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→ See also: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Eyeballs requested on Glenn Greenwald
Glenn Greenwald is a political commentator, erstwhile independent blogger and now a columnist for Salon.com. There are allegations from the blogosphere that at some point in his career as a blogger he left comments on other peoples' blogs using different names. The accusation is essentially sockpuppetry in the realm of political blog comments. Even if the accusation is true it is unprovable, negative, potentially libelous and unencyclopedic. The Wikipedia is a resource used by the world at large. The crime of "sockpuppetry" is an inside baseball sort of thing and has no meaning to the general public. Anyway, an edit war erupts over and over on the article with Greenwald-haters and sockpuppets adding this information to the article again and again. // AStanhope 04:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I've blocked (for 3RR violations) the anon who keeps adding the disputed claim. Strangely enough, she doesn't appear to be very appreciative... -- ChrisO 23:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
We have license to revert and block any user tossing that paragraph around. FCYTravis 07:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
The article was recently unprotected and Raphaelaarchon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has again added the allegations to Glenn Greenwald and Sockpuppet (Internet). In view of this conduct, I've reverted the edits, blocked her for 48 hours and warned her that any repetition will result in an indefinite block. -- ChrisO 07:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The same user now claims to be working with others on an external forum to coordinate further attacks on a range of Wikipedia articles (diff). I've posted an alert to WP:AN/I to request that people watchlist the targeted articles for a while. It would be helpful if BLP editors could do the same. -- ChrisO 10:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC) 2 notes: First, just because the entities reporting Glenn Greenwald's use of sock puppets may be "hostile" to him should have no bearing on the matter if the evidence is compelling, provable and factual and the evidence, even if circumstantial, is verifiable and true, (which, if you read the articles, it most certainly is.) You can argue that Woodward and Bernstein and their employer were extremely hostile to Nixon, yet their coverage of Watergate is not excluded here. Secondly, a quick perusal of Google finds many legitimate news references to the incident. I could mention http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2006/7/26/sock-puppetry.html by Michael Barone, who, while a center-right conservative pundit, is certainly no partisan hack and I can find no personal animus by him toward Greenwald. Lastly, this standard of "denial" by the subject does not seem valid or relevant to the situation at all. Thousands of articles reference crimes, scandals and incidents denied by the subjects, yet when compelling evidence upholds the story, of course Wikipedia reports it. Why, in the Sockpuppet (internet) article alone, there are "examples", some of which the subject denies, yet the article stands. When Greenwald was added as an example, and I think a very well documented one, if you care to read any of the investigative articles, his entry was repeatedly removed. While this information may be negative, it is backed up with much factual documentation, its widely reported, its reported by reputable news organizations, it is relevant and informative, it is fair. This entire affair smacks of protectionism of a single person's article by partisans who support him, while Wikipedia countenances literally thousands of similar articles on less documentation and reporting. Why, the very Michael Barone article from which his reporting of Greenwald's actions was removed contains another article critical of Barone by a left wing blog hostile towards Barone! (by the same Moderator who is policing all the above listed articles purging them of any mention of the sock puppet incident, and not just by the one user, but by many users who are debating in good faith, if you read the Greenwald history page). A more neutral Moderator should look at this evidence and make a more fair adjudication. This information should certainly be debated on the exact wording and form, but the actions by Greenwald are egregious and newsworthy and should be included in an even-handed and well-researched manner. There should be no special treatment for this one blogger when others are being mentioned by name, with less proof, in the very articles from which Greenwald is removed. 61.47.19.221 16:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
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Tom Cruise – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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This bio article is protected so I can't remove the 'Tom Cruise=Jesus' story that was first printed in a British tabloid, the Sun. I am requesting that an admin remove the reference, as it has been denied by Scientology officials and is poorly sourced. It is at the very end of the Miscellaneous section. 69.12.131.206 20:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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More lists – Two deleted, two unchanged. Inactive. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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More listsI went through the category for articles tagged with ((unreferenced)) and found some lists which could be problematic for WP:BLP. What does everyone think of these?--BirgitteSB 17:33, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
