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Category:Pages with misplaced templates

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Category:People from Hawaii (island)

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:People from Hawaii County, Hawaii to Category:People from Hawaii (island), keeping a redirect. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Possibly I should have proposed this the other way around, but the Big Island of Hawaii is coterminous with Hawaii County, so there's no benefit to categorisation (and possible confusion) created by having both. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good point: probably this way around makes more sense than my original proposal. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 13:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ikari no Yousai

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging contents per Marcocapelle. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT (small and with no potential for expansion) ZXCVBNM (TALK) 17:28, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Aviation in the Mediterranean Sea

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:51, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer, each with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Mayors of places in Marche

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:50, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, just two or three articles in each of these categories and they are not part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wind power Wyoming

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The result of the discussion was: no further action required (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 09:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2C Convention is "Wind power in ...". Terribly sorry but I've made the mistake of creating the new category. I've reverted my other changes, but now the new page must be deleted first? Hope this doesn't cause someone too much trouble. --DB1729 (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC) DB1729 (talk) 13:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Destroyed landmarks in the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per the others, "landmark" is subjective and the single article in the category is already in Category:Demolished buildings and structures in the Netherlands. SportingFlyer T·C 12:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Destroyed landmarks in Turkmenistan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per others - "destroyed" and especially "landmarks" are subjective, and there's a good question as to whether the single building in this category was actually destroyed (appears to have been moved.) SportingFlyer T·C 12:01, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alumni of Rift Valley Academy

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The result of the discussion was: delete; could be created if any bio articles could be added to it. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a category for alumni of a secondary school that has always only had one entry. Which is contain in the article for the school, Rift Valley Academy. So this is category is not really needed. Adamant1 (talk) 11:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is not a complete tree nor meant to be. The larger part of secondary schools is not represented here. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:59, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dallas (TV franchise) character redirects to lists

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus after 7 weeks and 1 relist. Note there is no prohibition on manually doing the purge and/or split itself. (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Most of these don't redirect to a list. Alternatively the category could be purged from these too. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:58, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People who lost United States citizenship

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The result of the discussion was: rename. There is a rough consensus to rename, but also some skepticism as to whether the category should exist at all. I'm noting here that this is but one subcategory of Category:People who lost citizenship, so a follow-up nomination may be in order. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:58, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Or Category:Former citizens of the United States. Some of these people, like Naomi Osaka, did not lose their citizenship, but rather willingly gave it up. Also, new title would match Lists of former United States citizens. JDDJS (talk to mesee what I've done) 22:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • If articles do not even mention the reason of loss, what is the the point of splitting the category by reason of loss? Besides the fact that articles do not bother to mention this, doesn't that confirm the lack of definingness? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:04, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fictional people sentenced to death

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 10:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining. ★Trekker (talk) 03:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Space program of the United States stubs

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus after 7 weeks and 1 relisting (non-admin closure) William Allen Simpson (talk) 11:06, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Space program of the United States is not entirely contained in NASA. US Space Force and US private companies have their own space programs. This category list stubs related to NASA, not USSF or US private companies. Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 13:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I could see other names though: Category:Space programs of the United States of America stubs or Category:Space programs of the Federal government of the United States stubs (which would include both the civil space programs (NASA run) and the military prograns (USAF operated for decades, now run by the USSF).
Or, if one wanted to include ALL programs being run in the geographic territory of the USA, whether they were gvmt or private, then something like or Category:Space programs operating in the Unites States of America stubs, which could include all the Federal civil space programs (under NASA); plus the military programs (all are Federal, and under USSF today) plus any State-level programs (where US states are pushing, and funding, their own agendas: I can think of several, mostly building and financing spaceports, often with the stated objective of economic development; plus any notable private programs funded and directed by private capital (like the SpaceX reusable launch system development program or the SpaceX Starship development program that is currently in its eighth year since Raptor engine development began, and the private company SpaceX has self-funded with approx. a billion USD to this point. So, this category needs a change. But could use additional thinking to get the new cat name(s) right. N2e (talk) 15:14, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fantasy film festivals

