The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 15:21, 12 September 2015 [1].

Kalidas (film)[edit]

Nominator(s): Kailash29792 (talk) 12:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Tamil cinema's first sound film, which also happens to be the first sound film in South India. After it successfully passed its GA nomination (nominated by me) and went through many copyedits, especially by GOCE veteran Bafflegab, it should be fine for FAC. Kailash29792 (talk) 12:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Pavanjandhyala[edit]

I checked, they actually work in my server. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
They are showing accesing issues. I hope you can rectify them. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC) DESiegel at Teahouse called it a side effect of the Wayback Machine. Thus, i find it not a concern as the links are working. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Unlinked. Actually, it was Bafflegab who added it, and I thought an article could be created on it. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Instead written that Kalidas was his second film following Alam Ara. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Like how? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Like this. "Kalidas was the only Tamil film to be produced and released.......before the National Film Archive of India was established in 1964" should be the first paragraph. "Kalidas became a trendsetter for sound films in Tamil cinema.......the end should be the second paragraph. This is because, we have to mention about the film first and its influence on others later. That ensures a better flow for the readers. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 08:11, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I expect the nominator to either rectify them or give an explanation regarding them here if required within a reasonable period of time. Yours sincerely, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I found no other issues from my perspective in the meantime. Thus, i lend my support. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 12:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ssven2[edit]

Written as asked. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Written as asked. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Randor Guy. Written that. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's all from me. I lend my support. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 07:37, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Edwininlondon[edit]

Resolved comments from Edwininlondon
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  • "₹75000 (US$1,200) against a budget of ₹8000 (US$120)" — Is that US$120 correct? Doesn't match up with the first number.
I think you know of two things called "exchange rate" and "inflation". And I have used the INRConvert template, but I am unsure if the template has produced an accurate result. Is there any source that lists the history of Indian exchange rates? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing that complicated: if ₹75000 (US$1,200) is correct then the second one should be US$128. Edwininlondon (talk) 07:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are a few semicolons that are unnecessary. "while Rajalakshmi spoke in .." and "Rajalakshmi's singing performance .." are both better as their own sentence.
  • The cast section is incomplete. Move some cast info from the Production section into here. That is, more actors and also the extra info per cast member.
The other actors appear in seemingly minor roles, and I can't find information about their roles in the film. Can I just say "Other roles were played by ...." and add a source at the end? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that would be better.Edwininlondon (talk) 07:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Legacy — Is there anything that can be said about other multi-lingual films?
I'll look into this. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • No songbook survived, yet we see an illustration and a still. I think this warrants an explanation. It is so fantastic to have these 2 illustrations. Can you satisfy the curious mind? Edwininlondon (talk) 21:04, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the remaining images of the film appear in the 2011 book The Best of Tamil Cinema. Can I mention this? Kailash29792 (talk) 04:55, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, something like "The only remaining artefacts are a few stills and an image of the cover of the songbook" Edwininlondon (talk) 07:18, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed the amount based on a new source. Kailash29792 (talk) 19:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done as you asked. Kailash29792 (talk) 19:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FrB.TG[edit]

Resolved comments from Frankie
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  • "features P. G. Venkatesan as the titular character" → "features P. G. Venkatesan in the titular character".
Will "in the titular role" do? "In the titular character" sounds grammatically incorrect. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"In the titular role" I meant. In fact, how about "in the title role" or "eponymous role"?
Done. Written "title role". Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, why is it "it features"? As it's a lost film, you should use past form.
I did, but some senior editor changed it. I'll rewrite. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Written "featured". Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • We don't start a paragraph with "The film"; mention the film's name.
I will do make changes as so. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't see the need of space between ₹ and 75000. Likewise for 8000.
Will remove the space. Should I include something like "₹75000 (valued at about X US dollars in 1931)" in the lead? Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Removed spaces, and added their US dollar value. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "including Tamil (Vidhyadhari), Telugu" – link Telugu (in the production section) since you have linked Tamil and Hindi in that section.
Will do so. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again, I think, you should start section music with the film's name, not with "the film".
Will do. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These are all minor concerns. I think this is an article written very nicely. -- Frankie talk 08:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support from RO[edit]

Lead
I'd drop "It is most notable", as it's kinds self-explanatory.
Changed it to simply "it is noted". — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:26, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Plot
Although one can figure this out by the context, I was unfamiliar with the term "cowherd". Is there a good Wikilink we could use here?
@Rationalobserver: Linked it to Cowman (profession) if that's alright. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cast
Done — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Production
I'd copyedit so we aren't using "according to" twice in this part.
Done Changed the first "according to" to "as per" if that's alright. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Copyedit/paraphrase this to avoid this one-word quote.
Done — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:28, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Music
I recently had to break this habit, but I think it would be nice to remove as many of these "according to"s as you can.
Done — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is an especially well-written article, and I only found a few very minor quibbles, which I've listed above. I'm happy to support on the prose, which is quite enjoyable and well presented. Nicely done. Keep up the great work! RO(talk) 15:57, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note: Has there been a source review? If not, please request at Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. --Laser brain (talk) 01:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image review[edit]

An image is an image, and it should comply with the laws. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that would depend on the jurisdiction, whether there is freedom of panorama in India or not (there isn't[2]). But I assume the text is covered under "other works", so I guess it is alright. FunkMonk (talk) 17:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Source review[edit]

Reading though now....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:03, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some articles just don't have credited authors and are published anonymously, like the following:
  • this (which reads Express News Service, should I add it though?)
  • this
  • this
  • this (although the agency is United News of India, which I have already written)
  • this. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:30, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that happens. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:01, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise look ok. I will do some spot checking shortly. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, going by this version of the page to ensure correlation of soruces.

Earwig's has one issue but I think it is the WP text exported that is coming up as a false positive.

So spot checking looking ok. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:50, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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