October 12

Category:UNI.T

• Propose deleting Category:UNI.T - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCEPON. The group Uni.T lasted a grand total of five months together, and there is no chance this category can realistically be populated to satisfy WP:SMALLCAT. ℯxplicit 23:08, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lepidoptera described in 1758

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up removal of empty lepidoptera categories, an undesired, sparsely populated, intermediate category between the Category:Insects described in 1901-level and Category:Butterflies described in 1901/Category:Moths described in 1901-level, per recent WP:TREE RFC @ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life#Request for comment: categorizing by year of formal description. See WP:INSECTS discussion here, and related CfD here.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  21:18, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WT:TREE, WT:INSECTS, & WT:LEPID notified.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  21:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - there is no point in my opinion in gathering together 2 of the subcats of Category:Insects described in 1957 say into Lepidoptera. Oculi (talk) 23:37, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – there's no point in a large set of categories each of which hold only two subcategories. (This is a repeated problem which occurs when editors try to exactly replicate a taxonomic hierarchy in related categories, regardless of the resulting tiny size of some of them.) Peter coxhead (talk) 09:41, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I would support this in principle, but I can't bring myself to support a nom which appears to be based on a prior depopulation of the nominated categories. That pre-empts the CFD discusison, and makes it pointless because there is nothing left to keep. The categories should have been nominated for merger, and any depopulation done only after a consenus to do so was formed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: if not for the ~3.5 month long RfC, that definitely would have been an option. The RfC, and any WikiProject-specific discussion, act as the requisite merger discussion, and no great number of articles have been edited as a result. I'd say between 0~10 articles have been edited over the course of these 6 CfDs & 383 categories so far (container categories misplaced on articles not withstanding; I think all were container, so the # is probably 0, but I'm hedging my bets with an upper limit of 10). These CfDs also serve several purposes: they act as 1) a 'speak now or forever hold your peace' notification, 2) a reminder and solidification of the prevailing consensus, to both inform project members and to dissuade future forking, and 3) a historical record at WT:TREE and each of the associated WikiProjects.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  13:56, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Teachers colleges

Option A:

Propose merging Category:Teachers colleges to Category:Education schools

Option B:

Propose merging Category:Education schools to Category:Teachers colleges

Propose renaming Category:Education schools by country to Category:Teachers colleges by country

Propose renaming Category:Education schools in China to Category:Teachers colleges in China

Propose renaming Category:Education schools in Japan‎ to Category:Teachers colleges in Japan

Propose renaming Category:Education schools in Poland‎ to Category:Teachers colleges in Poland

Propose renaming Category:Education schools in Russia‎ to Category:Teachers colleges in Russia

Nominator's rationale: merge (option A) or reverse merge (option B). The previous attempt of merging Category:Education schools and Category:Teachers colleges failed, not because because anyone objected merging, but because there was an issue about the 'correct' name of the category. Here is a new attempt and please note that "no consensus" is worse than either of the two proposals because it will leave us with two categories with an identical scope. Also note that in option B a large number of country subcats have not been included in the nomination; the ones that have not been listed here should be decided upon individually, taking in mind WP:ENGVAR. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Option A - there are only 2 articles (one in Zimbabwe, one in Turkey) and no subcats in Category:Teachers colleges, created in 2016, long after Category:Education schools. Also Teachers college is a redirect to Normal school. Just create Category:Education schools in Turkey and Category:Education schools in Zimbabwe for the 2 articles. Oculi (talk) 21:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:White Power

• Propose deleting Category:White Power - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: The stated criteria is "The main articles for this category are White Power and White Power movement." There are no such articles, those are redirects to White pride and White supremacy respectively. Doug Weller talk 13:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC) I just noticed that the redirects are also in this category. Doug Weller talk 13:42, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I removed the Cat main template. I created the category in preparation of creating the White Power article which will help document the historical use of the phrase and it's impact on past and today's political and social situation. It's important to note that the category doesn't just cover the White Power article but everything that encompasses the term such as hate groups (KKK, American Nazi Party), the person coined the term (Rockwell), and related articles (white power music, Encyclopedia of White Power). Dash9Z (talk) 15:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now and possibly revisit this issue if we are going to have an established White Power article. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jessica Jones seasons

