CybrHome (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

Reason for undeletion was discussed on RHaworth talk page to which RHaworth has agreed. See here. Created undeletion request since the admin suggested me to post on DRV before restoration of page. Kindly restore the page as I want to read and update it.106.51.129.187 (talk) 20:08, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• I recommend that people wanting to create articles WP:Register. Apart from benefits to the person, it greatly aids communication between the community and the person. This applies especially for authors of articles on topics that can be perceived as promotional. Note that CybrHome will need to meet the higher-than-normal standard explained at WP:CORP. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:59, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• SmokeyJoe To add some facts, the article was already there for few months with citations and full factual content, nothing was promotional. Several editors had worked on building the page. It was mistakenly deleted by an admin as this article is about a global website but operated by an Asian company (and was relatively new on wiki, few months old) and the admin was perhaps an European, so there was confusion around notability issues may be. Also the site is popular among entrepreneurs and developers and not so much among common users. Think of it like the Product Hunt for websites. I think it already meets notability standards, I have seen WPCORP. So yes I also agree with 106.51.129.187 that this page should be restored. Thanks! DataManiac (talk) 14:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• This was not "mistakenly deleted", and far from "nothing was promotional", though I'd have been more likely to delete as an A7 than a G11 (at least, if none of the reference bombing turned out to be from a reliable source - none of the links I spot-checked were). Endorse. —Cryptic 15:09, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Endorse reasoning given is either false ("mistakenly deleted"[nope.]) or nonsensical ("the admin was perhaps an European"[WTF?]). No valid reasoning given to overturn. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 00:50, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Endorse per User:Cryptic and Andrew, no sign that the nominator or the supporter appreciate the issues of promotional content. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• List Sorry if there was some confusion but what I meant by 'mistakenly deleted' was that the admin suspected notability issues and promotional content because it was about a product and not a very old article. Given that new products, companies and people and always primary suspects on promotional content, spam etc. the admin deleted it assuming destructive changes to wiki like promotion, spam or lack of notability. I do not mean he accidentally hit the delete button, but as he mentioned during my discussion with him, he admitted deletion was a bit borderline and agreed to restore. By European, I am not highlighting regionalism or anything if you just assumed that. What I meant was since the admin is from UK, he is not in touch with the regions where this product is primarily used or media where this product was published - viz. India, Silicon valley etc. or the citations (since most of them were Indian national but not European/UK). Kindly take things positively here and please do not use foul language. Thanks for your replies. I'd like to work more on the article add more about notability and more citations. Please restore and let me work. I feel the article was proper, sane and helpful for Wikipedia community. You can also check CybrHome's official website or feel free to google it and research more about it. Thanks everyone. DataManiac (talk) 11:57, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Said the Sky (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

Said the Sky was deleted because of the reason stated by the nominator; "Notability unable to be established". However, that was one month ago. This musician is now notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia. This article has now met the criteria for musicians and ensembles (#2); "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart". This musician has a song charted on two Billboard (US) charts; "Dance/Electronic Digital Songs"^[1] and "Hot Dance/Electronic Songs"^[2]. As per WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS, the mentioned charts are acceptable. Apparently the closing admin is "on vacation"^[3] and I have posted on their talk page but I came here because I think they won't respond anytime soon. - TheMagnificentist (talk) 12:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of any significant coverage in reliable sources? If so, could you list the 3 or 4 best sources you know of? Hobit (talk) 03:24, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a list^[4]. - TheMagnificentist (talk) 05:38, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The first two aren't significant coverage (just membership on a list). The 3rd is A) not a reliable source and B) not clear how it's relevant. The 4th is a list of coverage, but a quick spot check turns up no significant coverage in a reliable source. Hobit (talk) 06:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here's two recent ones^[5][6]/ and another one^[7], significant coverage + reliable sources (for electronic music). - TheMagnificentist (talk) 07:22, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak endorse I'm not inclined to say that showing up on the lower reaches of the Digital Dance Songs or similar minor charts is enough to make one a notable musician by itself. It's certainly a start though, and perhaps we'll be able to get this one restored at some point. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• don't overturn While the subject may meet a SNG, no significant coverage in a reliable source has been found, so WP:N isn't close to being met, which is required by the SNG (criteria for musicians and ensembles). Hobit (talk) 06:49, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Endorse. See User:JzG/And the band played on.... Guy (Help!) 00:25, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Userfy I was the admin who deleted it. I was away so I missed the request on my talk page. My suggestion, and what I would have done if I had been here, is to userfy the article to TheMagnificentist so they can improve the article and add their new information. When they have it in what they believe to be notable condition, I will solicit advice about whether it is likely to be retained this time. (The comments here about the new sources are not encouraging.) If the revised article is significantly different from the deleted version, and appears to have a better shot at notability, it could be moved to mainspace for a new evaluation. --MelanieN (talk) 18:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: That'll be great. I'm okay with that. - TheMagnificentist (talk) 18:44, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since no one has objected, I will go ahead and userfy the article and consider this request closed. --MelanieN (talk) 15:54, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Swift (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (restore)

This title has been salted after multiple speedy deletions and the involvment last year of multiple paid editors. I would like it unprotected to allow the creation of an article. I have no connection to the previous attempts and I have created a draft at Draft:Emma Swift. Subject is a ARIA Award nominee, satisfying WP:MUSICBIO#8. Last deleting admin is retired so I have come here. Thanks. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:30, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ping HJ Mitchell. Thincat (talk) 09:50, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Allow re-creation. Duffbeerforme is a music expert, ARIA Awards are significant, and the reasoning is sound. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:05, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• allow re-creation I'm not certain this would pass at AfD, but it's a new article, written by an established editor, that has some sourcing and appears to meet a SNG. No objections to a listing at AfD, but the reasons for salting don't apply here, so it should be allowed. Hobit (talk) 03:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Looks ok to me. User:HJ Mitchell has not been online much lately so I will go ahead and unsalt it; I don't think he would object. --MelanieN (talk) 16:48, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • No objection. This was well over a year ago and I don't remember the incident (it was probably an RfPP request) so there's no need to defer to me. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]