↑ That removal was reverted the same day. — Athaenara ✉ 21:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC) ↑↑ It had been tagged since May 5th. — Athaenara ✉ 21:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Paris Hilton – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Unsourced (and highly questionable) negative information concerning a "medical condition". --- RockMFR 20:49, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Prospective question – Inactive. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Prospective questionThis in an inquiry about BLP concerns regarding a 9-year old video game star who today is the subject of a major feature in the New York Times [2] The publicity was clearly done with the permission of his parents, and his career has been with their encouragement. (Personally, I think its outrageous behavior on their part & there therefore might be some BLP concerns with respect to them as well). But the NYT considered it appropriate to print, & that's a major national medium. I don't see how we can ignore it, but frankly had I been the Times I would have refused the story. DGG 21:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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Ho Yeow Sun – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Neutral opinions are requested as to whether this Controversy section complies with WP:BLP and, if not, what should be done about it. (See also Talk page; the church in question has blocked itself from archive.org during the last week, disabling one of the links.) Jpatokal 12:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Ho Yeow Sun protected by Visviva based on continued insertion of copyvio text, and edit warring by all parties. Article stubbed and things seem to have calmed down. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC) |
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DeCavalcante crime family – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Appears to accuse a construction foreman of controling a mob family. Unsourced. Here is a search for all of the other crime family artilces we maintain [3] PouponOnToast 14:46, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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Joseph McMillan – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Joseph McMillanJoseph McMillan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) There is an archived discussion here that led to this article's deletion in November of last year. It's been rewritten? The man doesn't want an article and has tried to get it deleted.--dave-- 16:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The material requested by McMillan to be deleted was speedy deleted per request by only editor. The new material may have issues, but not BLPN issues. -- Jreferee (Talk) 05:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Craig T. Enoch – Resolved. – 07:09, 23 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Craig T. Enoch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) This person was a member of the Texas Supreme Court. The article is stub class. The issue is that his son was convicted on child pornography charges. Another editor added this info to the article and it was subsequently deleted. I readded the information with an online newspaper article as a cite and it was again deleted by the same person who removed the first one. The removing editor's reason was that the article wasn't about his son and that his son would require his own article. I disagree because the only things that make his son notable are his child porn conviction, and the fact that he's the son of a former Texas Supreme Court justice. I believe that both of these facts in combination make his son notable enough to be included in Wikipedia. I don't believe that they warrant his own article. If he does warrant his own article, then we would have to mention that he's notable for being the son of Craig T. Enoch. This brings us back to square one. (The article wouldn't be about Craig T. Enoch so he shouldn't be mentioned in the article about his son.) Just for reference purposes, this is the line I had added... "In 2006, his son, Gates Enoch, plead guilty to possession of child pornography and was sentenced to 22 months in federal prison." (with cite) Sperril 23:52, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
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Andrea Yates – Resolved. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia is not a newspaper. The bare fact that someone has been in the news does not in itself imply that they should be the subject of an encyclopedia entry. Where a person is mentioned by name in a Wikipedia article about a larger subject, but remains of essentially low profile themselves, we should generally avoid having an article on them. If reliable sources only cover the person in the context of a particular event, then a separate biography is unlikely to be warranted. Marginal biographies on people with no independent notability can give undue weight to the events in the context of the individual, create redundancy and additional maintenance overhead, and cause problems for our neutral point of view policy. In such cases, a redirect is usually the better option. Cover the event, not the person. I think that all of these type of articles should be deleted or at least totally rewriten and just focus on the event. Sadly many people are murdered in the world everyday, but it has not object to include these facts in an encyclopedia // Francisco Valverde 11:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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William Gaillard – Brief edit war ceased. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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William GaillardA rather minor figure from European Football who has been featured heavily in the British press recently due to some remarks he made about Liverpool FC. A page about him was then created, and has been used to merely re-create the attacks on his character. The article does not adere to Wikipedia's NPOV policy, certain users are reluctant to enter into dispute resolution and prefer instead to instigate edit/revert wars. Edcoomber 11:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Kola Boof – Article deleted. