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Category:Rom the Spaceknight

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename category to follow suit with recent main article move per Talk:Rom the Space Knight proposal, which was unopposed. -- 2pou (talk) 22:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Red X I withdraw my nomination - After further review, this should be covered by WP:C2D, and it has been added here: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Current requests. --2pou (talk) 00:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Black British people

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The result of the discussion was: Keep Timrollpickering (Talk) 23:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is interesting to note that you think these categories are about race instead of ethnicity. But in fact we do not categorize by race. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In essence, an ethnic group is a named social category of people based on perceptions of shared social experience or one's ancestors' experiences. Members of the ethnic group see themselves as sharing cultural traditions and history that distinguish them from other groups. Ethnic group identity has a strong psychological or emotional component that divides the people of the world into opposing categories of “us” and “them.” In contrast to social stratification, which divides and unifies people along a series of horizontal axes based on socioeconomic factors, ethnic identities divide and unify people along a series of vertical axes. Thus, ethnic groups, at least theoretically, cut across socioeconomic class differences, drawing members from all strata of the population.
The key concept here is the sharing aspect. So the question is whether Black British share anything at all, apart from their non-pale skin colour, so whether they are truly comparable to African-American ethnicity. African-Americans self-identify as such, and they have shared cultural organisations. That hardly seems to be the case for Black British. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • https://www.sadacca.co.uk/about-us/ is at best about African-Carribean ethnicity if that exists (more likely it is about two ethnicities, African and Carribean), and apparently it doesn't include people of Indian descent who are supposed to belong to Black British. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Black British Music is about music genres in the UK that were mostly 'founded' by the African-American ethnicity in the US. It does not suggest that this is shared culture of British people of African, Caribbean and Indian descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • http://bedsa.org/ is about ethnic diversity and does not mention Black British as being a single ethnicity. Going into perhaps too much detail, "black" is not capitalized and not followed by "British" while "communities" is written in plural. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:25, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No-one is claiming that Black British (or African-American) is a single ethnicity. African is certainly not an ethnicity and neither is West Indian. Oculi (talk) 08:19, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough but then we should categorize people by what their ethnicity actually is, if any. Or otherwise using descent by country categories is sufficient. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:38, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • While that may happen incidentally, it is not a sufficient basis for a category. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having. Most articles in these categories do not even mention this characteristic so it is certainly not something that sources commonly and consistently use. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Okemos, Michigan, by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 15:12, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Container category for a small town with only 1 sub-category. TM 13:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Temecula, California, by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 15:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Container category with only 1 sub-category. TM 13:25, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Jonesboro, Arkansas, by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Container category with only 1 sub-category. TM 13:24, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Oroville, California by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge for now. – Fayenatic London 14:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Container category with only 1 sub-category. TM 13:24, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Categories containing two sub-categories are regularly deleted. Five is the minimum for keeping per general consensus.--TM 13:41, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Captaincy General of Chile

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The result of the discussion was: Rename Timrollpickering (Talk) 23:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
95 more categories
Nominator's rationale: Anachronism: the Captaincy General of Chile declared itself independent in 1818, becoming the Republic of Chile. The categories in the pre-independence era are an uncomfortable mix of old name and (mostly) new name, which this nomination will resolve.
I considered adding an option B to consolidate all the categories under "Chile", but I think that the distinction of name is worth preserving because the difference is not just a change of name. For most of its history, the Captaincy General of Chile had a much larger territory than contemporary Chile, including most of what is now Argentina.
Note that these categories are (or should be) populated by a series of category header templates, which will need to be amended. I will be happy to asssist the closing admin in implementing this if they ask. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:42, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Education by Country

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 16:25, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We already have Category:Education by country (notice capitalization difference), which is a fully-diffused ((container category)). Every article is thus in a "Education in [country]" subcat. So this is redundant to the lower-case version and also generally inappropriate to have in both subat and a diffused parent-cat. Further, some of the entries are not even countries. DMacks (talk) 10:33, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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