increase (WP:NFCC#8). — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 21:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is VISUAL evidence of a crime spree which is described in detail in the article. Media is visual by nature - there is no other way to better understand it. Why can't you understand this? INTGAFW (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm missing some detail of the article, there is no discussion of this copyrighted media. If there's no discussion thereof, then there's nothing for which the imagery is increasing understanding. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 14:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I see no compelling argument that these images should be deleted per policy. — TAnthony^Talk 00:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Show the "Penis" and "Vagina" photos to your Grandmother, if she faints, that's a compelling argument! If you can't tell the people are dead, that's another argument against keeping them, they serve no purpose.Victor9876 (talk) 02:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • By all means, nominate the penis pics for deletion, perhaps those people can make my argument for me. The fact that you and my grandma are sensitive to a photo is completely irrelevant; those photos remain there because they are encyclopedic and violate no policy. I'm sorry if murky images of dead people make you squeamish, but perhaps then you shouldn't read articles about spree murderers.— TAnthony^Talk 02:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I have no interest in penis or vagina pictures, that's your relevancy, you can argue that better than me, and according to your bio, totally in favor of the penis. If those photos are encyclopedic and violate no policy - why is everyone discussing it here? I didn't bring it up, I'm just participating in a discussion, while you vent your perfectionism. I like your Grandma by the way, she's relevant!Victor9876 (talk) 02:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I don't really understand why this debate has become so heated, but I don't see any reason for the photo to be deleted either. It is history and fact. Just because it isn't the most pleasant photo to see doesn't make it irrelevant. It is an article about a sniper shooting spree.. it isn't any more pleasant to read without the photo.--Wilbury311 (talk) 17:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I see no problem with this photo and the death is mentioned in the article along with the letter Whitman wrote. But I put a note on the talk page. In my opinion there are way too many photos in this article that the photos are overwhelming the article and are disorganized. --CrohnieGal^Talk 14:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete. —Angr 16:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Whitman-Chronicle.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sherurcij (notify | contribs).

• Non-free scan of a non-notable newspaper article. Damiens.rf 13:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep, borders on bad-faith nomination as nominator has suggested deleting almost every photo from Charles Whitman, usually saying they're "disgusting" which really isn't relevant in any way to their encyclopaedic value in showing the human, and criminal, side of the subject. Photo is down-scaled to NOT show the newspaper article, only the headline, and is very relevant, no loss of commercial viability, low-resolution, fits Fair-Use to a tee. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 23:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• The Chronicle could be contacted and asked for permission to use. No evidence exists to show that has happened. Delete.Victor9876 (talk) 02:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this vote is placed by the four-time perma-banned troll, and former best friend of the man credited with shooting with Whitman before a falling-out led to a lawsuit against him. He is a sock of User:Subwayjack, who was banned after making death threats, legal threats and disprupting the project to such a degree that Jimbo himself had to intervene. He routinely registers socks to get around his many perma-bans, and is a troll at best, a criminal liability at worst. Sherurcij ^{(speaker for the dead)} 03:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - While in fact it is a scan of a notable newspaper edition of an historic event, the scan doesn't serve to clarify any points in article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails WP:NFCC8 - readers could understand incident perfectly well without seeing this. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I don't think it adds to the article plus it is tacky looking. I had to zoom in on it to see what it was. --CrohnieGal^Talk 13:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by East718 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:ClaudiaJennings-June70.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by MutterErde (notify | contribs).

• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and restore to Claudia Jennings, which otherwise has no images. (This image seems entirely appropriate too, in the context of the article.) Occuli (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as I5 by East718 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 01:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Karen PMOY98.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Fool156 (notify | contribs).

• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and restore. It is not just to prove that she appeared on the magazine. It was her highest achievement in her career to date, a major turning point for her. Her modeling/acting career was changed by this singular achievement as outlined in the rest of the article. Mineros (talk) 07:09, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You can still explain this all to the reader without this picture. --Damiens.rf 13:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: delete. There is a brief mention of the magazine in the article but nothing significant that needs the image to understand. -Nv8200p talk 14:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Playboy 2004-09.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by MJBurrage (notify | contribs).

• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The image and related text is not simply about a random appearance in Playboy but that this appearance was a highly visible example of 2004 Olympians appearing nude in magazines and calenders. (As noted in the ESPN source.) —MJBurrage^(T•C) 16:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  And the reader would be incapable of understanding that text without seeing this image. --Damiens.rf 17:05, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  The image shows context, marketing, and the inclusion of other Olympians (the point of the ESPN article) in a way that text alone would not. —MJBurrage^(T•C) 20:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Playboy magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that the model did appeared on the Playboy magazine cover. Damiens.rf 13:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free Life magazine cover showing a couple dancing "lindy hop", used just to reinforce the information that Life featured a couple dancing "lindy hop" on its cover. Damiens.rf 13:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used to illustrate a bio. Damiens.rf 13:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: - Keep - discussed in commentary and participants feel it meets NFCC - Peripitus (Talk) 11:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:BusinessWeek cover 14 Aug 2006.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Remember the dot (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover used just to reinforce the information that this guy was on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's used to reinforce two paragraphs of prose. Read on: "On the August 7, 2006, edition of this WEEK in TECH, Rose stated that he was not told that his picture would definitely be on the cover, and had asked that they not use the two-thumbs-up pose. John C. Dvorak stated that the cover and the article were insulting because of the unprofessional way they portrayed Kevin..." If we don't show the actual cover in question, it's pretty hard for the reader to see what all the fuss was about. —Remember the dot ^(talk) 23:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It is hard to imagine a better case for using a magazine cover.--Knulclunk (talk) 00:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Remember the Dot. JRG (talk) 04:29, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used to just to reinforce the fact that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used just to reinforce the information that this couple was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine used just to reinforce the information that these guys were featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 13:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• No source. Said to be a magazine's cover but it isn't. Damiens.rf 14:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:David-dubinsky-aug-29-1949.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Haus (notify | contribs).

• This Time magazine cover is used as the main picture of a biography. The image itself is non-free and non-notable (and is not discussed in the article) Damiens.rf 14:24, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Dance Spirit - January 2006 - Nick Lazzarini.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Esprit15d (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this girl was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Deng Xiaoping TIME.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kitkatcrazy (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:28, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Desmond Tutu and George Bush.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Cazo3788 (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Doesn't meet WP:NFCC. Vanity Fair is not mentioned in the article. Understanding of Desmond Tutu doesn't require a picture of him on a magazine cover with George Bush. Mind you, the picture with Brad Pitt is even less justified. Unusual? Quite ^TalkQu 15:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy's research was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:DickMorris TimeMagazineCover Scandal.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Rhobite (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This cover should not be deleted. It is helpful to researchers in identifying the man involved in the scandal. The cover should remain with the rest of the content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hippie55 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: delete. Seeing the cover of the magazine is not significant to the understanding of the text. -Nv8200p talk 14:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dnf-lol.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Chemtype (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this game was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, its a source for information in page, and a notability marker Patcat88 (talk) 08:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Duffy Daugherty Time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by GallanoHJS (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The cover itself is discussed and was the subject of a small amount of controversy. I had doubts based on this, so I followed the deletion guidelines. -Nv8200p talk 18:13, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Dole Kemp Time Magazine cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by TonyTheTiger (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that these guis were featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read the text of the Jack Kemp article. There is substantive discussion about this cover and why a portion of it mentions the discovery of life on mars. The cover is necessary to depict this controversy.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Image is used -- and needed -- to illustrate the unusual story about the VP nomination nearly being displaced from the magazine cover. --Orlady (talk) 16:07, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:EastEnders Radiotimes 3nights.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by EastEnders the great (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this tv-series was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Elisabeta Karabolli.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sportiv (notify | contribs).

