Greenbrier Mall – Restored by User:HJ Mitchell. – Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.
Greenbrier Mall (talk`\|`edit`\|`history`\|`logs`\|`links`\|`watch) (restore) Request for temporary undeletion to add references was denied on Jan 27, 2011 because the sources were not "substantial" . However, only a few examples were listed and didn't want to linkspam every single source. The mall is even listed in the Official Tourism Website of the Commonwealth of Virginia as serving multiple cities and regions in more than one state in the USA, which makes it notable. Please reconsider temporarily undeleting to allow for references to be added. Thanks.Andy.hyc (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] You just want this userified, then? Jclemens (talk) 05:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] sounds good. cheers. Andy.hyc (talk) 15:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] Restore. The article was deleted as an uncontested PROD so it should be restored upon request unless the admin reviewing it has a damn good reason why it should stay deleted such as it being a copyvio (or other CSD criteria) or there being BLP issues. There's been an unfortunate trend at WP:REFUND lately to decline requests to restore articles deleted by PROD with rationales that belong in AFD. I agree that most of these are unlikely to survive an AFD but they still need to go there so that the community can make the call and those advocating keeping the articles can at least have their say. This is not "process wonkery", it's fairness. We shouldn't be telling new users that if their articles are deleted by PROD that they can be restored upon request but then slam the door in their face when they do so. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] Restore as userfied per Andy.hyc's request. I would have just gone ahead and done this myself per Ron Ritzman, but I couldn't find anything in WP:PROD that specifically states that articles deleted under PROD are automatically entitled to be restored upon request (I used to think that was the case, but I couldn't confirm it). Furthermore, the standards of notability for shopping centers are surprisingly high, so I just want to make sure that the page is going to be worked on in userspace before it is moved back into the mainspace. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply] The authority for restoring deleted PRODs is WP:DEL#Proposed deletion: "Even after the page is deleted, any editor can have the page restored by any administrator simply by asking." I agree that WP:PROD could be clearer, though it does say in para 3 at the top "It may be undeleted upon request", with a link to REFUND. JohnCD (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.

Greenbrier Mall – Restored by User:HJ Mitchell. – Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

Request for temporary undeletion to add references was denied on Jan 27, 2011 because the sources were not "substantial" . However, only a few examples were listed and didn't want to linkspam every single source. The mall is even listed in the Official Tourism Website of the Commonwealth of Virginia as serving multiple cities and regions in more than one state in the USA, which makes it notable. Please reconsider temporarily undeleting to allow for references to be added. Thanks.Andy.hyc (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You just want this userified, then? Jclemens (talk) 05:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

sounds good. cheers. Andy.hyc (talk) 15:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Restore. The article was deleted as an uncontested PROD so it should be restored upon request unless the admin reviewing it has a damn good reason why it should stay deleted such as it being a copyvio (or other CSD criteria) or there being BLP issues. There's been an unfortunate trend at WP:REFUND lately to decline requests to restore articles deleted by PROD with rationales that belong in AFD. I agree that most of these are unlikely to survive an AFD but they still need to go there so that the community can make the call and those advocating keeping the articles can at least have their say. This is not "process wonkery", it's fairness. We shouldn't be telling new users that if their articles are deleted by PROD that they can be restored upon request but then slam the door in their face when they do so. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 15:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Restore as userfied per Andy.hyc's request. I would have just gone ahead and done this myself per Ron Ritzman, but I couldn't find anything in WP:PROD that specifically states that articles deleted under PROD are automatically entitled to be restored upon request (I used to think that was the case, but I couldn't confirm it). Furthermore, the standards of notability for shopping centers are surprisingly high, so I just want to make sure that the page is going to be worked on in userspace before it is moved back into the mainspace. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The authority for restoring deleted PRODs is WP:DEL#Proposed deletion: "Even after the page is deleted, any editor can have the page restored by any administrator simply by asking." I agree that WP:PROD could be clearer, though it does say in para 3 at the top "It may be undeleted upon request", with a link to REFUND. JohnCD (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.