• Propose merging Category:Jessica Jones seasons to Category:Jessica Jones (TV series)

Nominator's rationale: This category, and its parent category, both seem rather small. The parent category has only 2 articles - one about the show, the other is a list of characters in the show. Should we simply merge this list of seasons with the overall category for the TV series? – numbermaniac 07:35, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:BioWare companions

• Propose merging Category:BioWare companions to Category:Video game sidekicks

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT, the subject does not merit such an overly specific category. As far as I can tell, pretty much all Bioware characters who have articles here are party members for the main character's party. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Since I originally created the category, I figure I might as well give the context for why I made it. I noticed a lot of overall coverage of BioWare companions taken in aggregate -- who was the best, the worst, what were recurring archetypes BioWare used and how game romance was handled, etc. So I felt it made a degree of sense to just give that a category outside of the usual franchise-specific character ones. But yes, the vast majority of articles we have on BW characters are on companions -- the obvious exceptions being Revan, Commander Shepard and some of the listy character articles, but these are rare enough that, even for a hypothetical person just searching for info on BioWare companions, they probably wouldn't have much of a problem. On the record I do think the idea of RPG party members is probably distinct from the more general idea of a 'sidekick', though I'm not now actually advocating that be split into a separate category. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 00:28, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Star Wars droid characters

• Propose merging Category:Star Wars droid characters to Category:Star Wars characters

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT - there are only 5 actual members of the category, and no need for such a specific category when there is not one for "Star Wars Imperial characters" or "Star Wars rebel characters". There is no reason the characters can't simply be in the "Star Wars characters" and "Fictional robots" categories at the same time. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:06, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom.— TAnthony^Talk 14:54, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I count 9 articles, not 5. This is not a small category. Dimadick (talk) 16:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some of them are redirects which are not allowed in categories. Others are articles that were wrongly placed there ("Battle droid" and "Droid" are articles about a fictional concept, not a fictional character)_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 16:59, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • ZXCVBNM: Redirects most certainly are allowed in categories, e.g. redirects to sub-topics which do not have their own separate articles; please see Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. – Fayenatic London 16:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - even 5 is not SMALLCAT. As I write there are 7 including 1 redirect; redirects can and should be categorised. (This said any categorisation of L3-37 is difficult to support. One would like at least a sentence on L3-37.) Oculi (talk) 21:06, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Months in the 2000s

• Propose deleting Category:Months in the 2000s - Template:Lc1
  

Nominator's rationale: I don't really get the purpose of this category but I would like to have more experienced editors take a look L293D (☎ • ✎) 02:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• This category apparently contains a subset of Category:Current events archives. The decade category may make sense only/especially when somebody takes the effort to diffuse the entire Category:Current events archives by decade and turns the latter into a container category. For the nominated category, if kept, I would suggest to rename this to Category:2000s current events archives because the current name is very unclear. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:05, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2018 Commonwealth Games sports templates

• Propose merging Category:2018 Commonwealth Games sports templates to Category:2018 Commonwealth Games event navigational boxes‎
• Propose merging Category:2014 Commonwealth Games sports templates‎ to Category:2014 Commonwealth Games event navigational boxes‎

Nominator's rationale: For each year, the same type of template is split across two categories. DH85868993 (talk) 00:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Note. this was 2 separate nominations. I have merged them into one. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (i.e. do not merge). Just make the navbox categories subcats of their related template categories, and move all navboxes to the subcat. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All the templates in the "sports templates" categories are navboxes, so all that would be left in the "sports templates" categories would be the "navigational boxes" subcategories. DH85868993 (talk) 02:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I see no prob with that.

If non-navbox templates are created, they have a home. If not, there's still an extra path to the cats with content. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - exactly as BHG says, with typical sagacity. Oculi (talk) 11:07, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]