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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The article for this author has recently been deleted, after first being stubbed, based, according to the admins who did first the stubbing and then the deletion, on input from the subject (see here regarding the former). After the stubbing of what was in fact a contentious and inconsistently sourced article (with the majority of the questionable sources posted by more-or-less single-purpose editors and consisting of material from blogs and press-release posting sites that represented the subject's POV), I started the process of creating a better-sourced piece; the result as of the night of June 11 had as its sources the subject's own site, Harper's Magazine, The New York Times, and the site of an expert on Osama bin Laden, with whom Boof claims to have had a sexual relationship[4]. Even so, the brief start at a new article was deleted. What can one do regarding a controversial but unquestionably notable person who evidently objects to any WP article that falls short of hagiography? Robertissimo 17:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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Kit Malthouse – Resolved. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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In his entry, it states that I, Len Cook did not get my contract renewed because of his actions. That is not true, and a defamatory statement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.62.196 (talk • contribs)
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Mark F. "Thor" Hearne – Protected redirect. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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A news article appearing today states:As you might expect after such a news article, the Mark F. "Thor" Hearne Wikipedia article has a variety of unsourced BLP problems as well as POV problems. The article needs some Wiki love by someone with a little time to devote to it. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 17:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Redirect to American Center for Voting Rights is protected. — Athaenara ✉ 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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David Oreck – Resolved. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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At least three (1 2 3) accounts got indefinite blocks, some anonIPs got shorter ones. — Athaenara ✉ 05:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Eugene Martin Ingram – Article deleted, deletion endorsed. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Eugene Martin Ingram→ See also: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 June 20
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WinSoftware – Article deleted. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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WinSoftwareUnreferenced article that makes serious accusations about a software developer. The assertions may very well be true but there are no sources. Videmus Omnia 04:14, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
"WinSoftware Ltd is a company that develops fake security software" is accurate. It makes WinFixer. Fake security software is exactly what it is (see this discussion for example). I do see Jehochman's point that "a software developer" in the corporate sense is not a living person. — Athaenara ✉ 06:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Rogue copy of deleted bio in user space – Copy deleted. – 07:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Rogue copy of deleted bio in user space
A user has a complete June 14 copy of my recently-deleted bio that he inserted in a subdirectory of his user page. It is now indexed in Google. I asked him on his Talk page to delete it. If it's not down soon, I request that someone else delete it on my behalf. As I understand it, WP:BLP applies to user space as well as project space. Nothing else makes sense, since the bots are allowed to crawl in user space. Daniel Brandt 04:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley – Resolved. – 00:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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"I am The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley. Please remove the article about me, pending action in the Court of Session for libel. I have made repeated attempts to prevent or correct these libels, but to no avail. The action will be filed in 14 days. If anyone from Wikipedia wishes to contact me to discuss resolution before the action is filed, I may be contacted at monckton@mail.com. If I am not contacted, the action will be lodged without further notice, and an application will be made for service outside the jurisdiction where necessary. It is likely to attract considerable publicity, and it will serve as a useful warning to those who come across it that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. I shall be applying for an order that all Wikipedia content that in any way references or identifies me should not be permitted to be broadcast on the Internet within the jurisdiction of the UK courts. "I shall repeat what I have told Wikipedia before: the article about me, which is presumably supposed to be a straightforward biography, is repeatedly amended to make libellous comments, particularly in connection with a) my alleged views on the HIV virus; and b) my alleged views on climate change, both of which have been seriously misrepresented. Also, despite my repeated attempts to remove it, a link has been posted to a hostile article about me, but without posting any link to the correction which the newspaper in question was obliged to print the following day. "I have done my best to get this matter resolved by other means, but without any success. Unless I hear from Wikipedia, it will become unlawful for Wikipedia to transmit any material in any way mentioning or identifying me into Scotland, and my US agents will apply for the judgment of the Court of Session to be enforced, with damages and costs, in whatever jurisdiction wikipedia uses. It is not acceptable that I, as the victim of a libel in my own biographical entry, should be prevented from editing or removing the libel, while Wikipedia can continue unmolested to blacken my name."
