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Category:Self-published authors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac15 05:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While some authors, in various genres, may have become known for some works they self-published, this seems to be non-defining characteristic that is incidental to their defining traits as novelists, cartoonists, playwrights, etc. and contra WP:COPDEF guidelines. I think this is a trivial and arbitrary category: how many self-published works are required to be included? Self-publishing can be found in any literary genre, from alternative comics and punk zines to poetry, fiction, and self-help books. I'd say that any category that groups Oscar Wilde, Gerhard (cartoonist), Beatrix Potter, David Duke, Milo Yiannopoulos, Stephenie Meyer, and Kamala (wrestler) is pretty indiscriminate and unhelpful for anything but niche trivia. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
These are two verifiable yet widely unrelated facts that may be significant to their respective biographies, but that don't demonstrate "self-published" itself is a defining trait of the author. We don't have categories for "People ignored by mainstream publishers." How many self-published books by Potter, Wilde, or anyone else would merit inclusion? All? More than half? Just one? Unlike Category:Self-published books, a person's publishing status can vary by time and medium. Similarly, we have Category:Crowdfunded projects, but not Category:Crowdfunded people. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:30, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Prisons in Haryana

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Prisons in Haryana
Nominator's rationale: Only one article categorized under this. A list article about prisons in Haryana. No articles about prisons in Haryana exist on Wikipedia making this category a one-off. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:14, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jagan Nath University, NCR

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:45, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Jagan Nath University, NCR
Nominator's rationale: The mainspace was deleted over failing GNG. Thus, the category is now useless and is only under two articles that are members of the faculty of the school. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:14, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Peterkingiron, I nominated it for deletion using PROD. I linked above in my rationale. It was deleted on July 11. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Male journalists

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 03:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCEGRS, trivial intersection between gender and occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 9 July 2021 (UTC):[reply]
  • I don't think that this is necessary, apart from Category:Indian male television journalists they are non-diffusing categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Whatever they may be in theory, looking at various articles finds the 'xxx male journalists' to be the only xxx journalists' category currently assigned to some (how many?) articles. Hmains (talk) 18:05, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, then I hope this can be done in some automated way. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have, or do we need, a clear policy of when Male categories are needed in occupations?Rathfelder (talk) 22:55, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most of the male categories are actors, singers, artists, writers and sports people. We have male poets, Male dramatists and playwrights and Male non-fiction writers. I'm inclined to agree that for journalists this is a trivial intersection, but if so, is this not also true for non-fiction writers? Maybe we agree that imagination is affected by gender, but more factual stuff isnt? We dont seem to have male scientists. Rathfelder (talk) 14:19, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:CATGENDER explicitly says that male and female categories do not need to be balanced directly. Sports is an exception that is specifically mentioned in the guideline, because men and women competitions are usually separated. Consequently Category:Women by occupation has 157 subcategories, while Category:Men by occupation has 34 subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ―Qwerfjkltalk 14:36, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Or if I may borrow a line from BDD, who said it elsewhere better and more concisely: "...this move would absolutely further entrench our systemic bias. It's probably worth discussing clarification to CATGENDER." --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:47, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2021 storming of the United States Capitol

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The result of the discussion was: procedural close, discussion may start over if and when the article is renamed (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 11:07, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:2021 storming of the United States Capitol to Category:2021 United States Capitol attack
Nominator's rationale: This category was moved out-of-process to this new title, an action I reverted but since the main article is now titled 2021 United States Capitol attack, I thought I'd officially propose this move to see if there is a consensus to move the category as well. Liz Read! Talk! 17:26, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, let's suspend this discussion while the main article move is being reviewed. Liz Read! Talk! 18:39, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Noting that the result of this discussion should reflect the result of the move review linked above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 12:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Subcategories of Category:Paintings by collection