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The result of the discussion was: merge both to a new Category:Fantasy and horror film festivals. There is some support for Category:Speculative fiction film festivals; the new category could be nominated for renaming to that if an editor wishes to do so. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: At the film festival level, there isn't a very clean segregation between these two film genres. While a very few film festivals do concentrate exclusively on one genre or the other, the vast majority freely blend both -- on a list-comparison in AWB, I found that about half of all the film festivals in both categories were filed as both genres, and even the ones that were filed only in one category or the other also largely should have been in both, as they were still mostly described as "fantasy and horror" film festivals in their articles. So there just isn't a clear enough distinction here to justify two separate categories here, because the vast majority of the contents in both categories are dual-genre fantasy and horror film festivals rather than single-genre fantasy or horror film festivals. Bearcat (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The titles aren't a reliable gauge of anything. Even some of the festivals that do have one word or the other in their titles still describe the festival in body text as crossing over the genre distinction — for example, Telluride Horror Show describes its subject as exhibiting horror, fantasy and science fiction films, not just horror films alone. And festivals with one word or the other in their titles (as opposed to both, or neither) are in the clear minority, not "most", of the titles here even before taking into account that just eyeballing the titles alone still doesn't actually help delineate them cleanly. Bearcat (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Discographies of African artists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: African isn't a nationality and we don't have a scheme of discographies by continent. For that matter, Category:Discographies by artist nationality is pretty navigable at 86 entries, so it's not necessary to have a by-continent scheme. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 00:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Circular line stations

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Circular line stations (Taipei Metro). Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:44, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A small category. Has only a single page. Should be up merged . Shyamsunder (talk) 10:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Latvia women's national football team managers

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging contents to Category:Women's national association football team managers, Category:Latvia women's national football team and Category:Football managers in Latvia. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category has only one page. It is a small category and should be up merged. Shyamsunder (talk) 10:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:African-American heroes and icons

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:39, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Indefinable and subjective category. That most of those currently listed are very widely admired African-Americans is indisputable - but what are the limits of this category? Are cultural (musical, sports, literary) figures to be included? How do we decide who is/is not a hero and for whom? Pincrete (talk) 10:18, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Response: The nominator has no problem with any of the "very widely admired" people on this list. He or she does not propose any people to be added or deleted. I think this is endorsement of the validity of the category. It is derived in part from List of monuments to African Americans. I think it's doing more good than harm. Correction - it's not doing any harm at all, as I see it. Any problems are hypothetical, and can be dealt with by discussion if and as they come up. Any comment from African-American Wikipedians? deisenbe (talk) 10:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Boyne Valley, Queensland

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:56, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A rural locality doesn't need a category. (Its two subcategories are also nominated for deletion immediately below.) Clarityfiend (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ubobo, Queensland

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:57, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two entries for an obscure town don't merit a category. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nagoorin, Queensland

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Gladstone Region. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A category for a town where the town is the only member??? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of English people by school affiliation

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The result of the discussion was: rename, but to Category:Lists of people by English school affiliation. MER-C 16:27, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Lists of English people by school affiliation to Category:List of people by English school affiliation
Nominator's rationale: Similar to Category:Lists of people by university or college in England, the people in these lists are not necessarily English themselves. Reywas92Talk 02:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Taipei Metro stations named from roads

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SHAREDNAME)
Taipei Metro stations are typically named after nearby roads or buildings for easier references, like with many transit systems. These categories group these stations by the type of name they have which is classic WP:SHAREDNAME. We categorize roads, hospitals, temples and schools separately but these are all metro stations - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Places named after Cesar Chavez‎

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 19:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Cesar Chavez‎
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Queen Elizabeth II‎
  • Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Places named after Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar‎
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SHAREDNAME)
The Queen's category is my favorite grab bag of unrelated articles including Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Queen Elizabeth Power Station, Queen Elizabeth Planetarium and Queen Elizabeth Subplate. Mr. Chavez has a lot of streets named after him while Mr. Vidyasagar‎ has many schools named in his honour. All three of these are classic WP:SHAREDNAME because they are things that would have been built anyway so they're not defined by their name and the contents are already listified here, here, and here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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