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Category:Articles about multiple people

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: containerize and figure out the rest later. There doesn't seem to be anyone arguing for keeping the category around in its current state, although there isn't very much agreement on much else within this discussion. So, the category will be converted into a container category (which will effectively "make it hidden", at least on articles). There seems to be agreement that the category will need to be renamed after the containerization, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus on what it's new name should be. I'd suggest that someone boldly renames it and see if anyone objects. ‑Scottywong| comment _ 01:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose containerizing and renaming Category:Articles about multiple people
Nominator's rationale: containerize per WP:TRIVIALCAT, the fact that an article is about multiple people is entirely trivial, but the category need to be kept in order to tie the subcategories together. The consequence of containerizing is that the category also needs to be renamed (as it will no longer contain articles). Possibilities are:
Note that the objective of the nomination is containerization while the consequence is a rename. With the objective in mind, any of the rename options will do.
This is a follow-up on this earlier discussion. @Rathfelder, Fayenatic london, Anomalous+0, DexDor, Peterkingiron, Dimadick, and Janke: pinging contributors to previous discussion - Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • So the intention would be to removed subcategories like Category:Articles about multiple people in pre-Tang China and just have articles and subcategories defined by a number? There were quite a lot of what I now know to be called prosopographical articles, and I've removed those, apart from the Roman ones. Rathfelder (talk) 07:03, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Eh? The member articles of Category:Articles about multiple people in pre-Tang China are very much defined by a number. That category would not have to be removed, but renamed in a matching way.
  • Category:Articles about multiple people in ancient Rome is more to the point. A few pages (like most of those in the Greece, Bible and Quran categories) are about couples or other pairs. Other pages in the Rome category are more like disambiguation pages for shared names. – Fayenatic London 08:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • What maintenance would the articles in such a category need? Maintenance categories are usually/always added by a template (rather than a category tag being placed directly on an article). DexDor (talk) 05:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would not object to splitting group #2 to a separate sub-cat, if there is a helpful name for it. – Fayenatic London 10:41, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christian terrorism by country

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete, recreation permitted if coverage of this topic improves. MER-C 09:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, unneeded category layer with only one subcategory. No objection against recreation if more country categories with a substantial amount of content on this topic are created, but I do not envisage that on a short term. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Latgalians

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:06, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, does not contribute much to its parent Category:People from Latgale. The two biography articles are already in Category:People from Daugavpils, a subcategory of Category:People from Latgale. If kept, rename to Category:Latgalians (modern), aligned with its main article, and remove the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People by historical province in Latvia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Latvian people by location and then delete. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 01:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, probematic holding category. For both subcategories the word "province" is inaccurate (Livonia is a former confederation and a former Russian governorate; Courland is a former prince-bishopric, part of Livonia). In addition, the phrase "in Latvia" is quite problematic for Livonia because Livonia was actually bigger than Latvia (it also contained the southern half of Estonia). Finally for people from Courland we already have people by historical region in Category:People by cultural region in Latvia or Category:People by region in Latvia, so then this holding category is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Were the two states contemporaries for a few decades? ("The states of the Livonian Confederation ceased to exist during the Livonian War of 1558–1582."). In any case, since a "by state" categorisation is out of the question given the fluid nature of states in the region, then a regional categorisation is best. Is "Eastern Baltic" a thing or "Southeastern Baltic"? I don't want to have the word "provinces" in the title as it raises questions of state "ownership" of provinces. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hetmans of Livonia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to parents Category:Hetmans and Category:People from Livonia. Jan Hieronimowicz Chodkiewicz is already in Category:Duchy of Livonia; if this is incorrect, please move it to Category:History of Livonia. – Fayenatic London 06:54, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, small category and hardly defining for the one biography in it. Limited growth possibilities since the Duchy of Livonia only existed from 1566 to 1621. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The dukes were the kings of Poland, so governors (hetmans) is all we have in terms of actual rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Serer royal houses

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 2#Category:Serer royal houses

Category:Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao geography stubs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The related categories were renamed following consensus here. The stub category was opposed on the Speedy page and the opposition was not withdrawn. I have added the template to this nomination. – Fayenatic London 07:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Copy of Speedy discussion
  • Category:Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao geography stubs to Category:Bangsamoro geography stubs – C2C/C2D per successor region Bangsamoro RioHondo (talk) 17:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose for the same reason as bellow. Armbrust The Homunculus 07:38, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    You know that that is being inacurrate and that no places or geographic entities can exist in a dead region. Even the regional government website already redirects to new regional entity https://armm.gov.ph. Take a look at the contents of the above geography stubs category. Most of them are articles on municipalities that left the old region, now defunct, and formed this new one through a legitimate plebiscite. The speed by which wikipedia updates its information to provide accuracy at all times is lost to bureaucracy.--RioHondo (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Armbrust: the related cases went to a full nomination here, which resulted with consensus to rename. Would you therefore withdraw your opposition to this speedy renaming of the stub category, please? – Fayenatic London 20:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Books by Anne Sexton

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Anne Sexton is primarily known as a poet, known for individual poems (e.g. Sylvia's Death, Her Kind) and her books are chiefly if not exclusively poetry collections as opposed to novels, non-fiction, etc. I think a poetry category is more suited (compare to Category:Poetry by Emily Dickinson), at least until there are more Sexton articles to categorize. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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