Paul Horner – Relist at AfD. Ugh, this is a mess. Had somebody not gone ahead and made the WP:BOLD move to recreate this article while this DRV was running, I would have probably closed this as endorse. But,that's where we are now, and it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. The most logical way forward is to just bring this to AfD again, so we can get a clean read on the article, without trying to dis-entanble arguments about process from arguments about the article itself. – -- RoySmith (talk) 02:05, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Paul Horner (talk`\|`edit`\|`history`\|`logs`\|`links`\|`watch) (XfD`\|`restore) (Posting here first since this was a non-admin close for merge) This BLP was merged into National Report in 2014. Since then, this person has received more press coverage. For example, his work during the recent election is getting widespread media attention now.[1] -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 19:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply] Allow recreation but in draft space or user space if you are feeling cautious. At first I was tempted to say to expand his section in National Report but I see that some significant aspects of his life would not be appropriate there. Thincat (talk) 08:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply] Oppose userfication or draftification. To justify a spinout, there needs to be at least than wp:stub-worthy material present in the parent article, National Report. Which there currently is not. A draft or userspace verion would amount to content forking. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply] During this DRV the article has been spun out again by third parties and most of the current article relates to the time after Horner had left National Report - that is if we can believe anything (which we probably can not). Thincat (talk) 12:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply] Not a DRV question based on the information given. Endorse the November 2014 AfD. To reverse that decision, seek consensus for the spinout on the talk page of the merge target. Bold spinouts, and bold reverse merges are not to be encouraged, they make the attribution history really messy, and other reasons. Discussion at the merge target talk page is important because that is where the broad expertise is expected to be watching. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Paul Horner – Relist at AfD. Ugh, this is a mess. Had somebody not gone ahead and made the WP:BOLD move to recreate this article while this DRV was running, I would have probably closed this as endorse. But,that's where we are now, and it's hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. The most logical way forward is to just bring this to AfD again, so we can get a clean read on the article, without trying to dis-entanble arguments about process from arguments about the article itself. – -- RoySmith (talk) 02:05, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

(Posting here first since this was a non-admin close for merge) This BLP was merged into National Report in 2014. Since then, this person has received more press coverage. For example, his work during the recent election is getting widespread media attention now.[1] -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 19:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Allow recreation but in draft space or user space if you are feeling cautious. At first I was tempted to say to expand his section in National Report but I see that some significant aspects of his life would not be appropriate there. Thincat (talk) 08:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose userfication or draftification. To justify a spinout, there needs to be at least than wp:stub-worthy material present in the parent article, National Report. Which there currently is not. A draft or userspace verion would amount to content forking. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

During this DRV the article has been spun out again by third parties and most of the current article relates to the time after Horner had left National Report - that is if we can believe anything (which we probably can not). Thincat (talk) 12:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a DRV question based on the information given. Endorse the November 2014 AfD. To reverse that decision, seek consensus for the spinout on the talk page of the merge target. Bold spinouts, and bold reverse merges are not to be encouraged, they make the attribution history really messy, and other reasons. Discussion at the merge target talk page is important because that is where the broad expertise is expected to be watching. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.