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Category:20,000 Leagues Under the Sea films

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:52, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Suggested rename to conform with the title of the article about the novel (Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea) and the naming convention for categories of films based on other works. Trivialist (talk) 22:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Syrian National Coalition

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The result of the discussion was: rename. -- Tavix (talk) 20:46, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces. Charles Essie (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I see what your saying. But I'm not sure I agree. How about we rename it for now and hold a separate delete discussion afterwards. Charles Essie (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • In that case let's rename it now and then start a delete discussion. Charles Essie (talk) 16:08, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:True Path Party (Turkey) politicians

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:44, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Two categories for the same party. Charles Essie (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:True Path Party (Turkey)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Democratic Party (Turkey, current). Charles Essie (talk) 21:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:43, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Unified Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) to Category:Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist-Centre)
Nominator's rationale: C2D per Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist-Centre). Charles Essie (talk) 19:41, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pan-Arabist organizations

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. -- Tavix (talk) 20:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The deference between Arab nationalism and pan-Arabism is small enough that I don't think having separate categories for organizations and political parties is necessary. I also think that categories for "pan-Arab" groups (e.i. organizations and parties that span several or all the Arab countries regardless of ideology) would be much more useful. Charles Essie (talk) 19:26, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I doubt whether it's useful to make such a distinction. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm conceding. Let's close this one up. Charles Essie (talk) 20:22, 28 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Low Island geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:46, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 18 stubs, no sign of potential growth, no equivalent permcat. Not useful. Delete category, upmerge template. Dawynn (talk) 12:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks: I had not correctly appreciated the effect of merging a stub category. Some kind of upmerge should always be necessary. Nevertheless, it would be helpful, if noms could indicate where the deleted stub-type is to be merged. I know that stubs for deletion used to be a separate discussion, which was merged to CFD. Clearly the rules are slightly different from ordinary CFDs. Peterkingiron (talk) 09:58, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They are - which is why it used to be a separate process page :) Stub categories are always merged to whatever their parent stub categories are - so in this case Category:South Shetland Islands geography stubs Grutness...wha? 00:43, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Marketplace mass attack

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The result of the discussion was: rename Category:Marketplace mass attack to Category:Shopping mall attacks and Category:Attacks on marketplaces to Category:Marketplace attacks. This is without prejudice against a separate discussion regarding the best terminology to use. -- Tavix (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Basically the same topic, WP:OVERLAP and this category title uses singular form instead of plural. Brandmeistertalk 09:56, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Marcocapelle: My answer was no, thus my alt rename proposal. The naming of Category:Attacks on marketplaces is out of scope here, so we shouldn't get distracted by that, but I think that one should not be renamed to Category:Attacks on retail markets, as it is specifically about marketplaces, which may be similar to other retail markets in terms of commerce, but not in terms of being a particularly relevant central locality. --PanchoS (talk) 17:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, I got distracted indeed :-) Support alt rename to shopping malls/shopping centres. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mammals of Algeria

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The result of the discussion was: merge all per nominator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: For many mammals (e.g. African wildcat or Lesser Egyptian jerboa) being found in a particulary country is WP:NON-DEFINING and can cause a long list of category tags on articles. Note: Each of these categories has a corresponding list article that does the job much better. Related CFDs: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_June_14#Category:Mammals_of_Jordan, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_June_8#Category:Birds_of_Algeria. DexDor (talk) 08:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Categorization of species by country leads to a large number of category tags on some articles (especially when we had such categories for countries like Andorra, Jersey and Monaco) - often where the article doesn't even mention those countries (so can hardly be a defining characteristic). A list is a much better way to present a list of the animals found in any particular country (or other region such as a particular nature reserve) - for example, a list can contain extra information such as "occasional visitor" or "only in the far South of the country". Also the lists tend to be much more complete - it's common to come across cases (especially with insects) where the list has several hundred entries, but the corresponding category only has a handful (and see comment at Category:Mammals of the Democratic Republic of the Congo). Regarding Category:Mammals of Europe (note: I've just removed several subcategories from that category) you may want to see this CFD; the country categories that remain in that category are either (1) where we categorize by a geographical region that is also a country (e.g. Greenland) or for trans-continental countries (e.g. Turkey). In the latter case a bit more work is needed before the category can be deleted (example). DexDor (talk) 12:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Incidents at McDonald's

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Attacks on restaurants. This will satisfy those advocating for both deletion and a merge, which were the majority in numbers and arguments here. -- Tavix (talk) 20:26, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:NONDEF and WP:TRIVIALCAT - the fact that these incidents all occurred at McDonald's restaurants is not a defining characteristic of any of them; one could easily substitute another fast food chain (e.g. KFC) or even another organization altogether (e.g. Safeway) in instead of McDonald's, and there would be no difference in the notability of the incidents. ansh666 01:43, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Pancho's suggestion sounds reasonable to me, though any added for the first category should still have sources saying they were specifically targeted. ansh666 17:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Antisemitic canards

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The result of the discussion was: keep as is, since the main article is titled Antisemitic canard. If the article were to be renamed via WP:RM, however, the category can be speedy renamed. -- Tavix (talk) 23:10, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Antisemitic canards to Category:Antisemitic conspiracy theories
Nominator's rationale: Firstly, as standard article naming conventions apply to categories (Wikipedia:Category names#General conventions), "conspiracy theory" is much more common than the French word "canard" for English readers (WP:COMMONNAME). Secondly, but not less importantly, "antisemitic canards" fails the neutral point of view policy. Calling a group of views "false stor[ies] inciting antisemitism" is inherently not neutral. While the prominent mainstream view needs to be made clear when describing fringe theories, they must still be described neutrally and not blatantly dismissed as false, at least as long as NPOV is one of the core content policies. "A belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for something" (i.e. "conspiracy theory"), while not perfect, is much better. —Godsy(TALKCONT) 01:07, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, splitting is a side issue anyway. This category here is correct and should be kept as is. --PanchoS (talk) 17:17, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I missed the main article pointed out below. Encourage RM of Main Article then speedy this category. I'm opposed to moving the category name first though. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That wording indeed seems a viable proposal, but is out of scope here. --PanchoS (talk) 17:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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