Ashfaque Hussain Memon – Deletion endorsed – Sandstein 08:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Ashfaque Hussain Memon (talk`\|`edit`\|`history`\|`logs`\|`links`\|`watch) (XfD`\|`restore) Ashfaque Hussain Memon has been a key figure to ending the CMCH Hospital medical workforce strikes that have persisted over the last year. He was swiftly appointed after the dismissal of previous MS to Larkana (Dr. Siyal) (Coverage by all major newspapers in Pakistan). His work interests and benefits many people in the district.— Preceding unsigned comment added by AbeerAfghan (talk • contribs) Comment from what I've seen and what you've said this sounds like someone doing their job and got appointed to a certain post during a dispute about his predecessor. I can't see how that makes this person themself notable, the dispute perhaps (though that seems more like a new story than encyclopedic entry). i.e. it's not about who was appointed, merely that someone was whoever that was would have received the same sort of coverage --62.254.139.60 (talk) 19:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] The nomination appears to be accurate, in that there really does seem to be coverage in several major Pakistani newspapers. I think this coverage is really about Chandka Medical College rather than about Ashfaque Hussain Memon, though. I have no objection to coverage of the incident being added to Chandka Medical College. Dr Memon's name should probably redirect there.—S Marshall T/C 19:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] Endorse, but . . . Article was speedied as promotional, and no reason is given to indicate this was inappropriate. Because this deletion did not result from the then-pending AFD, nothing prevents the creation of a properly sourced, nonpromotional article if notability standards can be satisfied. Therefore, this isn't a DRV matter. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] (edit conflict) Endorse The deletion was for being "blatantly promotional". As there is no objection here that the article was not blatantly promotional, the deletion stands uncontested. Nominator is advised to initiate a discussion with the deleting admin before opening a discussion here. Unscintillating (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 17:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply] Endorse, G11 was the right call to make for this version of the article. However, if the comments by the nominator above are accurate, that is no impediment to writing an article on this person that is not just blatant promotion. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 04:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC).[reply] Endorse the deletion as promotional--it would take a complete rewriting to make an acceptable article. But just go ahead and do it--it may or may not be notable, but it won't be a speedy A67 for no indication of importance. (A year or two ago, I might not have thought this so promotional as to be a speedy; but we are now getting so many articles of this sort, that I am much more likely to call a promotional article for a subject of borderline notability a speedy G11, not worth the necessary rewriting--and, judging by what happens at CSD, other admins seem pretty much agreed on this also. Our proper defense against promotionalism is to enforce higher standards.) DGG ( talk ) 04:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

Ashfaque Hussain Memon – Deletion endorsed – Sandstein 08:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

Ashfaque Hussain Memon has been a key figure to ending the CMCH Hospital medical workforce strikes that have persisted over the last year. He was swiftly appointed after the dismissal of previous MS to Larkana (Dr. Siyal) (Coverage by all major newspapers in Pakistan). His work interests and benefits many people in the district.— Preceding unsigned comment added by AbeerAfghan (talk • contribs)

Comment from what I've seen and what you've said this sounds like someone doing their job and got appointed to a certain post during a dispute about his predecessor. I can't see how that makes this person themself notable, the dispute perhaps (though that seems more like a new story than encyclopedic entry). i.e. it's not about who was appointed, merely that someone was whoever that was would have received the same sort of coverage --62.254.139.60 (talk) 19:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination appears to be accurate, in that there really does seem to be coverage in several major Pakistani newspapers. I think this coverage is really about Chandka Medical College rather than about Ashfaque Hussain Memon, though. I have no objection to coverage of the incident being added to Chandka Medical College. Dr Memon's name should probably redirect there.—S Marshall T/C 19:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse, but . . . Article was speedied as promotional, and no reason is given to indicate this was inappropriate. Because this deletion did not result from the then-pending AFD, nothing prevents the creation of a properly sourced, nonpromotional article if notability standards can be satisfied. Therefore, this isn't a DRV matter. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 15:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Endorse The deletion was for being "blatantly promotional". As there is no objection here that the article was not blatantly promotional, the deletion stands uncontested. Nominator is advised to initiate a discussion with the deleting admin before opening a discussion here. Unscintillating (talk) 15:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 17:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Endorse, G11 was the right call to make for this version of the article. However, if the comments by the nominator above are accurate, that is no impediment to writing an article on this person that is not just blatant promotion. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 04:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC).[reply]
Endorse the deletion as promotional--it would take a complete rewriting to make an acceptable article. But just go ahead and do it--it may or may not be notable, but it won't be a speedy A67 for no indication of importance. (A year or two ago, I might not have thought this so promotional as to be a speedy; but we are now getting so many articles of this sort, that I am much more likely to call a promotional article for a subject of borderline notability a speedy G11, not worth the necessary rewriting--and, judging by what happens at CSD, other admins seem pretty much agreed on this also. Our proper defense against promotionalism is to enforce higher standards.) DGG ( talk ) 04:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

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