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Category:Telenovelas set in Brazil

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:01, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge.Obsolete and sharing same purpose as the other. NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Telenovelas by country of setting

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:00, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Obsolete and sharing same purpose as the other. NeoBatfreak (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Presidents of the United Nations Security Council

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is an ex-officio position that rotates on a more or less monthly basis. As such, holding that position is not WP:DEFINING of the person who held it, who is usually a head of the delegation (and sometimes a head of state) and notable for many other reasons. There is a list, which is useful, but categorizing everyone who has sat in that chair just adds category clutter otherwise. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:King Adora

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. With only songs and albums subcategories, this is overcategorization per WP:OC#Eponymous. Linking from the main article serves the same purpose and the two subcats are interlinked. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Graphviz

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with only one page in it. I don't see what other pages would go into it, either. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 13:59, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Putta Surya Narasinga Rao

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This appears to be a bio article, not a category. DexDor (talk) 06:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People who knew William Shakespeare

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:57, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is the only "People who knew..." category and IMO it's not a road we should go down ("People who knew Adolf Hitler", "People who knew George Washington" ...). DexDor (talk) 06:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No matter how important "acquaintances" is in the literature, we don't categorize people by who they knew or were friends with. Some of these people might usefully be categorized as "Members of Shakespeare's theater company" or something like that.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
'We' I presume means customary practice. Wikipedia is more creative in designing and making choices by consensus, surely, than this. I gather there is a fear this will create a precedent. The point is, Shakespeare's identity is, rather uniquely because of the polemics surrounding him, substantially established or corroborated by the testimonies of those who knew him, - he has been targeted for historical exceptionalism in other words, since no one else's identity has to be certified by he testimony of friends.Nishidani (talk) 18:57, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
All good meal for an article on shakespeare's identity and how it was so-formed. I looked at the ledes of the articles in this category, most say something like "X was an actor who formed part of Shakespeare's first troupe" or "X was a writer and contemporary of Shakespeare" etc. None of them say "X is noted as one of the few people in the world who actually met Shakespeare". We should not use categories to write an article.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 19:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, even that category is problematic - X associated with Y is usually discouraged.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 19:53, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Tom Reedy (talk) 20:22, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tom... While you have technical permissions to be able to move categories, it is generally frowned upon, and especially when the category itself is under discussion. Can you revert and allow proper consensus to arise first?--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted the move since it required the ability to delete the originally nominated category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'm away from home and don't check WP everyday or even my email. Tom Reedy (talk) 19:05, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think it has the potential to be a half-decent article, with prose and context. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest starting by embedding into the prose at Shakespeare_authorship_question#Recognition_by_fellow_actors.2C_playwrights_and_writers.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ditto51's Continuum Project

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:56, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Inappropriate use of (article space) categorization. DexDor (talk) 05:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Super-Secret BAD Cabal

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Doesn't appear to be a very useful category. If kept then a rename may be appropriate. DexDor (talk) 05:55, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Keynote speaker

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete This is not a defining feature and the membership criterion ("those famous for being a Keynote Speaker") is very imprecise, almost subjective. I think this will cause clutter without a clear benefit in terms of meaningful categorization and browsing. Pichpich (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A number of the contents are described as "motivational speakers" in the lede. I think that works as a defining category - however someone who is known for giving keynotes? Not really.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Steve Jobs isn't a motivational speaker. Keynote is about the event of the company or institution. Motivational speaker is about the person. Dream Focus 20:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Looking through the rest, most of them seem to be motivational speakers. Looking at definition for "keynote speaker" elsewhere, I find it is different than that in the article keynote. So never mind. Dream Focus 21:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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