Resolved – I reformatted the article and gave it one last once over. It might not be 100% BLP problem free, but I believe that the matter has received enough intervention to resolve the dispute as far as this board is concerned. -- Jreferee (Talk) 00:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Premature resolution?Has the lawsuit threat in fact been formally addressed with Monckton (or the person purporting to be him)? If not, then the matter should not be marked as resolved and the page unprotected, as has been done here. In my view there was nothing in the original article that would have prompted BLP concerns but it's clear that Monckton (or his agent) thought differently. The issue at hand is not objective BLP concerns but the lawsuit threat. Raymond Arritt 14:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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Marcus Einfeld – Resolved. – 00:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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This article focuses on the subject's alleged lack of integrity. Most references are to newspaper reports which brought the subjects character into question after a speeding ticket controversy. The subject is a prominent Australian legal figure. Thus the article should contain more information about his career and achievements. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.73.205.72 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I've had a go at trimming down the negative stuff. Please review my work to see whether the ((unbalanced)) tag can be removed. Cheers, CWC 15:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Chris Gore + Philip Zlotorynski – GBone77 inactive since report. – 01:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Chris Gore + Philip Zlotorynski
A user (User:GBone77) threatened User:Roleplayer with legal action, see Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance), because of slander, he claims to be Chris Gore, I gave him a conflict of interest warning, but I don't really know what to do, because he edited a lot of different articles related to him, do you revert the articles, or something like that? Jeffrey.Kleykamp 13:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
No edits from Special:Contributions/GBone77 since this report. — Athaenara ✉ 01:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Marc Dutroux – Inactive. – 01:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Definitely no citations, not to mention that someone tried to do something about it, but ended up replying to themselves on the talk page?! Basically, the 1st paragraph describes the sensitive nature of the whole articel, so I'd rather not repeat the summary. 68.39.174.238 20:27, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
As AvB noted, the article has references which are not yet in inline citation form. The user mentioned in the initial report has not edited the article or posted on its talk page since May 22. — Athaenara ✉ 01:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Anatoly Lebedko – Inactive. – 01:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC) |
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PLEASE NOTE, THAT BIO of Anatoly Lebedko IS HIGLY BIIASED, AS IT DOES NOT COVER MR. LEBEDKO CARIER BEFORE JOINING THE OPPOSITION, WHICH INCLUDED SERVING IN A.LUKASHENKA ADMINISTRATION!!! 213.157.194.144 17:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
A nearly identical message was posted on the article talk page from another IP. The article itself has not been edited since early April 2007. — Athaenara ✉ 23:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Benjamin LaGuer – Inactive. – 16:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Needs some more eyes. Sorely lacking in inline citations. -- Jonel | Speak 02:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Sir James Stronge, 10th Baronet – Resolved. – 23:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Resolved – Article redirected per AfD consensus and contentious BLP material removed. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Quite contentious unsourced claim of a mental or emotional disability; there is no version of the article without the claim except for a one-liner that was quite correctly tagged for speedy at the time. The article is up for AfD, but this claim should be removed from the history, and no version of the article is really salvageable. Carlossuarez46 19:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Michael Barrymore – Resolved. – 16:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Jack Radcliffe – Resolved. – 23:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Michael Nutter – Resolved. – 23:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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George Soros – Inactive; page protected. – 16:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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G.S. is a very controversial guy and draws many bizarre criticisms, may of which are included in the very long article, e.g. a Prime Minister once called him "a moron," conservatives call him a "Communist" and a self described "far left-winger" suggest that he works with ("for" suggested) the CIA, and there are also allegations (unfounded to my reading of the evidence) about nazi collaberation (when he was 13 years old!) that have been brought up in major publications. Currently, Bill O'Reilly has said something about him contolling US media and the Democratic Party. My feeling is that some of this might be included - but only to show that notable figures make bizzare claims about him. I'm withdrawing from editing this article for the time being - because it's just too hard to decide what is fair and what is not. I hope others will keep an eye on on it from a BLP point of view. Smallbones 09:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