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The result of the discussion was: keep. bibliomaniac15 05:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in Christ Church Picture Gallery‎‎ to Category:Paintings in the collection of Christ Church Picture Gallery
  2. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in Palazzo Abatellis to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Galleria Regionale della Sicilia
  3. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Delaware Art Museum to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Delaware Art Museum
  4. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Dulwich Picture Gallery to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Dulwich Picture Gallery
  5. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Galerie Neue Meister‎ to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Galerie Neue Meister
  6. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Galleria Sabauda to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Galleria Sabauda
  7. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Hamburger Kunsthalle to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Hamburger Kunsthalle
  8. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Harvard Art Museums to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Harvard Art Museums
  9. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Musei civici di Padova to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Musei Civici di Padova
  10. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Museum of Fine Arts of Nancy‎ to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Museum of Fine Arts of Nancy‎
  11. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the National Library of Wales‎ to Category:Paintings in the collection of the National Library of Wales
  12. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the National Portrait Gallery, London‎ to Category:Paintings in the collection of the National Portrait Gallery, London‎
  13. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the National Portrait Gallery (United States) to Category:Paintings in the collection of the National Portrait Gallery (United States)
  14. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Old St. John's Hospital to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Memling Museum
  15. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts
  16. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Philbrook Museum of Art to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Philbrook Museum of Art
  17. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Pinacoteca e museo civico di Volterra to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Pinacoteca e Museo Civico di Volterra
  18. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Pinacoteca Nazionale (Siena) to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Pinacoteca Nazionale (Siena)
  19. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Sforza Castle to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Pinacoteca del Castello Sforzesco
  20. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Thyssen-Bornemisza Museum to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Thyssen-Bornemisza Museum
  21. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Wadsworth Atheneum to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Wadsworth Atheneum
  22. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Yale Center for British Art to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Yale Center for British Art
  23. Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Yale University Art Gallery to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Yale University Art Gallery
  24. Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Astrup Fearnley Museum of Modern Art to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Astrup Fearnley Museum of Modern Art
  25. Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Baltimore Museum of Art to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Baltimore Museum of Art
  26. Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Galleria nazionale d'arte moderna to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Galleria Nazionale d'Arte Moderna
  27. Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom to Category:Paintings in the Royal Collection of the United Kingdom
  28. Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Rubenshuis to Category:Paintings in the collection of the Rubenshuis
Nominator's rationale: The subcategories of Category:Paintings by collection previously used a mixture of the styles "Paintings in" and "Paintings of"; in a CfD nomination in May I argued for changing the instances of the latter style as (e.g.) "Paintings of the Louvre" could be taken to mean paintings depicting the Louvre's building, rather than ones in its collection. The outcome of that nomination was that every "Paintings of" was changed to "Paintings in the collection of", because "Paintings in" was thought to be imprecise. (A painting in the Louvre's collection might not actually be in the Louvre at any given time; it might be at the Louvre-Lens, at the Louvre Abu Dhabi, or on loan to another institution.) So it now remains for these examples of "Paintings in" to be changed to "Paintings in the collection of", in order to achieve consistency.
In the cases of the Castello Sforzesco, the Old St. John's Hospital and the Palazzo Abatellis, which are buildings housing museums rather than museum collections per se, I propose changing the names in the categories to those of the museums in question: the Pinacoteca del Castello Sforzesco, the Memling Museum and the Galleria Regionale della Sicilia. I've also found five instances of "Paintings of [a collection]" which slipped through the net at the time of the original nomination, so I've included those as well. "Paintings of the Royal Collection" should be changed to "Paintings in the Royal Collection", as opposed to "Paintings in the collection of the Royal Collection" (which would be both redundant and meaningless), per the outcome of this CfD nomination in June. Ham II (talk) 09:00, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Events by city

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 23#Events by city

Category:Waterways campaigners of the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:British waterways activists (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Renaming Category:Waterways campaigners of the United Kingdom to Category:British waterway activists
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CATNAME and the spirit of WP:C2C, consistency with established category tree names
These people are definitely defined by their activism preserving British waterways and canals but there doesn't appear to have been a single "campaign" and this follows the more common naming format in Category:British activists. Not every subcategory follows this format though so I wasn't sure if a speedy name was appropriate. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That would work too. - RevelationDirect (talk) 22:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Non-governmental organizations with consultative status at the United Nations

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The result of the discussion was: listify and delete. bibliomaniac15 05:24, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Non-governmental organizations with consultative status at the United Nations
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Organizations with roster consultative status to the United Nations Economic and Social Council
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Organizations with special consultative status to the United Nations Economic and Social Council‎
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Organizations with general consultative status to the United Nations Economic and Social Council
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NOT and WP:NONDEFINING (WP:TRIVIALCAT)
There are currently 5,593 non-governmental organizations that have consultative status to the UN United Nations Economic and Social Council (online database). This category creates a mish-mash of otherwise unrelated organisations with little in common that are unlikely to aid navigation including the Blind Union, Baltic and International Maritime Council, Planned Parenthood, ISO, Greenpeace, Scout Movement, Road Transport Union, YMCA, Fellowship of Buddhists, AARP, and the Celtic League. We already have List of organizations with consultative status to the United Nations Economic and Social Council for any reader interested in the topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: Converted to List of non-governmental organizations with consultative status at the United Nations. – Fayenatic London 09:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]