• Incomplete (unverifiable) source, weird licensing. Damiens.rf 14:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: delete. Nothing in the text of the article that makes the image significant to the understanding of the article. -Nv8200p talk 14:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Elle williams 360.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Knulclunk (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this model was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:45, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Fair use of single magazine cover shows subject's work. This use is similar to the use of a fair use music sample of recording artist, 2D Art for painter, comic cover for an illustrator, or quotation from a writer or poet. --Knulclunk (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Addition fair use rationale includes:

• Limited amount of work in question; shoot, article, publication or cropped photograph;
• Choice of ELLE corresponds to model's most significant client, as she was on the cover of the popular fashion magazine over a dozen times in 4 years;
• Use of ELLE cover also corresponds to Williams's relationship with fashion photographer Gilles Bensimon, who worked at American ELLE during the same period;
• Choice of cover photograph credits publication, as opposed to similar interior or article photo;
• Choice of fashion photograph suitable for commentary in article about fashion model.

--Knulclunk (talk) 15:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Fails WP:NFCC#8 & #1 in Estes Kefauver and Coonskin cap. The image is used to illustrate a point that Estes Kefauver wore a coonskin cap. The text is sufficient to convey that information. There is no commentary as to why the TIME image itself is significant. The coonskin cap article has a free image. The subject of that article is about the coonskin cap, not about Estes Kefauver. -Nv8200p talk 17:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Estes Kefauver Time.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Craverguy (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this guy was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. The image is used to illustrate Senator Kefauver in his trademark coonskin cap, which is an important part of the article. I've added a fair-use justification to the image page. --Orlady (talk) 16:23, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Subsequently, I've boldly added this image to Coonskin cap, and added a second fair-use justification to the image page. I believe it has unique illustrative value in that article, too. --Orlady (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - additional information and all the proper fair use rationale. - Mafia Expert (talk) 09:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - proper fair use rationale; because Kefauver was a trademark wearer of the coonskin cap its use would be justified in that article because no free image of him wearing it is available and because adding an image of a wearer signifciantly adds to the article - yes, it could be described by words, but an image describing the thing itself in iconic wearers would be even better. Note that being necessary to convey is not the required standard - only that it significantly increase understanding - which it does. INTGAFW (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:NFCC8 in both articles (even more so in coonskin cap). Users can understand that he wears a coonskin cap and that he was on the cover without seeing a picture of it. Calliopejen1 (talk) 15:42, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Shows one way Kefauver was seen by millions of Americans. This is information that can't be conveyed with words alone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.192.97 (talk) 18:46, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. The image is appropriate as it shows Senator Kefauver in a coonskin cap as noted in the article. Senator Kefauver appeared on other Time magazine covers, September 17 1956, so it was not put here just to reinforce that he was on the cover of Time. In the September 17th issue, he was not wearing his coonskip cap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slyskawa (talk • contribs) 18:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Angr (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 02:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Excelsior Live & Learn Fall 2005.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Glenlarson (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover from a magazine that isn't even mentioned in the article. Damiens.rf 14:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The image fails WP:NFCC#8. The text in the paragraph concerning the cover is not a commentary on the cover image itself. The image is not significant to the understanding of the passage. -Nv8200p talk 17:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Evatime.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Andrew Parodi (notify | contribs).

