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Category:Sportspeople from the Tampa Bay Area

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:45, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There are varying definitions as to what composes the Tampa Bay area. How can we then have a Occupation from a undefined area. ...William 23:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Cambridge, Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Only has 2 entries. ...William 23:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sustainable water solution

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category with no rationale given and no meaning obvious. Categorisation of c 10 articles now reverted as category gave no added value to content, having no obvious meaning. Category now empty.  Velella  Velella Talk   18:58, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Emmet Swimming

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:29, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Unnecessary layer of categorization of albums with this eponymous category. Plenty of precedent in CfD that eponymous categories need much more content than a subcatategory already with an established scheme. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Apartheid films

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus, but it sounds like users are leaning towards having an RFC/broader discussion about these issues. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The proposed name better fits the usual "Films about..." convention, and avoids ambiguity. "Apartheid films" could describe films made under apartheid, for example. BDD (talk) 17:01, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree with the need for consistency, but as long as we're discussing one potentially confusing or misleading name, isn't it worth fixing this one in the meantime? If we choose Category:Films about apartheid or Category:Apartheid in film and a centralized discussion chooses the other, we simply rename again. --BDD (talk) 16:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There is no WP:DEADLINE, and the "fix" agreed here may not seem so appropriate when subjected to wider scrutiny. Why waste time having lots of little fragmented discussions? Much better to spend our energies on a comprehensive solution. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, tho, you are right. Critics and academics earn a living partly through arguing what works of fiction are "about", and great fiction is often "about" several themes. I have argued before against this form of categforisation, usually to no avail.
However, I think that the broad question of "aboutness" is one which should be considered in a broader discussion, i.e. an RFC. Any local consensus in this CFD should not override the presumed existing consensus tat this form of category is acceptable. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hubris? yes... And I thought it was how a music group sticks together through thick and thin - a kind of Spinal Tap period piece with a Welsh hymn music genre. :) Any how, there's little doubt my tilting at windmills will not stop these categories' proliferation, but we really ought to think these through at a higher level to see if they are encyclopedic or movie fanclubisms. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Kerrick, Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:20, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with only two entries. ...William 15:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Hinckley, Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small community with just 4 entries. ...William 14:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mayors of Pine City, Minnesota

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Pine City, Minnesota and Category:Mayors of places in Minnesota. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:23, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Small town of just over 3,000 people with one entry. ...William 14:15, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Songs written by Brent Mason

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:50, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single-entry category. Play, Ruby, Play was somehow erroneously credited to Brent, but was actually written by Troy Seals and Tony Brown (record producer). Brent Mason is primarily a session musician, and the vast majority of his entries on BMI are either a.) non-notable album cuts, b.) music bumpers for TV shows, or c.) cuts from the two solo instrumental albums he did, neither of which has an article. In short, WP:OCAT#SMALL for a person whose bread-and-butter is not songwriting. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:59, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Again per WP:SMALLCAT as nominator is aware - part of a category scheme with 4000+ entries. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 18:52, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Even if the person is not a songwriter? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:25, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • So you would agree that "Now and Then There's Such a Fool as I" should be categorized as Category:Songs written by Bill Trader, even though it's literally the only thing he ever wrote, just because it's part of an established category scheme? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)----[reply]
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Category:Convicted Soviet spies

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:46, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Every subcategory uses the "FOO people convicted of spying for the Soviet Union‎" format. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Novels set on the New York City Subway

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The result of the discussion was: dual upmerge. (NAC) Armbrust The Homunculus 22:29, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Single entry populating the category. Appears too narrow. I think that simply using Category:Novels set in New York City would be fine. Sven Manguard Wha? 01:18, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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