What the editors who are against the inclusion of this material need to be reminded of is that this is in a "Criticism" section. It has not been stated as fact in the encyclopedia. Nobody is trying to mislead Wikipedia's readers. What IS being attempted is to report that a major and well known critic, Bill O'Reilly, criticized Soros. In fact, this is not the only instance that he's criticized him. He has done it several times on his program, and has even devoted an entire section of his book to Soros in "Culture Warrior." In fact, the whole premise of the book is based on the alleged manipulation of the media from Soros and others like him. O'Reilly has even gone on Oprah and slammed Soros. So it is indisputable that O'Reilly is the biggest critic of Soros. Yet, after the revert, the name Bill O'Reilly happens to be missing from the "Criticism" section. |3 E |_ |_ 0 VV E |) 22:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
After an apparent threat of a block, I am going to stop editing the article for now. I have been personally attacked and accused of pressing a right-wing agenda, but if you look at Talk:George Soros, the political comments and accustations are certainly not coming from me. My inquiry as to the full meaning of the argument being presented is being ignored so far. There's not much more I can do. There certainly does seem to be a political agenda at work here. It stinks. But I have a clean block log, and this fight is not worth hanging myself out to dry over. I hope that the other patrollers will express their opinion at Talk:George Soros, whether you agree with me or not. I think what is going on is a serious abuse of BLP, and it needs to be dealt with. If the consensus is that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, then I need to know that too. - Crockspot 04:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
OK, well O'Reilly's same criticism is on Media Matters website, word for word. I still don't like the idea of having to go to their site to get O'Reilly's quote. It sets bad precedent, in my opinion, because we say that anything that comes from O'Reilly in the future is unreliable. But if that's what it takes I can certainly do that. |3 E |_ |_ 0 VV E |) 14:48, 18 June 2007 (UTC) Alright. I added it back in using Media Matters's site as a source. Thanks, Smallbones, for your knowledge of policy and your suggestion. |3 E |_ |_ 0 VV E |) 15:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I object to using Media Matters to source O'Reilly's comments as well. See this diff of discussion in another article about how MM and other blogs slightly twist their quoting of obscure, hard-to-locate articles in order to smear someone like Fred Thompson. When then can't find anything else to smear him with, they put something ambiguous out there to intentionally give the wrong impression. This tactic, which was backed up by another blog, gave several Wiki editors the impression that they were adding a sourced quote of Thompson's to that article. It was not until another editor ponied up three dollars to purchase the article before it was clear that ne never uttered those words. - Crockspot 17:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Clay Aiken – Resolved. – 16:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Clay AikenIn the article for singer Clay Aiken I have entered (and cited) information regarding several controversies he was indirectly involved with. One topic was Rosie O'Donnell's tirade against Kelly Ripa when Clay tried to cover her mouth. Ripa as everyone knows remove his hand and O' Donnell labeled this homophobic (in reference to the lingering question on his unpublicized sexuality). [8] There are several other controversies that are not listed in this article, and it is apparent that his die-hard fans called Claymates are deleting this information, which is censorship. User:Triage stated his/her reasons for deletion as having to deal with " "rv to version agreed on due to Bio of Living Persons concerns," but this information has been well publicized and should be included in this article. I see it as a Conflict of Interest that his fans are committing acts on censorship to protect him, and to me that is simply wrong. The information I've entered does not slander nor reveal personal information that can be used by someone to harm him. Simply it should be included in the article as the article already contains citations mentioning the incident, but simply no text relating to the incident. Is there anyway someone can help here? --XLR8TION 15:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom murder – Inactive. – 16:47, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Mark Copani – Inactive. – 23:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Margita Bangová – Article deleted. – 16:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Stacy Keibler – Resolved. – 23:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Resolved – No BLPN issues raised; I read the article and no BLP issue stood out. -- Jreferee (Talk) 04:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Max Keiser – Deleted – 02:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC) |
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→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Keiser
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Fred Thompson – Resolved. – 16:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Murder of James Bulger – Inactive. – 23:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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Very few inline citations, none of which use ref templates. Numerous references to the problems the parents have had/caused. Potentially harmful to these parents and several other people named in the article. violet/riga (t) 11:19, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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Chris Russo – Inactive. – 16:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC) |
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I'm thinking of removing the "tirades" and "Russo-isms" sections of this article as being unreferenced and potentially inappropriate per BLP. His tirades or foul ups while speaking can be considered negative material against him. The article seems to be built by a lot of IP editors so it'd be hard to create a discussion at the talk page about this, so I've brought it here for consideration. Thanks, 17:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
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