• Non-free magazine cover being used just to reinforce the information that this woman was featured on the cover. Damiens.rf 14:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - incorrect justification of deletion. Cover is used as additional info with the the text and shows the importance of the event. - Mafia Expert (talk) 10:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a historically important event because it is the only time that a Latin American First Lady has appeared on the cover of Time Magazine. Image is of low resolution with extensive and detailed rationale provided. Obviously cannot be recreated in free context. Further, this cover story led to Time magazine being banned from Argentina for a year because it was the first article to mention that Eva Peron had been born out-of-wedlock ("illegitimate"). -- Andrew Parodi (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Here is the entire quote that makes reference to the Time cover, "During her tour to Europe, Eva Perón was featured in a cover story for Time magazine. The cover's caption — "Eva Perón: Between two worlds, an Argentine rainbow" — was a reference to the name given to Eva's European tour, The Rainbow Tour. This would be the first and only time in the periodical's history that a South American first lady appeared alone on its cover (in 1951, Eva appeared again with Juan Perón). However, the 1947 cover story was also the first publication to mention that Eva had been born out of wedlock. In retaliation, the periodical was banned from Argentina for several months." What part of that quote is "significantly increase[d]" by having the image as required by item WP:NFCC #8?--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, all in my opinion. Thanks for pointing this out, all the more reason to keep the image. - Mafia Expert (talk) 11:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Mafia Expert. The understanding of that quote is definitely increased by the image and meets NFCC8. Strong keep. INTGAFW (talk) 21:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of you truely answered my question tho, what specific part of the quote ("the periodical was banned"; "in 1951, Eva appeared again with Juan Perón"; "During her tour to Europe, Eva Perón was featured in a cover story for Time magazine") is significantly increased by having the cover in the article. This cover adds no further to the understanding, it is simply a graphic of her advertising the story inside the Time magazine. If it somehow visually represented that the story states she was born out of wedlock, there might be a case for that theoretical cover. If there had been some famous photo of an event in the tour on the cover, again perhaps a case could be made. I agree that it would be nice to have the cover there to suplement the text, but it does nothing to increase understanding.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan, as usual you are reading too much into the guideline. Magazine media is VISUAL - to represent that there was a story by showing the actual cover of the magazine (or alternatively the article) definitely increases our understanding of the fact that an article was written on a particular subject - particularly if that magazine or article was notable (which this is, in this case). You're putting too much of your own opinion into your deletion thoughts, instead of just reading the guideline with some common sense and accepting that visual media highlighting an important event or discovery DOES help increase understanding. Why don't we be cooperative and fix the rationale if you don't like it; let's help Wikipedia, not destroy it by over-zealous readings of copyrighted material. INTGAFW (talk) 01:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did answer your question, but it is not my fault you don't like the answer. The more the journey is described - the more reason for the Time cover. This was a historically important event which is illustrated by the fact that Time choose to dedicate its cover to it. And stop aping the argument about that it would be nice - that is a derogatory and silly argument. - Mafia Expert (talk) 21:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I may not have been completly clear or you mistook my the meaning of my "nice" comment... I think it is very important to have images in an encyclopedia. I also think images aid in understanding (the concept of a picture is worth a 1000 words), and recognise that some images significantly increase understanding. The issue is, WP is trying to create a completely free encyclopedia so we, as editors, always have to keep that in mind. Images that have not been released, or become through time, publicly usuable (as per applicable licensing) are not free and come in conflict with that mission. The WP:NFCC rules were designed to manage that conflict. As I understand, when a stable version of WP is issued it will not include any non-free images so when someone looks at this article on a CD-ROM version, the cover will not be there.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, than it won't be on the CD, as long as it stays on the online version, I don't really care. Who wants a CD when it is online anyway. I do see your concern, but what I don't understand is that you and others - who apparently are very worried about possible "non-free" images - do not try to get permission from various sources in stead of trying to delete images from entries. Many people have put considerable energy and time into writing these entries, it would be a truly joint effort if others would take care of getting wider permission for the use of images. Then we don't have to spent our time on these kinds of discussions. - Mafia Expert (talk) 08:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia never uses non-free content by permission because our content has to be reusable by others, and permission granted to us would not extend to other users. That's why non-free image has to have a strong fair use rationale proving that we don't need permission to use it. —Angr 16:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which other users? That is their problem. If they just link to Wikipedia there is no problem when we have the permission. You are just making up problems that don't really exist. Anyway, since there is a very strong fair use rationale, there is no problem. We can keep the image. - Mafia Expert (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which other users?? I have to ask, do you understand what WP is trying to do? May I suggest you have a read over Free Culture movement, Licensing_policy, and Wikipedia:Free encyclopedia? In regards to the "very strong" fair use rationale... you may wish to read over it again, it is written for a book cover rather then a magazine cover. While the two are similar, there are differences and it is a major chink in the "very strong" armor.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 01:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, all nice abstract principles that have very little to do with the realities on internet. This image was uploaded on November 10, 2005 -- more than three years ago. Nobody ever made a problem, including Time Magazine, until somebody from our own community starts a campaign for unknown reasons. The license is for a book cover, that should be changed, but the whole fair use rationale has become such an incomprehensible mess that I can understand somebody has made a mistake. - Mafia Expert (talk) 07:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Passes fair use for critical commentary on this specific cover.--Knulclunk (talk) 19:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Nv8200p (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 13:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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• Unused album cover Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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