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Ryerson University

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge all. Sockpuppetry notwithstanding, the consensus and the convention is to merge/rename after a school changes its name. bibliomaniac15 01:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The university has recently changed its name. This is the fifth name the university has had in its history (Ryerson Institute of Technology (1948–1966). Ryerson Polytechnical Institute (1966–1993), Ryerson Polytechnic University (1993–2001), Ryerson University (2001-2022), and now Toronto Metropolitan University) and there are not separate categories for each of the previous names (eg the principal of the Ryerson Institute of Technology is in the cat Category:Presidents of Ryerson University as are the presidents of Ryerson Polytechnical Institute and Ryerson Polytechnic University). See CTV News:Ryerson University announces its new name. Horatio Bumblebee (talk) 13:41, 5 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Response It's literally the same institution and TMU is reissuing diplomas to alumni with the new name. Also, for your point to be valid then you have to put those alumni into four separate categories as the institution wasn't called "Ryerson University" at the time each of them graduated so if "Category:Toronto Metropolitan University alumni" is wrong so is "Category:Ryerson University alumni". Some graduated from Ryerson Institute of Technology, others from Ryerson Polytechnical Institute or Ryerson Polytechnic University. Since in fact they are in a catch-all category with the institution's second most recent name there's no problem with renaming the catch-all to the current name. Horatio Bumblebee (talk) 10:40, 10 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What matters here is the indisputable fact that they graduated from the same institution, not whether it did or didn't have the same name at the time as it has now. (As noted by others, for example, we do not have separate categories to segregate the people who attended it in the "Ryerson University" era from the people who attended it in the "Ryerson Institute of Technology" era or the "Ryerson Polytechnical" era, and this is not a different situation in any sense.) And furthermore, since Ryerson-era grads are being offered the opportunity to have their diplomas reissued with the TMU name on them instead of the Ryerson name, it isn't even unequivocally clear that there's an important distinction to be upheld in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 16:23, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 01:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The categories have now been tagged (by Marcocapelle).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 21:05, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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American businesspeople by ethnicity

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The result of the discussion was: manual soft merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:44, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge/delete, trivial intersections between ethnicity/descent and occupation, see also WP:EGRS. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 20:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


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Category:Songs in memory of Elvis Presley

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:45, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT Only three members, two of which are also in the target category. It seems an artificial distinction whether a song was written before or after a person's demise, there is no benefit having 2 separate categories. Richhoncho (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Category:Songs about snakes

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The result of the discussion was: Upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one entry which is verified to be about a snake. Delete per WP:SMALLCAT Richhoncho (talk) 12:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Category:Songs about Minecraft

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 08:48, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category contains 4 redirects and the article Music of Minecraft, which not a song. No assistance to navigation. Richhoncho (talk) 10:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Category:Sunken cities

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Submerged places. bibliomaniac15 01:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Sunken cities to Category:Submerged cities
Nominator's rationale: rename to align with Category:Submerged places. A merge to the latter would also be a possibility, it may not be very useful to split submerged villages, towns and cities. The cities category contains quite a few small towns by the way. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:04, 21 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Merge per Peterkingiron. — Qwerfjkltalk 08:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Category:Submerged settlements in Ukraine

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Category:Gandhian Philosophy

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Category:Gandhians

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Former populated places in Ukraine by region‎

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