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Image:George_Cadle_Price.jpg

Image:George_Cadle_Price.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sesel (notify | contribs).

the LOC country studies often contain non-free images . this one is courtesy the Belize govt - just because it was published in the LOC book doesn't mean it's free (that would require that it was taken by an employee of the us govt) Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alternately, we could just tag this non-free and add a fair use rationale (the guy is 89). Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per callio. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:JAKlang.jpg

Image:JAKlang.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by The_Mystery_Man (notify | contribs).

fails WP:NFCC8: it is not necessary to see what the principal looked like to understand the school shooting Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:14, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For what it's worth, the image has been under discussion at MCQ. As I indicated in edit summary, I sought feedback there. I don't know if I can add any more to this conversation, as I don't have a strong idea here (or would not have brought it up there in the first place). But since basically there are now two conversations about the appropriateness of the image, it seemed worth pointing out. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- No good reason for it to be there. Using a copyrighted image without permission needs a pretty high standard, and this doesn't have it. DreamGuy (talk) 12:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete -- Until such time as a proper non-copyrighted photo of Mr Klang appears, it seems especially wrong to have this photo posted at an article about Eric Hainstock, whose photo does not appear in this article.[[]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisconsinator (talk • contribs) 03:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This image shows an image of a deceased individual. The image is of the victim of a notable school shooting and cannot be duplicated or replaced. While it does not need to be so prominently placed and other images associated with the incident should be added, that doesn't mean this image shouldn't remain. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow me to point you to [1] which discusses the famous JonBenet Ramsey photo which was widely distributed, mainly this quote from David Tomlin, Associate General Counsel of The Associated Press:
  The fair use arguments for ignoring ZUMA's [the copyright holder of the JonBenet photo] assertion of rights to control the image are very weak. Fair use can allow an otherwise infringing use of a photo where it is the photo itself -- not what is depicted in the photo -- that is news.
- Our usage of this is not even close to fair use by U.S. standards at all. howcheng {chat} 18:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Stereotype.jpg

Image:Stereotype.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Man with a tan (notify | contribs).

Image has been uploaded to show "someone behaving like a twat" in twat. As this contains images of people easily identifiable, I believe we have a BLP issue here. J Milburn (talk) 14:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know the guy in the photo irl, and I can vouch for him being a "twat". Trust me, he is not going to mind in the slightest, chances are it'll boost his ego being on wp, which is why I am not going to tell him about it. Man with a tan (talk) 15:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also know the gentleman and have good reason to believe that he is no "twat". Indeed, I consider him one of the least twatlike fellows in the entire world. In fact I think you should ban Man with a Tan as a blatent troll and unsavoury character 81.149.250.228 (talk) 16:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Bootytouch.jpg

Image:Bootytouch.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Babyphatonion (notify | contribs).

Orphaned, Unencyclopedic howcheng {chat} 15:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely useless. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Benito_Mussolini.jpg

Image:Benito_Mussolini.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Conte_di_Cavour (notify | contribs).

This is uploaded under PD-Italy, which declares "simple, documentary photographs" to be PD 20 years after publication, but this is clearly an image of a painting and would be under the 70 year pma rule. Besides, the source site says nothing about the creator or the work's creation/publication date. howcheng {chat} 16:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of this image's age. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Hagi.jpg

Image:Hagi.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hadrianos1990 (notify | contribs).

No meta-data, user has uploaded other suspect images, looks very much like these. J Milburn (talk) 17:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete copyvio noted on page. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Stylish_Lalettan.jpg

Image:Stylish_Lalettan.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Appu007 (notify | contribs).

Implausible license. PhilKnight (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Malcolmfraser1.jpg

Image:Malcolmfraser1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Joseph Solis in Australia (notify | contribs).

Copyrighted headshot of a living Australian. Many alternatives are available. Damiens.rf 18:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you show some alternatives? — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure: Image:FraserSorry.jpg, Image:MalcolmFraser1982.JPEG, Image:Fraser1956.jpg, Image:Fraser1966.JPG. --Damiens.rf 11:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:BHaydenBook.jpg

Image:BHaydenBook.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Timeshift9 (notify | contribs).

Why do we need this copyrighted book-cover when the book is not even relevant enough to be mentioned? Damiens.rf 18:57, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - fix the article and add a mention - don't just delete the image. This meets NFCC criteria and is not a photograph of a living Australian anyway. JRG (talk) 02:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does this book really deserves to be commented about, or are you suggestion me to add some commentary just so that we don't need to delete this copyrighted picture? --Damiens.rf 05:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unless the book is notable enough to contain information in the article. A copyrighted image cannot be used as a decorative image. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:SwicksPort.jpg

Image:SwicksPort.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Joseph Solis in Australia (notify | contribs).

Copyrighted picture of a living guy. Damiens.rf 18:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Simply a living person is not what is trying to be captured here, his career is. An image of him as a basketball player cannot be duplicated by a current photo. That said... — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This image is from another encyclopedia and, therefore, directly competes with Wikipedia. As such, the use of this image is inappropriate. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:DischingerChiZp2.jpg

Image:DischingerChiZp2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Joseph Solis in Australia (notify | contribs).

Copyrighted picture of a living guy. Source is a website that I doubt owns any copyright. Damiens.rf 19:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above comments. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Deandrayton.jpg

Image:Deandrayton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Joseph Solis in Australia (notify | contribs).

The guy is alive. Let's take a free picture. Damiens.rf 19:01, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why don't you come to Australia and do it yourself if it's supposedly so easy? JRG (talk) 02:28, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Tickets are not cheap. --Damiens.rf 05:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a recent photo of a living person with nothing that has changed drastically over time (near as I can tell). It is copyrighted and should be removed. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Super 3..jpg

Image:Super 3..jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Patridas (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:LogoTRIUMindex.gif

Image:LogoTRIUMindex.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Yukonadam (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Possibly a non-free logo in reality but still orphaned. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unused & unneeded. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Fairy Andrew.JPG

Image:Fairy Andrew.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Coolify Thy Wall (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Furthermore, this could be an attack image trying to assail someone's sexuality. A silly costume worn at a young age doesn't need to be trapezed around worldwide. — BQZip01 — ^talk 03:59, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:X to the Z XZibeth.JPG

Image:X to the Z XZibeth.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Coolify Thy Wall (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:X1pAdjo0uCo2H3IuTu4h-tNEkvCNt8rsl8lyjZWdJCWAA0Tt2OsNVtD2K7OLZSA6BivoI YuLeO4onjwPoldXpSreIUVAI 4ZG-fsab4u2LeDzTLXjDvaZHqIY6Nz-PizQAsxXl4TVKUQ.jpg

Image:X1pAdjo0uCo2H3IuTu4h-tNEkvCNt8rsl8lyjZWdJCWAA0Tt2OsNVtD2K7OLZSA6BivoI YuLeO4onjwPoldXpSreIUVAI 4ZG-fsab4u2LeDzTLXjDvaZHqIY6Nz-PizQAsxXl4TVKUQ.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Alex10540 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- - Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:X1pPHu2K6HCG6rZbSFEnRL8ifvjZIyIBBNANCbp2fEHa2v3OXYo3n4bvgRTAydLS-Y0tyd29NmiuPSH0pZC3J-NhP0rc6d5 2MqKuSN I4K8WEo2IK-F9tnyA.jpg

Image:X1pPHu2K6HCG6rZbSFEnRL8ifvjZIyIBBNANCbp2fEHa2v3OXYo3n4bvgRTAydLS-Y0tyd29NmiuPSH0pZC3J-NhP0rc6d5 2MqKuSN I4K8WEo2IK-F9tnyA.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Unwicked (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image Ricky81682 (talk) 19:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- - Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:X1pwXtlE9yc32b2syBt4YJPKOyYvxyNtWi 8yn8Hhf9w0qTbrIVqRBPLplsKvfL3DSExkJr9iwqb RcICClB-u5kajVTo3-WsW ip8IJzhZuyYpiz9cbB44KILfx-9uYS9WsMYgHGryn2c.jpg

Image:X1pwXtlE9yc32b2syBt4YJPKOyYvxyNtWi 8yn8Hhf9w0qTbrIVqRBPLplsKvfL3DSExkJr9iwqb RcICClB-u5kajVTo3-WsW ip8IJzhZuyYpiz9cbB44KILfx-9uYS9WsMYgHGryn2c.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by HungryJacks (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- - Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:XSTACY1.jpg

Image:XSTACY1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Acetier (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE advertising. Ricky81682 (talk) 19:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- - Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:02, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:XSXSDWE.jpg

Image:XSXSDWE.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by RTHill1900 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned UE image Ricky81682 (talk) 19:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- - Delete per nom. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: nomination withdrawn. Use of the image has changed and is acceptable. -Nv8200p talk 01:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Alalam-british-soldiers.jpg[edit]

Image:Alalam-british-soldiers.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Berlin2008 (notify | contribs).

Fails WP:NFCC#8 as the image is not significant to the understanding of the article. It is just a screenshot of a news story. Nv8200p talk 20:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete' - image does not helps the reader. ----
Keep This is a very provoking image that conveys far more than words can say. It is a unique event that cannot be replicated. While I agree it is misplaced, it has a place on another article. Moved accordingly. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Given the image does not have a proper fair-use rationale, I think there is no option but to delete. I don't think the image adds hugely to the article - i.e. helps understanding the topic. Rwendland (talk) 09:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I don't see how the image increases the reader's understanding of the topic. --Damiens.rf 14:44, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Wasn't the release of those pictures commented upon at the time, as illustrating a certain propaganda strategy of the Iranian government and all that? The way they were presented and so on? If the article only had a bit of sourced commentary on these things, I think the image would well be justifiable. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in the current article. I thought this an obvious delete but saw the sourced text Some sections of the British press reacted angrily to the Iranian television footage of the detainees, particularly the prominence of servicewoman Faye Turney, and that she was seen wearing a head scarf.[57] According to Iranian laws, all females above the age of 13 are required to observe the Islamic dress code of Iran.[58] in the article. Without the image this text has far less impact and without the text the image is meaningless - added to my understanding (as I ignored this when it was happening) and seems to meet NFCC#8...happy to add a proper rationale if this is kept- Peripitus (Talk) 12:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Right, makes sense. The image should be moved to a place where it can easily be related to that text passage, and perhaps the text and caption could be expanded a bit. I'd be happy to see it kept if used that way. Fut.Perf. ☼ 18:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Image:Auc-sign.jpg

Image:Auc-sign.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Me-123567-Me (notify | contribs).

The tag states that the copyright owner allows free use with attribution. However, the owner's terms of use cited on the image description page make clear that the image can only be used in relation to articles on the university, cannot be modified in any way (except for resizing and cropping), and copies of all written articles using the image must be sent to the University's Communications Officer. The image would also not qualify under fair use, given that the Athabasca University article does contain some free images and free images can presumably be obtained. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's a free image. Free to use, even commercially, on articles about the University. That's free. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Photo's as Skeezix1000 describes, are hard to get. The University is in a rural area, an hour and a half from Edmonton. There aren't any students there. The free photo's I did obtain were from Flickr, and there were only a few. I got lucky that he person was willing to release them under a free license. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It is not a free image. Most importantly, for an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit derivative works, which this one does not. As for potential fair use, the image does not meet WP:NFCC criterion 1, as we already free alternatives in the article and others could be created (we have images from rural locations across Canada -- it's not clear why this particular town is any different than elsewhere). Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a clear-cut case. The author does not allow derivative works; this image is non-free and replaceable. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-free and replaceable. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:15, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:AU Flags.jpg

Image:AU Flags.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Me-123567-Me (notify | contribs).

The tag states that the copyright owner allows free use with attribution. However, the owner's terms of use cited on the image description page make clear that the image can only be used in relation to articles on the university, cannot be modified in any way (except for resizing and cropping), and copies of all written articles using the image must be sent to the University's Communications Officer. The image would also not qualify under fair use, given that the Athabasca University article does contain some free images and free images can presumably be obtained. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's a free image. Free to use, even commercially, on articles about the University. That's free. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Photo's as Skeezix1000 describes, are hard to get. The University is in a rural area, an hour and a half from Edmonton. There aren't any students there. The free photo's I did obtain were from Flickr, and there were only a few. I got lucky that he person was willing to release them under a free license. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It is not a free image. Most importantly, for an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit derivative works, which this one does not. As for potential fair use, the image does not meet WP:NFCC criterion 1, as we already free alternatives in the article and others could be created (we have images from rural locations across Canada -- it's not clear why this particular town is any different than elsewhere). Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:11, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete replaceable. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Calgary learning centre.jpg

Image:Calgary learning centre.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Me-123567-Me (notify | contribs).

The tag states that the copyright owner allows free use with attribution. However, the owner's terms of use cited on the image description page make clear that the image can only be used in relation to articles on the university, cannot be modified in any way (except for resizing and cropping), and copies of all written articles using the image must be sent to the University's Communications Officer. The image would also not qualify under fair use, given that the Athabasca University article does contain some free images and free images can presumably be obtained. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's a free image. Free to use, even commercially, on articles about the University. That's free. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Photo's as Skeezix1000 describes, are hard to get. The University is in a rural area, an hour and a half from Edmonton. There aren't any students there. The free photo's I did obtain were from Flickr, and there were only a few. I got lucky that he person was willing to release them under a free license. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It is not a free image. Most importantly, for an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit derivative works, which this one does not. As for potential fair use, the image does not meet WP:NFCC criterion 1, as an alternative free image could be created. The subject of this image is a building located in one of Canada's largest cities, not some isolated place on the Arctic tundra. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Replaceable. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The result of the debate was:

- Delete - The image is not free and does not meet wikipedia's fair use critera...easily reproduceable - Peripitus (Talk) 06:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Edmonton learning centre.jpg[edit]

Image:Edmonton learning centre.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Me-123567-Me (notify | contribs).

The tag states that the copyright owner allows free use with attribution. However, the owner's terms of use cited on the image description page make clear that the image can only be used in relation to articles on the university, cannot be modified in any way (except for resizing and cropping), and copies of all written articles using the image must be sent to the University's Communications Officer. The image would also not qualify under fair use, given that the Athabasca University article does contain some free images and free images can presumably be obtained. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It's a free image. Free to use, even commercially, on articles about the University. That's free. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Photo's as Skeezix1000 describes, are hard to get. The University is in a rural area, an hour and a half from Edmonton. There aren't any students there. The free photo's I did obtain were from Flickr, and there were only a few. I got lucky that he person was willing to release them under a free license. Me-123567-Me (talk) 22:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It is not a free image. Most importantly, for an image to be considered "free" under Wikipedia's Image use policy, the license must permit derivative works, which this one does not. As for potential fair use, the image does not meet WP:NFCC criterion 1, as an alternative free image could be created. The subject of this image is a building located in one of Canada's largest cities, not some isolated place on the Arctic tundra. Skeezix1000 (talk) 12:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, obvious case. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Replaceable image. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]