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Applying the G4 Criterion for speedy deletion was improper in this case because this entry was substantially different and addressed the concerns cited in the original deletion decision. An older version of the article, which I did not write, was deleted in 2009, apparently due to objections over its lack of supporting references or notability and some vague objections to its tone. On October 28 I posted another Article under the title Goldsea. It was written painstakingly to avoid tonal controversies. It contained 31 references that supported every one of the material statements int he article. was improved upon by several others as well as myself. Today, it was deleted without warning on the ground that that the original had been deleted following discussion. In short, there was no opportunity for anyone to review the deletion decision on what is essentially a completely different article. This is particularly troubling in light of the thousands of Wikipedia articles are stubs that are not supported at all by outside references and are not written with nearly as much care, skill and useful information. For example, even within the category of Asian American Media, articles like Asianave, Asianweek, Little India, Koream Journal, Asianave fall far short of the standards used in writing the Goldsea entry. Given that Goldsea is the longest running professionally written Asian American website, and given that it was founded by the publisher of the first national magazine for Asian Americans, I believe it easily meets the notability criterion. Therefore, I believe the article merits review by some objective editors who have not been involved in this process. And if the deletion decision stands, it should be supported not only by clear rationale, but some clear standard as to in what form it can be resurrected. AA Patrol (talk) 22:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC) AA Patrol (talk) 22:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
First, I'd like to thank the editors DGG and S Marshall for taking the time to address this in a way that suggests that there are fair-minded, caring minds behind Wikipedia's policies. I was feeling a bit beleagured by the swiftness with which my efforts had been rendered meaningless. I have to admit that there are no readily available major news stories about Goldsea, which is why I used the NY Times and LA times articles to lay the historical foundation about Kagy and his groundbreaking magazines, then linked his mission to the Goldsea site via the Goldsea 4-Part piece on Asian American Media History. I felt that Kagy's notability as a publisher, combined with the sheer number of cites that Goldsea has garnered on Wikipedia itself, not to mention other media stories, was sufficient to establish notability. However, I will try to come up with some mentions of Goldsea's Most Inspiring Asian Americans in articles of reputable news media like the ones cited by DGG. AA Patrol (talk) 00:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Article on H Mart Shopping Center: "In an article on Asian shopping centers, the Asian-American online newspaper GoldSea.com said H Mart is "the place you take non-Asian friends when you want to impress them with just how modern and sophisticated Asians are."" http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/03/06/large_korean_grocery_coming/ Article on Branson Country Music Performer Shoji Tabuchi: "Tabuchi's unusual-for-country-music ethnicity, he felt, actually worked to his advantage. "Say person A and person B play just as good," he told an interviewer from the Goldsea Asian American Profiles website. "Who stands out, me or him?"" http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3443600070.html Article on Hong Kong Pop Star Leehom Wang: "For this occasion, World Vision Taiwan recently invited acclaimed singer Wang Leehom — one of the most inspiring Asian Americans of all time according to the Goldsea Asian American Daily, and a longtime ambassador for the charity — to visit the Republic of Sierra Leone in West Africa and witness the improvement Taiwan's help had brought to people's livelihoods there." http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/int%27l--community/2009/06/07/211236/Wang-Leehom.htm Article on Hong Kong Pop Star Leehom Wang: "Wang Leehom was one of the first torchbearers for the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics, and performed in the Olympics' closing ceremony in Beijing. Wang Leehom was listed among "The 100 Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time" by Goldsea Asian American Daily." http://www.suzhou-expat.com/news-mainmenu-87/272-2010-music-man-tour-in-changshu.html Article on Actor B.D. Wong: "Awards: “100 Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time” Goldsea Asian American Daily; 2003", http://www.asianweek.com/2009/05/06/chinese-american-hero-bradley-darryl-wong/ I am having trouble saving all the entries. It keeps cutting me off. I will try adding the rest in a separate save. AA Patrol (talk) 03:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Without burdening this page too much more, here are a few more examples of Goldsea being cited by other media: Goldsea listed as one of the expert multicultural media resources. http://multiculturalmarketingresources.com/expertsshowcase.html Article on Asian American Women in Business: "The Goldsea site is devoted to inspiring stories of attaining your dreams and ways to protect your business, and lists influential people as well as Asian heroes." http://www.asianamericanalliance.com/Asian-Women-in-the-Business-World.html Article on Silicon Valley Businesses: "America's 100 Top Asian Entrepreneurs The GoldSea 100 annually honors the most successful Asian American entrepreneurs. It now includes six billionaires, including a 32-year-old who also happens to be the youngest entrepreneur ever to make the top 10." http://entrepreneurs.about.com/od/famousentrepreneur/ Article on an Advertising Campaign by Ford: "To reach China, Korea and Vietnam, Ford is also buying ad takeovers of sina.com and goldsea.com and has purchased air time on Asian TV networks." http://www.adotas.com/2006/12/ford-unleashing-major-cross-media-ad-blitz/ Listing of Asian American Media "Goldsea: Asian American Supersite Large full-featured magazine. See especially Media Watch: Monitoring Asian progress in American mass media" http://www.uiowa.edu/~commstud/resources/GenderMedia/asian.html Discussion on a Japan Today Magazine site Forum: "I don't think it really matters how the world spells it as most of them are now used to Korea. However, if the country does change it officially to Corea, I think the world would follow. Some links: www.geocities.com/neue_strassenbahn/corea.html www.medeasin.com/coreaspelling.htm goldsea.com/Air/Issues/Corea/corea.html" http://forum.japantoday.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=907175 AA Patrol (talk) 03:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
This letter is intended to request the undeletion of the Buddy Society Wikipedia page. The page existed for several months documenting the Los Angeles based fashion label. On October 16th, 2010 new information was added to the page regarding the history of shows hosted by Buddy Society. This resulted in an immediate deletion. Prior to this addition, the page had been approved by an editor and was a part of Wikipedia. The request for undeletion is an effort towards the return of Buddy Society's Wikipedia page in it's former state, prior to the addition of new information that was considered to violate Wikipedia's regulations. The editor that deleted the page was contacted in search for a resolution for this issue. S/he declared that the original page contained adjectives that did not adhere to the the site's neutral point of view policy. These adjectives are not necessary to provide factual information on Buddy Society and can be omitted from the page without changing the content. The purpose of the page is to document information about the label that has been published in other sources, and the intention was never one of advertisement. Another reason the editor used for deletion was that the article linked to various pages documenting other artists. These links existed because they were previously requested by another editor who found the links necessary for the Buddy Society page to exist. These links, as well as the above mentioned adjectives, may or may not be a part of Buddy Society's page without affecting the information provided by it. Please review this deletion and provide any information you may have on how Buddy Society can be a part of Wikipedia once more. Thank you! Crystalroseluv (talk) 21:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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This my second time putting this article through deletion review, the last time dating back to September. Since then, I have found a number of magazine publications and added them in my userpsace for subject: User:QuasyBoy/Alexis Fields. Here are the following links: [2] [3] [4]. Proving that her acting career has received some coverage. If this fails notability, I truly give up on trying to have this subject overturned. QuasyBoy 21:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |